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I wish long life to those in authority who treat people this way. I do. I want them to live a long, long time. I want them to live well past the point of realizing how horribly they behaved and how they were merely political tools.

I want them to live with that realization for a long, long time. I want them to randomly encounter throughout the remainder of their life these videos of them abusing people for horrible, false reasons. I hope they can never forget, no matter how hard they may try. I hope all of this weighs on them like a great granite mountain they can never get out from under.
 
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There is a lot of talk about people testing positive and assuming they are asymptomatic. I know two people that felt great, had to get tested for travel, and tested positive. They took a follow-up test a few days later and tested negative.

I do not believe many of the tests being administered are accurate, or are conducted properly, thus creating bogus results and inflating numbers for the fall narrative,.
 
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People want people to not be prosecuted for crimes like smoking and selling illegal drugs, but those same people want folks who don't wear a mask thrown to the ground and put in jail...system error, does not compute.

As an aside, my mom (70 years old) has been sick since Saturday. She got tested and just got her results back today; she is positive with COVID. My dad is 72 and has respiratory issues. While my mom hasn't been on her feet much, she's hanging in there and actually sounded better this morning when I talked to her. My dad is her primary care giver and not freaking out. He's being smart and they are isolating best they can.

My parents are not special or rare. Two folks in their 70's handling it smartly and getting through it on their own with no medical care required. The media would have you believe they would have been dead days ago.
 
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In case you were wondering why hospitals were reporting every person who walked thru the door as positive for Covid...Here are $822 million reasons why HCA did it. When you multiply that by every other hospital in the country you begin to see why we have so many bogus 'positives'.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/b...5afEhCU#22b98360593c

Hospital Giant HCA Makes $822 Million Profit Off CARES Act Stimulus Money

The large hospital operator HCA Healthcare reported improving profits thanks largely to government stimulus income from the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, known as CARES.

HCA, one of the nation’s biggest hospital operators, said it is also seeing an increasing demand for elective surgeries that were cancelled or postponed as inpatient facilities across the country freed up space for patients infected with the Coronavirus strain Covid-19.

But HCA’s biggest profit driver and boost to surviving the pandemic and the influx of Covid-19 patients in the second quarter came from the federal government. In HCA’s second quarter, the government stimulus passed by Congress and signed into law by President Donald Trump turned into a windfall as of the end of the second quarter.

The price of HCA shares soared more than 12% or $13 a share to more than $122 a share in Wednesday’s mid-morning trading on the New York Stock Exchange following the company’s release of its quarterly financial report.

“The Company recognized $822 million ($590 million net of tax), or $1.73 per diluted share, in government stimulus income during the second quarter of 2020 related to general distribution funds received from the provider relief fund established by the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (“CARES”) Act,” HCA said in its earnings statement Wednesday morning.

The CARES Act was designed to provide relief to providers of medical care who gain reimbursement even if patients have no health insurance coverage. Congress said the money can be used for costs related to treating Covid-19 patients or providers can use it to reimburse for lost revenue related to the pandemic.


Because HCA is investor-owned and publicly-traded, it has to disclose its financials quarterly. Most hospitals are tax-exempt and considered nonprofit and therefore don’t regularly disclose their financials as regularly or in a predictable and timely fashion.

In HCA’s case, second-quarter revenue declined to nearly $11.1 billion from $12.6 billion in the second quarter of last year, net profits jumped to nearly $1.1 billion, or $3.16 per share, surprising Wall Street analysts who follow the company.

During the quarter, HCA said so-called “same facility admissions” fell nearly 13% while same facility “equivalent admissions” tumbled 20% in the second quarter of 2020, compared to the prior year period.

“Patient volumes across most service lines were significantly impacted in April due to state and local policies implemented to contain the spread of Covid-19 and preserve personal protective equipment,” HCA said in its earnings report. “Patient volumes gradually improved in May and June as states began to re-open and allow for non-emergent procedures.”

Looking ahead, HCA Chief Executive Officer Sam Hazen said he couldn’t predict how the company would perform as hot spots in markets arise where hospitals see an influx of Covid-19 patients. HCA has several hospitals in Texas and Florida where states have had difficulty controlling the spread of the virus.

In April, HCA announced it was putting off capital projects, suspending its dividend and share repurchase program and pulling its 2020 financial forecast as the Covid-19 pandemic began to hit its operations.



