SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
Page 1 ... 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 ... 1215
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2) Login/Join 
Member
posted Hide Post
Doctor Dispels Coronavirus Fears: ‘99.8 Percent of People Get Through this with Little to No Progressive or Significant Disease’

Dr. Dan Erickson, owner of Accelerated Urgent Care, spoke at Monday’s “White Coat Summit” on Capitol Hill as part of a greater effort to extinguish fears surrounding the Chinese coronavirus and reminded the public that “99.8 percent of people get through this with little to no progressive or significant disease.”

Erickson ADDRESSED the dominant narrative of rising cases of the virus within the U.S. and pointed out that it is causing undue fear.

“A case is a person, healthy, that tested positive. The vast majority. But the public hears cases and thinks, ‘Oh my goodness. These are sick people!’ No the vast majority — 99.8 percent of people get through this with little to no progressive or significant disease,” Erickson said.

The focus should not center on cases, he continued. Rather, the narrative should focus on hospitalizations and deaths that “are appropriately coded on a death certificate,” he said, stressing “appropriately coded.”

“This is the first time I’ve seen quarantining healthy,” he continued. “I don’t know if you guys think that’s normal. I find that very strange.”

While he said it was good that the U.S. prepared for the worse, Erickson said we must be “realistic with the response.”

“Who showed up? Most of the patients that were showing up for me were very mild illness,” he said, adding that he wanted to come out and “give reality to the situation on the ground and sort of help dispel some fear that people have had.”

Erickson also addressed the mass lockdowns across the country, explaining that they were “very successful,” but in all the wrong metrics.

He said:

Was the lockdown successful? I say yes very successful. Successful in things like this. Anxiety hotline calls up 1000 percent. Child abuse both sexual and non up. Financially, emotional distress, Suicide. Alcohol. 150,000 Americans a month not receiving cancer screening. It’s been effective alright, in all the wrong metrics — in all the areas we didn’t want it to be effective. Delay in medical care. We talked about that. Orthopedics, nonessential. Suicide calls up 600 percent. Suicide calls. We heard other doctors mention this. So was the lockdown effective? If that’s the effect you were going for, then yes but it was trying to flatten the curve but it had these secondary consequences that I think are devastating. People staying indoors. No exercising as you mentioned. No Vitamin D.

“I’m watching people in their Prius by themselves driving with a mask on. There’s no sense to it,” he added. “It’s fear.”

VIDEO AT THIS LINK
 
Posts: 2275 | Location: San Francisco, CA | Registered: February 16, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of erj_pilot
posted Hide Post
^^^^^
LOGIC!!!




"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
Posts: 11066 | Location: NW Houston | Registered: April 04, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
^^^^^^

How dare this Doctor try to inject truth and logic into this pandemic! I'm sure they will now trot out all their "experts" to denounce him.
 
Posts: 887 | Location: North Carolina | Registered: December 14, 2019Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of lastmanstanding
posted Hide Post
That kind of talk got Dr. Scott Jensen of Minnesota under investigation by the state medical board for spreading disinformation about the corona.


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
 
Posts: 8690 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: June 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
That kind of talk got Dr. Scott Jensen of Minnesota under investigation by the state medical board for spreading disinformation about the corona.

Add these physicians to the list:

Frontline Physicians Aim to Dispel ‘Massive’ COVID-19 ‘Disinformation Campaign

American doctors are holding a “White Coat Summit” on Capitol Hill Monday to address what they call “a massive disinformation campaign” surrounding the Chinese coronavirus to which “American life has fallen casualty.”

“If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease,” READS the event’s information page.

The purpose of the two day summit, organized by the Tea Party Patriots, is to allow “frontline doctors [the ability to] talk directly to the American people.” Topics to be discussed include the reopening of America’s schools, “medical cancel culture,” and the public policy.

More details and video at THIS LINK
 
Posts: 2275 | Location: San Francisco, CA | Registered: February 16, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lost
Picture of kkina
posted Hide Post
Is the surge over? Employing technical analysis tools that stockbrokers use to analyze the market, it may just be.

If you look at the last 3 peaks of the new cases plot, a classic formation known as a "triple top" emerges. Their common baseline is right around 60,000 cases. A reversal is generally called if the plot falls below 5% of that baseline, which would be about 57,000.

Yesterday's closing bell was some 54,000 cases, well below the call line. In fact that represents a 10% downside breakout. So from a numbers point of view, the current spike may well be over. It will be interesting to see where the numbers go for the next week or so.


Cases by kpkina, on Flickr



ACCU-STRUT FOR MINI-14
"First, Eyes."
 
Posts: 17137 | Location: SF Bay Area | Registered: December 11, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of cparktd
posted Hide Post
If you ran a business with a significant volume of foot traffic would you post notice to require mask? No? Well, what if your liability insurance carrier and or legal adviser recommended it for liability purposes to protect from being sued.
I can see it now... I got the Covid at Joes BBQ, it the only place I have been... It will happen! And that may be the reason some of these places are requiring mask. Maybe?

I went to a Dollar Store yesterday. No sign on the door. No one in the place with mask on including the two workers I saw. But then at the check out, yea, on the way out less then 20 feet from the exit was a sign requiring mask! Too funny.



