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Originally posted by tleo205:
"Karen" is really the one who needed her ass kicked. By the guy she threw coffee on and then later by her boyfriend for getting his ass kicked because of her

Glad he had a camera because those two would have lied out their asses that the other two started something.

I agree, she needed to have her ass handed to her, and they need to buy him a new t-shirt.

I suggest a vintage Trump shirt from the Iron Horse

I wonder what ever happened to Dave???

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Originally posted by tleo205:
"Karen" is really the one who needed her ass kicked. By the guy she threw coffee on and then later by her boyfriend for getting his ass kicked because of her

Karen needed both of her arms and legs broken

an ass kicking is insufficient and not nearly painful enough

we need examples out there

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Originally posted by parabellum:
...and all of this- all of it- was unnecessary.

I say in all seriousness- lots of people need to hang.

Hemp. Gallows. Thirteen steps. Short rope. Long drop.

Goddamn the people in charge.

Yes it is and yes they do. The first graph I posted drives the lies and unnecessary damages done home - or at least it should.

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Me too. I went back to my normal life back in early April.

I haven't bought into the crap since Day 1 and I'm pushing back

there are stores that say you must have a mask to enter - I ignore it and haven't been stopped.

went to the dentist yesterday and 'had' to wear a mask. They asked me a series of questions and asked my age - was told that I was in the high risk group. took my temp, was normal. Took my mask off. I asked the lady telling me I was high risk how long she had been practicing medicine without a license and the receptionist gave me a sideways look and I unloaded on them about the bullshit. They actually agreed and are going through the motions.

I'm tired of the shit. I was at a bar last night and everyone had a mask. I asked how they drank...

I am not at all embarrassed to walk into a store without a mask. Anyone who gives me grief will get an earful of 4 letter words.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I haven't bought into the crap since Day 1 and I'm pushing back

there are stores that say you must have a mask to enter - I ignore it and haven't been stopped.

went to the dentist yesterday and 'had' to wear a mask. They asked me a series of questions and asked my age - was told that I was in the high risk group. took my temp, was normal. Took my mask off. I asked the lady telling me I was high risk how long she had been practicing medicine without a license and the receptionist gave me a sideways look and I unloaded on them about the bullshit. They actually agreed and are going through the motions.

I'm tired of the shit. I was at a bar last night and everyone had a mask. I asked how they drank...

I am not at all embarrassed to walk into a store without a mask. Anyone who gives me grief will get an earful of 4 letter words.

If anyone says something to me about it, I tell them I already had it and can’t get it again.....their faces are priceless

Mrs. Mike does cut here eyes at me though.

Overheard today at the local WaWa near my house. A Karen type opts to bust the balls of some guy who was not wearing a mask and looked like he worked as a mason given the looks of his hands and clothes. What I overheard from said mason caused a smile to cross my face. He looked down at this mask covered moron and told her..."Trust me lady, the words falling out of your mouth right now are far more dangerous to your health than any virus I might have. Go away." Loved it!

We're being scammed. Or at least some of us are. The masks are doing nothing...nothing good anyway.

Horowitz: Our government openly warned against universal masking during wildfires — It should apply to virus too

Daniel Horowitz · August 4, 2020  

If you want to ascertain the science behind a given policy, look at the literature on the issue before it became political and a tool for social control. Thus, if one were to do that regarding the efficacy of masks, the side effects of long-term wearing, and the advice on children wearing them, he’d discover that the research was all on one side … until it became political.

One common public health challenge that might lead people to cover their faces is annual wildfire season in affected areas. For those who don’t live near forests, particularly out west, this might sound like a foreign concept, but for millions of Americans, dealing with the contaminated air from wildfires is a common occurrence. What’s also particularly helpful about researching forest fires is that the issue has not been politicized, at least not yet. So, what have governmental agencies said about covering one’s face in areas saturated with smoke from seasonal wildfires?

The California Department of Public Health has a section on mask wearing in its Q&A page for protecting against smoke inhalation from wildfires. In response to the question, “Should I wear a mask during a wildfire, even if it’s not really smoky where I am?” the California government could not be any clearer:

“Surgical masks, dust masks, bandanas or other face coverings do not offer protection from particle pollution. Inexpensive paper “comfort” or “dust” masks commonly found at hardware stores are designed to trap large particles and do not provide enough protection for your lungs.”

