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Well, here I am last week at over 10,000 feet elevation deep in the High Uinta Mountains. Look just over my shoulder. He wasn't the only one I saw up there wearing a face diaper either. It really makes you wonder if these people will ever come back down to reality.


I'm constantly amazed at just how stupid so many can be!
 
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Hey, don't forget, boys and girls- trust the stats and trust the testing! Razz

Ohio gov tests negative for COVID hours after testing positive. Wha' happened??


No, really, the numbers are accurate and the testing is accurate!! Let every decision you make pivot on this bullshit err the data. Razz
 
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DeSoto Co. coroner says coronavirus death numbers in Mississippi may be misleading

DESOTO CO., Miss. (WLBT) - A coroner’s Facebook post has garnered attention after he said just because someone may be positive for the coronavirus at the time of their death does not necessarily mean COVID was their primary cause of death.

DeSoto County coroner and medical examiner Josh Pounders said that, in his experience, the individuals who have passed away while also testing positive for COVID-19 have had major medical problems prior to contracting the virus and that most of the deaths have been from those over the age of 75.

According to the MSDH, 62% of coronavirus-related deaths in the state are those over the age of 70.

“Many of these covid deaths are of people who were on hospice care with a terminal diagnoses,” Pounders wrote. “Some of these deaths the person was [positive] for covid but had no symptoms of covid prior to death but died of other medical problems.”
He then claimed that the Department of Health demands that these deaths be classified as a COVID death without reporting that many of these individuals were terminal prior to testing positive for the virus.

In his opinion, this has lead to “unnecessary fear” in the public and has caused stress to those across the country and the world.

Pounders said that because of this fear, he has seen a drastic increase in cardio/pulmonary death which he attributes to two things: stress due to the pandemic and the concern of leaving the home due to false reporting by politicians.

“They see what the news reporter who has no knowledge of what he is reporting broadcast to the world,” Pounders said. “They become scared to leave home and go to the hospitals for fear of a virus when they need medical care for a more serious condition and ultimately have a cardiac arrest at home.”

To conclude his post, which has been shared more than two-thousand times, Pounders stated that any loss of life is a tragedy and that he sympathizes with the family of any individual who has succumbed to the virus.

However, he believes “that public fear and the government reporting only partial information is misleading and should not be."

Pounders said the virus is real and that the public should protect the elderly and those who are frail but that life for the average, healthy majority must go on “so that chaos in our community and across the country does not escalate and ultimately cause more deaths than any virus ever would.”

To date, DeSoto County has seen 3,574 cases of coronavirus and has reported 30 deaths.

LINK:https://www.wlox.com/2020/08/07/desoto-co-coroner-says-coronavirus-death-numbers-mississippi-may-be-misleading/
 
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^^^^^^^^

That's a public health bushfire.

The health ... and political infection agenda ... rages out of control.

Trust but verify.



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DeSoto Co. coroner says coronavirus death numbers in Mississippi may be misleading

The good doctor had better be prepared for the "powers" to begin their personal attacks and attempts to destroy him for his failure to keep the party line.
I wish there were more honest doctors and officials like this to come forward.
 
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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...us-do-not-buy-a-car/

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio addressed constituents’ concerns about public transit during the coronavirus pandemic on Thursday — by telling them not to buy a car.

Amid the novel coronavirus pandemic, many New Yorkers are concerned about the dangers of being wedged into a vehicle in close proximity with strangers. Mayor Bill de Blasio was seemingly dismissive of the idea, focusing his rhetoric on the city’s control of the pandemic and rejection of “the past.”

“My advice to New Yorkers is: ‘Do not buy a car,’” de Blasio said. “Cars are the past. The future is going to be mass transit.”

The mayor further asserted he would “never own a car again.”

It is important to note that the subway systems account for roughly 40% of the Big Apple’s revenue
 
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Hey, don't forget, boys and girls- trust the stats and trust the testing! Razz

No, really, the numbers are accurate and the testing is accurate!! Let every decision you make pivot on this bullshit err the data. Razz



Michigan added to the way that deaths are recorded. Yesterday they added if you die within 30 days of a positive test and your death certificate says natural caused you died of Covid. Here is the link.to the state site.Click on deaths and read the red banner. https://www.michigan.gov/coron...163_98173---,00.html



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Hey Alan, what lake were you at?


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Hey Alan, what lake were you at?


That particular picture was at Mirror Lake, though we also hiked up to Ruth Lake that week as well (perfect little hike for a four year old). This was during the week so much less people around.


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Took a motorcycle ride for breakfast this am, hit the Mason Jar in Donna Vista FL, population 39, yeeee hawww!

Not a mask in the place, no harassment, no Ken/Karens, it's in Lake County, rode over to the HD dealer, not a lot of folks there but again, no masks anywhere there....

Folks in Mt Dora walking around without them out on boats without the mask.

It was like going back in time!
 