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Posts: 29408 | Location: In the red hinterlands of Deep Blue VA | Registered: June 29, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I do not believe many of the tests being administered are accurate,


In Denver, there are plenty of places to get tested - hospitals and urgent cares for example. My kid and wife for various reasons have gone to each. You stay in your car, and the nurse shoves the swap up your nose to your brain. Results for either scenarios were either same day or next day.

Pepsi Center, on the other hand is offering the same, but it is self-administered. I am fairly certain no person can shove the swab up their own nose as far as necessary to get an accurate test. Results are 5 days.
 
Posts: 5906 | Location: Denver, CO | Registered: September 16, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I just saw a local news report that here in N.C, the testing lab (Lab Corp) has over reported the number of tests given by 200,000. So... someone needs to ask just how accurate the other results are. I'm sure we all know that answer Mad
 
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Pepsi Center, on the other hand is offering the same, but it is self-administered. I am fairly certain no person can shove the swab up their own nose as far as necessary to get an accurate test. Results are 5 days.


I would of figured you would of decided it just was not worth posting your non sense in this thread by now. Guess not.

I am pretty sure if you can pick your nose. You could do as good of job as those who supposedly are the only ones qualified to do as you suggest zip.

Your credibility as a believable poster has been shredded thanks to your contributions in this thread. Wink



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Not wanting to be outdone by other liberal idiots, KCMO's lame brain Mayor Quinton Lucas goes big with his latest emergency declaration and mask mandate.State of Emergency extended until Jan 16, 2021 Roll Eyes

https://www.kcmo.gov/Home/Comp...s/News/News/1421/625
 
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The numbers I have found for the accuracy of the tests are 80% for the blood antibody test and 70% for the nasal swab PCR test. That means you need to take them twice in a row and get the same result if you want to be 96% confident or 91% confident respectively.
 
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I think Aetna's profits for the last quarter were up over $6 billion from the same quarter last year

don't tell me that no one is making money off the DemPanic...the insurance company's are making out like bandits
 
Posts: 53981 | Location: Tucson Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The numbers I have found for the accuracy of the tests are 80% for the blood antibody test and 70% for the nasal swab PCR test. That means you need to take them twice in a row and get the same result if you want to be 96% confident or 91% confident respectively.
Anybody tries to stick that shit into my nose again and I'll shoot 'em 14 times in the spleen. Once was more than enough.

I'd rather be jabbed in the sack with a sharpened pencil than to go through that again.
 
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^^^^^ 2 pages back I noted that I tested positive for the China Virus. The test was for an upcoming Proceedure.

Had another test done the next day and those results just came back negative. More inclined to believe the second test as I don’t have any symptoms.

The shitty thing is it pushed my Proceedure to the end of September for no reason....




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Current figure is that 40% of people with COVID-19 are asymptomatic.



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Posts: 17128 | Location: SF Bay Area | Registered: December 11, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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One of my shipmates went to the hospital a couple weeks ago during his off time for a sleep apnea test, the kind where you stay overnight and they monitor you. As he walked in for his appointment, they said they needed to test him for the Wuhan before the procedure and results would be back in 45 minutes or so. He said ok. The nurse then pulled out that spear long skewer to shove up his nose, and he said whoa!, no way you're putting that up my nostril. They said they had to or he couldn't have the apnea test. He said fine and walked out. He adamantly refuses to have that thing shoved up to his cranium.


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Posts: 31138 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Half this stuff is a cluster fuck and the other half is a scam. I don't think the "experts" really know what they're doing.
 
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Half this stuff is a cluster fuck and the other half is a scam. I don't think the "experts" really know what they're doing.


Meanwhile, Sweden is basically done with the pandemic. No massive, life and economy destroying mitigation measures, no masks, no trampling on their natural right to be left alone:



The arrogant asshats at CDC and NIH are manifestly incompetent.

Sweden Worldometers


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I posted that graph back on page 579 while comparing it to Michigan. Similar sized populations, completely different responses, yet remarkably similar.

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Similar sized populations, completely different responses, yet remarkably similar.
That's called a 'clue'.
 
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Yes it is.

Here's another one: New York. Remember we need 40,000 ventilators or we are all going to die? Let's get those COVID patients out of the hospitals and send them back to the nursing homes. They got it early, it was spreading like crazy and guess what? It's over for them, before the public was wearing masks.





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Similar sized populations, completely different responses, yet remarkably similar.
That's called a 'clue'.


And why a bunch of high paid bureaucrats, politicians and media propagandists should be at least bankrupted and out of their jobs and pensions. I am also good with public hangings - after a proper trial of course.


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