In other words, everyone understood until recently that masks are for visible contamination or perhaps larger bacteria, but not for microscopic particles, such as smoke particles or viruses. At least 90% of smoke particles are less than 1 micron (1,000 nanometers), which is 1/100th the size of the width of a human hair.

SARS-CoV-2 particles are even smaller, between 60-140 nanometers, which is approximately 1/10th the size of the smoke particles for which masks don’t help. There is no equivocation in this statement – the same way the CDC, as late as May 2020, was certain that masks don’t help against virus particles

To the contrary, the California Department of Health, which now obsesses about the use of masks, warned about the inherent harm in wearing masks, especially outdoors:

“Mask use may give the wearer a false sense of security, which might encourage too much physical activity and time spent outdoors. Also, wearing a mask may actually be harmful to some people with heart or lung disease because it can make the lungs work harder to breathe.”

How come nobody is raising any concern about universal masking given the obvious observation that covering one’s face makes the lungs work harder?

Also, their point about a false sense of security during wildfires applies to the virus as well. While the media and politicians are dramatically overstating the risk of the virus, it certainly is potentially deadly for those who are immunocompromised. I have seen a lot of people I know go indoors with many people around thinking that a mask will protect them. This is one area where the mask cult is actually being too lenient by creating a mystical placebo out of masks.

The CA Department of Health does note that NIOSH N95 or P100 masks, “when worn correctly, have been shown to filter particles and improve the quality of the air being inhaled.” In other words, a form-fitted N95 can possibly make a dent in the amount of inhalation of contaminated micro particles (although virus particles are 10 times smaller). However, they state clearly that “Children should not wear these masks – they do not fit properly and can impede breathing.”

But if this is a problem for children, it should be a problem for adults too. As the Sacramento County Department of Health Services  states, “N95 respirator can make it more difficult for the wearer to breathe due to carbon dioxide buildup, which reduces the intake of oxygen, increased breathing rates, and heart rates.”

In the EPA’s guidance on protecting against smoke inhalation from wildfires, they advise people to stay home, but if they go out, they recommend “using a tightfitting N95 or P100 respirator.” There is no mention of the absurdity of wearing another type of mask altogether.

The EPA also warns about the side effects. They observe that “wearing a respirator can make it harder to breathe and that “wearing a respirator, especially if it’s hot or you are physically active, can increase the risk of heat-related illness.” And, of course, they warn against children wearing them.

Again, if this is the known side effect of N95s, one has to wonder if there is at least some harm with oxygen loss with surgical masks when worn for entire school days – putting aside the fact that they do not filter out virus particles. Who is to say people will not suffer the worst of both worlds – some degree of carbon dioxide poisoning while failing to filter out the virus as a jail cell would fail to contain a fly? This is especially true when these masks are worn all day in excessive heat.

What is self-evident from reading the government literature on masks before the issue became political is that they were extremely empathic and consistent about the fact that random masks do not filter out microbiology.

“Surgical masks and one-strap dust masks will not protect your lungs,” wrote the EPA with regards to ash disposal workers. “They are not designed to seal tightly to the face.”

The only thing that was thought to help was an N95, but it was clear it had to be form-fitting, one had to be clean shaven while wearing it, and they were designed to be worn only for short periods of time because of the side effects.

The Montana Department of Health was just as emphatic about the inability of surgical masks to filter out microbiology and the risk of side effects with more form-fitted ones:

Surgical masks or dust masks commonly found at hardware stores trap large particles. These masks will not protect your lungs from smoke. An “N95” mask, properly worn, will offer some protection. If you decide to keep a mask on hand, see the Respirator Fact Sheet provided by CDC’s National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. Filtering face-piece respirators and masks can make the work of breathing more difficult and can lead to increased breathing rates and heart rates. They can also contribute to heat stress. Because of this, respirator use by those with heart and respiratory diseases should only be done under a doctor’s supervision. A wet towel or bandana is not recommended either. While they may stop large particles, fine ones can still get into the lungs.