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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...-homeless-in-hotels/

The California Department of Housing and Community Development is using $100 million of the $550 million it got from the federal Coronavirus Relief Fund to put homeless people in hotel rooms or other facilities in San Francisco as a way to allegedly curb the spread of the disease.

The state’s Homekey program announced the millions of taxpayer dollars available as grants to pay for the housing and that the deadline to apply is December 30.
 
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Further to sdy's post on New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio "don't buy a car", the future is mass transit ... says the Mayor who is chauffeured ...


(Photo: Erik Pendzich/Shutterstock)

Not sure if this the Mayor outside Gracie Mansion or the Park Slope YMCA.

Mind you, I can see that a mini van is leaning towards mass transit.

Indeed.



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Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy. It tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken
 
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Big Pharma's 'Narrative' Is Failing

So now we don’t have to listen to what those doctors said in front of the US Supreme Court, because it turns out that one of them has some whacky beliefs about sex with demons causing reproductive disorders. What a relief.

I’m not going to pretend that the things Dr. Stella Immanuel has said don’t sound just a little crazy to me. They do.



But I’ve been observing this game long enough to have a pretty good idea of how this works:

Someone says something that contradicts the dominant narrative (in this case, the narrative about medical science), and the machine that supports that narrative goes into overdrive to discredit them, with whatever information they can dig up–as long as it doesn’t involve discussing the actual substance of what the person has said.

I understand that for some people, maybe even for a great many, that is the end of the conversation.

So for everyone who is satisfied with the “fringe doctors promoting hydroxychloroquine also believe demon sex causes fybroids” narrative–please, stop here. Your ride is over, and you may go on believing that this group of doctors and other professionals has been thoroughly discredited by these statements.

For everyone else, if you are at all interested in why such a coordinated effort has been launched to silence and discredit this group, why - even before the sex demon stuff was uncovered - videos of the group’s press conference were quickly yanked from YouTube, and why their own website was taken down without warning by its host, SquareSpace, (their new website can now be found here) then please keep reading.

WHAT THE AMERICA’S FRONTLINE DOCTORS GROUP SAID:

What follows is a brief summary of the key points made by the group America’s Frontline Doctors at their press conference last week. I will not comment on the validity of their claims, however founder Dr. Simone Gold has provided support for much of what the group said, in a white paper that can be found here.
1. They believe that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for Covid-19.

This is the claim made by several of the speakers, including Dr. Immanuel, based on their own clinical experience, as well as on multiple published studies. Many of those studies are listed here, and here.
2. State licensing boards are using their power to forcibly prevent people from having access to this drug.

According to Dr. Gold, many states have empowered their pharmacists to not honor prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine to be used in treating Covid-19. This, she says, is unprecedented:

“It has never happened that a state has threatened a doctor for prescribing a universally accepted safe generic cheap drug off-label.”

Meanwhile, says Gold, the drug is available over the counter in many other countries, including Iran and Indonesia, where it can be found “in the vitamin section”.

3. There is a coordinated campaign to discredit and suppress information about the drug hydroxychloroquine as a possible treatment for Covid-19:

“If it seems like there is an orchestrated attack going on against hydroxychloroquine,” said Dr. James Todaro, “it’s because there is.”

Dr. Todaro is speaking from experience. He was the co-author of a March 13 white paper arguing for the use of hydroxychloroquine against Covid-19. The paper was made public on Google Docs, received a lot of attention, and was then removed–without warning–by Google. (It has since been put back up.)
4. The World Health Organization halted its trials of hydroxychloroquine based on a blatantly fraudulent study that relied on data that it appears never even existed.

Bear in mind that this is the authority upon which YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki has said she bases her company’s policy on “misinformation”.

The WHO later resumed trials after independent investigators discovered the problems and the study’s authors retracted it.
5. We should be able to have a free and open discussion about this.

Dr. Dr. Joseph Lapado from UCLA, sums it up:

“We’ve been using (hydroxychloroquine) for a long time. But all of a sudden it’s been escalated to this area of looking like some poisonous drug. That just doesn’t make sense… At the very least, we can live in a world where there are differences of opinion about the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, but still allow more data to come, still allow physicians who feel they have expertise with it to use that medication, and still, you know, talk and learn and get better at helping people with Covid-19.”

WHY THE ALL-OUT MEDIA ASSAULT ON THE FRONTLINE DOCTORS?:

The influence that the pharmaceutical industry wields over media outlets is no secret. As of 2018, an estimated 70% of all news advertising in the US came from pharmaceutical companies. I have written elsewhere about how “reporting” on medical issues can be difficult to distinguish from outright marketing for drug companies.

Social-media platforms are not immune to this influence, whether it comes via advertising dollars; “partnerships” such as that between the CDC Foundation and MailChimp (which like many other platforms, has an explicit policy of censoring content about vaccines that does not align with the positions of the CDC and the WHO); direct investment, such as that of Google’s parent company Alphabet; or indeed at the behest of politicians such as Congressman Adam Schiff, who last year wrote to the CEOs of Amazon, Facebook and Google, requesting that those companies censor information and products that did not conform to the officially sanctioned position on vaccines. All three complied.