We already see how masks don’t work even in the countries and settings with 100% compliance.  It makes sense because a 2019 study of 2,862 randomized participants published in JAMA found that even N95 masks don’t work against influenza, which is much smaller than smoke particles.  “Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza,” concluded the study by Radonovich, L.J. et al. in 2019.

Now it will be interesting to watch the side effects. Until then, we will be told to shut up and make our lungs work harder contrary to unrefuted research by our government before this became a political tool of social control.

https://www.conservativereview...ldfires-apply-virus/

And...

OP-ED AUGUST 05, 2020
Horowitz: Philippines had the harshest lockdown and most mask wearing. It didn’t work.
Despite all its efforts, coronavirus cases are surging

DANIEL HOROWITZ

Nowhere is the circuitous insanity and national masochism of lockdown policies more evident than in the Philippines. This nation of over 100 million holds the distinction of having undergone the longest and most severe lockdown. They also have the highest rate of mask wearing in the world, according to a recent survey. In other words, they've done everything the propagators of corona panic porn every dreamt of. Yet…

Their answer? A new lockdown – all the while missing the irony that the first series of totalitarian mandates didn't work. Now they have a weakened and destitute population to face the virus, while countries like Sweden achieved de facto herd immunity from a position of strength.

Just how insane was the lockdown in the Philippines? Beginning as early as March 15, under the direction of President Rodrigo Duterte, anyone under 21 or over 60 was not allowed out of his home, only one family member could go out for food and medicine, and there was an across-the-board curfew from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. President Duterte threatened to have violators shot.

Tens of thousands of people in America likely died as a result of the lockdown – could you imagine how many hundreds of thousands died from lack of food and medical care in a poor country from such a severe policy of house arrest? This country has been suffering from a hunger crisis for years. The cruel irony is that only 2,000 people have died of COVID-19 in the country of 100 million. Like most Asian countries, they probably have a high degree of cross-immunity from coronavirus colds.

Aside from the insane lockdown, the Philippines holds the distinction of having the highest degree of mask compliance. After all, people don't want to get shot.



So, after destroying their country, one would think they at least “got rid" of the virus, right?

Wrong! The virus does what it does and was always bound to come to southern latitude countries later, as we are seeing in places like Israel and Hawaii. The national lockdown was in place until June 1 and many local places still had lockdowns until July. Now, the corrupt and evil government has a brilliant idea: a new lockdown.

Hey, how about they just shoot everyone dead and then they don't have to worry about the virus? That seems to sum up the strategy they have pursued. It's like curing a migraine by chopping off someone's head but still finding some way to not get rid of the pain. Manilla and four surrounding provinces are under full house arrest for two weeks.

In a cruel irony, the country is now in such a weakened state, they will have an attenuated immune system and a medical system flooded with other ailments to now contend with the virus. How prescient was the warning from D.A. Henderson, the former dean of Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, who is widely credited with helping to eradicate smallpox, when he noted how continuing daily lives for most people as normal is the best way to endure through an epidemic.

“Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted," wrote Henderson in a paper co-authored by other Hopkins researchers in 2006.

On Tuesday, AP wrote an op-ed dressed up as a news story asserting wrongly that “many Americans have resisted wearing masks and social distancing," which resulted in more viral spread.

“Public health experts say the problem has been compounded by confusing and inconsistent guidance from politicians and a patchwork quilt of approaches to containing the scourge by county, state and federal governments," added AP.

Well, maybe they ought to take a look at the Philippines. There was no confusion or inconsistency there and certainly no lack of obedience. Just pure tyranny. When will we finally learn that when you trade liberty for security, you achieve neither?

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed...earing-it-didnt-work

^^^^^
Great read, thanks for sharing!

I am really concerned about the Pandemic.
In Australia, it started in Victoria.
And rapidly spread to other states.

The Pandemic I refer to?

The Pandemic ... of Stupid.

Common sense, reason, and what's best for all, is being ignored.

Border jumpers, anti-maskers, sovereign citizens, the selfish, the complacent.


Bondi Beach, during the first stage of restrictions (source: AAP)

Just an opinion mind you.

Off my soap box, back to the lair.

--chris

Boy toy got off with only a bloody nose. Don't throw coffee on people and try to walk away. Both of them should've gotten stomped. Talk shit like a man and you'll get beat up like a man, that's equal opportunity.