So it should come as small surprise that both Google and YouTube have now taken to removing content supportive of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that is no longer covered by patent, and can be made and sold by any generic producer, for a fraction of the price that Gilead, for example, might charge for its still-patented Remdesivir.

Twitter and Facebook have likewise removed posts about the drug, most notably–and with no visible sense of irony–removing posts of the video in which the Frontline Doctors speak out about widespread media censorship of the topic. (You can now see those videos on Bitchute.)

One need not have an opinion on the merits of the drug hydroxychloroquine in order to recognize that something very odd is happening here. Something that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with free and open inquiry or honest scientific discourse.

Many argue that the politicization of this drug is founded in a desire to unseat President Trump, that the opposition to it is primarily because it was endorsed by Trump, and if it is deemed to be a failure (or even better, dangerous to patients) it will be a powerful strike against the president. That may well be part of what has motivated this. But there is another motivation, having to do with the desire to push a more expensive medication onto the market, and to push a new vaccine on the world’s population.

More broadly, it has to do with the narrative that those in the business of selling drugs demand we believe: that we are all in desperate need of their products (but only the ones still under patent) if we are to be healthy–or indeed, if we are to survive at all.

If it turns out that this “new” virus is easily treatable, with hydroxychloroquine or anything else, then the industry’s dreams go up in smoke. If hydroxychloroquine turns out to be a safe and effective way of treating Covid-19 (as multiple studies and the experience in many other countries outside of the US indicate it may be) then there is much less reason for anyone to receive a vaccine for it, let alone the entire world’s population. Likewise, there is no pressing need to develop a new, more expensive treatment.

But even more than that: If it turns out that hydroxychloroquine is after all a safe and effective treatment for Covid-19, then this whole episode - the silencing of dissenting voices, the “fact-checking” on social media, the campaigns against “misinformation” - will be revealed in plain sight, for what it has always been: Nothing more than a well-funded marketing campaign and damage-control effort on behalf of the industry that wants you to believe that you need to use its expensive products in order to go on living.

So when a group of doctors took to the steps of the US Supreme Court and told the world how they were having success using a cheap anti-malarial that had been in use for 65 years to treat the most deadly contagion of our generation, it was a massive blow to the narrative upon which the pharmaceutical purveyors’ success depends. And over the next few days, as viewers engaged in a race with the censors, quickly downloading videos before they were removed, to post them on other platforms… it became clear that the censors and the gatekeepers had lost control of the conversation.

This is not only about hydroxychloroquine. Every time media outlets or social-media platforms engage in outright censorship of content, in a way that happens to benefit pharmaceutical companies, both parties lose just a little more credibility. The actions we are witnessing now are not the actions of an industry confident in the value of what it provides to the world. They are the actions of a desperate, threatened creature. They are the actions of an entity that is not strengthened by the truth, but weakened by it. That is what these (increasingly obvious) acts of censorship tell us. What we are witnessing are the pangs of a lumbering, wounded, behemoth.

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...as-narrative-failing



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No shit.....

I used this example today when my ENT doc canceled my procedure tomorrow due to a positive China Virus test. I states the exact thing below and wanted to take a retests and he said he couldn't. Even if the test I failed was a 'false positive' he has to cancel the procedure and report it to the state.

Then he asks if I have any symptoms to which I say no, I feel fine.....

Now I'm a leper as I have to report the result to friends and family I have been around to make sure they are okay. Also, need to take another Rona test in two weeks before I jump on a plane to go visit my dying father in Florida. If that one comes back positive then would likely have to cancel that trip too...

My niece has been staying with us for the week took a rapid test which came back negative. My wife went and got the nasal swab done so she should know those results in a day or two.

If I did catch The Rona, no idea where. I've been pretty isolated except for going to the grocery store a couple times and then the indoor shooting range two Sundays ago.

One more tidbit. A friend of my SIL said she knows 4 people that registered to get the Rona test but did not get the actual test and days later received a letter saying that their Rona test came back positive.

Nucking Futz...

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Removed video of Ohio Governor testing negative after testing positive for The Rona

No, really, the numbers are accurate and the testing is accurate!! Let every decision you make pivot on this bullshit err the data. Razz




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OK what test did you have for Covid? I would hope that you selected a competent ENT and as a result got an accurate test. If this is the case you are in the lucky 20 percent who are asymptomatic. I hope they are doing contact tracing. You should consider yourself most fortunate. If you doubt the test go someplace else and get a test.
 
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Unfortunately, it's almost impossible for a false positive to occur. A false negative is far more likely and does happen to some degree.

If in doubt, you could wait a couple weeks and get the blood antibody test. (I just got mine, and it was negative.)



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Unfortunately, it's almost impossible for a false positive to occur.
And why is that, Dr. Kildaire?
 
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OK what test did you have for Covid?
I got the one where they stick a 16" swab in each nostril and makes you yell like Bruce Lee about to kick half of Taiwan's ass.


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