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Originally posted by cjevans:
Border jumpers, anti-maskers, sovereign citizens, the selfish, the complacent.

I'm sure I'm in there somewhere.

There's something I've addressed previously in this thread, but I feel the need to return to it. A couple of days ago, I drove past the entrance to a hospital. A coloful cardboard sign has been posted in front of the concrete pillar which display the hospital name.

"HEROES WORK HERE" the sign declares.

Really? Since when? You work in a hospital. Hospitals are buildings which by definition are places to tend to the sick and the infirmed. People may appear at the front door or the ER entrance of these buildings with any disease, affliction or injury imaginable. It has always been this way. So, why is it now that the people who work in these facilities are suddenly "heroes"? Because of this blown-all-the-fuck-out-of-proportion "pandemic"? They weren't heroes before, but they are now, because of this virus? Really?

Tell me- when you walk through the door of, say, Wal-Mart or your local grocery store, or a convenience store, or wherever people may congregate, do they stop you at the door, take your temperature, check you for any symptoms of infection, then whisk you off to sequestration and isolation, to be tended to by people in suits that look like something out of The Andromeda Strain? No? Doesn't happen, huh? Well, that's what they do if you request admittance to a hospital and they suspect you've got da 'rona. Yeah, that just shouts "hero".

Does this mean that the poor schlubs pulling down 12.50 an hour at a grocery store, with nothing to protect them but a cloth mask, are even more heroic? Well, where's their Goddamned sign? Huh? Where's their sign that says "REALLY Heroic People Work Here"?

Hospital PR department: "All of these people are heroes."

Hospital administrators: "All of you hospital workers are heroes."

Hospital managers: "All of the people who report to me are heroes."

Hospital workers: "We're all heroes."

Me: "Cut the shit."

Just keep diluting the meaning of the word. Keep thinking that having a job makes you a hero. When you do this, make sure you forget entirely about police officers who face the prospect of being murdered each day they go to work (and forget about the current heightened danger of this in today's sickening anti-police climate).
Forget about the firefighters who risk the possibility of falling through the floor of a burning building and burning to death while trapped in rubble.
Forget about American special armed forces personnel who get dropped into enemy territory with only what they can carry and who face the possibility of being captured and tortured to death.
Forget about the chopper pilot hovering sixty feet from the face of a vertical cliff trying to maneuver rescue personnel (whom you should also forget) into position to rescue your metrosexual I-slipped-while-taking-my-hourly-Instagram-selfie ass.

I'm sick of it. I'm sick of all the bullshit. In case of these heroic hospital workers didn't notice, the unemploymeent rate in this nation is something like eleven percent. Don't forget to forget about the man with six kids and a thirty year fixed mortgage who lost his job because of the pants-pissing panic of our government "leaders".

Just freaking stop it

The problem for the hysteria mongers is that it isn't sustainable...in retrospect, even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.

The 7-day average is 10 deaths per day in the entire State of Missouri. I hate to sound crass, every life matters, but we can live with that. It's not a huge number.
What we [particularly Sam Page in St. Louis County] are doing to our economy, our mental health, our kids... is far worse than this disease.

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Originally posted by bdylan:
...even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.

As I've pointed out, the truth always comes out. It's only a matter of how long it takes to reveal itself or be revealed.

Since this ridiculous bullshit affects essentially everyone on the planet, I predict this happening sooner rather thn later.

I have yet to put on a mask for even one second since this started. Being the cynic I am I was suspicious of the manner this virus was portrayed from the beginning. Enough of the truth has already been revealed to prove my early suspicions were correct.

Even the most committed to the science from the start and the most compliant must be having some suspicions by now.

All you have to do is ask yourself why the streets are not being cleared of these large gathering of protestors in the name of the Covid.
Forget the right to assemble the covid is going to kill everyone right?
I pose that question to everyone who brings up the conversation with me. No one seems to have a answer.

if this were a real pandemic, then why are we storing bodied in refrigerated trailers...shouldn't they go from autopsy straight to the kiln for cremation?

why are we stockpiling bodies?

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
I wonder what ever happened to Dave???

Dave's not here, man.