Collecting dust.
 
Posts: 4205 | Location: Middle Tennessee | Registered: February 07, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Festina Lente
Picture of feersum dreadnaught
posted Hide Post



NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught"
 
Posts: 8295 | Location: in the red zone of the blue state, CT | Registered: October 15, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Peace through
superior firepower
Picture of parabellum
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
Is the surge over?
No, because there is and never was any "surge". It's all a bunch of lies.
 
Posts: 109805 | Registered: January 20, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
Excellent video of various doctors in California,with experience with Covid, talking about treatment options,and the insanity of not opening schools.

America’s Frontline Doctors Summit

https://www.teapartypatriots.o...line-doctors-summit/


_________________________
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Mark Twain
 
Posts: 13388 | Registered: January 17, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of erj_pilot
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
No, because there is and never was any "surge". It's all a bunch of lies.




"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
Posts: 11066 | Location: NW Houston | Registered: April 04, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
Excellent video of various doctors in California,with experience with Covid, talking about treatment options,and the insanity of not opening schools.

https://www.teapartypatriots.o...line-doctors-summit/


One of the physicians in that 3-hour video is Dr. Simone Gold. Here she is in a 10-minute video in which she appears to be entirely credible IMHO:




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...f0&feature=emb_title
 
Posts: 2275 | Location: San Francisco, CA | Registered: February 16, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lost
Picture of kkina
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
Is the surge over?
No, because there is and never was any "surge". It's all a bunch of lies.

I'm sure you're right. I still think it's interesting that even made-up numbers must follow the rules of mathematics and statistics. Thus my academic interest in such an exercise.



ACCU-STRUT FOR MINI-14
"First, Eyes."
 
Posts: 17137 | Location: SF Bay Area | Registered: December 11, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Ammoholic
Picture of Skins2881
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:

I'm sure you're right. I still think it's interesting that even made-up numbers must follow the rules of mathematics and statistics. Thus my academic interest in such an exercise.


The "surge" is a function of a few things. Increased testing; people from south of the boarder seeking care; people celebrating Memorial day/4th; normal summer travel; people getting fed up with their lives being shut down; people returning to work; mass gatherings in the streets; and the fact the illness is not a dangerous as first thought.

There's nothing unexpected. The fact that hospitals aren't being overwhelmed shows it's likely a very small uptick due to the above, but many cases were previously going undetected, so in reality there may be a 10-20% increase, but not a surge in cases. Again nothing that shouldn't be expected, there is no greater danger than there was last month or the one before.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
 
Posts: 21281 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lost
Picture of kkina
posted Hide Post
^^Yes, I was hoping someone would comment on the fundamentals driving the surge.

The great thing about technical analysis is that the numbers don't care why something is happening. That's for a fundamental analyst to investigate. Tech only identifies known patterns associated with behaviors, but doesn't say why it's happening.

It's usually best to have both tools at one's disposal, although most people lean more heavily toward one side or another.



ACCU-STRUT FOR MINI-14
"First, Eyes."
 
Posts: 17137 | Location: SF Bay Area | Registered: December 11, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lost
Picture of kkina
posted Hide Post
Parousing the internets I don't see anyone else calling an early termination of the surge. So if the numbers hold, maybe you heard it here first. We'll see how the rest of the week goes.



ACCU-STRUT FOR MINI-14
"First, Eyes."
 
Posts: 17137 | Location: SF Bay Area | Registered: December 11, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of erj_pilot
posted Hide Post


Wake me when we hit 60,800,000 cases...



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
Posts: 11066 | Location: NW Houston | Registered: April 04, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Peace through
superior firepower
Picture of parabellum
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
I still think it's interesting that even made-up numbers must follow the rules of mathematics and statistics. Thus my academic interest in such an exercise.
Manure
 
Posts: 109805 | Registered: January 20, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of Ironbutt
posted Hide Post
However many confirmed cases of covid are identified through testing, there are probably AT LEAST ten times that number of people walking around, who had a mild case of covid & got over it, thinking it was just a cold, or flu.

We're never going to know the true numbers.


------------------------------------------------

"It's hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions, than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."
Thomas Sowell
 
Posts: 2048 | Location: PA | Registered: September 01, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lighten up and laugh
Picture of Ackks
posted Hide Post
https://twitter.com/prageru/st.../1287905496104484871

If what that doctor is saying is correct it's pretty amazing. She hasn't lost any high risk patients.

What she is saying was backed up the other night

quote:
Dr. Harvey Risch, an epidemiology professor at Yale School of Public Health, said on Tuesday that he thinks hydroxychloroquine could save 75,000 to 100,000 lives if the drug is widely used to treat coronavirus.

"There are many doctors that I’ve gotten hostile remarks about saying that all the evidence is bad for it and, in fact, that is not true at all,” Risch told "Ingraham Angle," adding that he believes the drug can be used as a "prophylactic" for front-line workers, as other countries like India have done.

Risch lamented that a "propaganda war" is being waged against the use of the drug for political purposes, not based on "medical facts."


https://www.foxnews.com/media/...raham-yale-professor
 
Posts: 7934 | Registered: September 29, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
  Powered by Social Strata Page 1 ... 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 ... 1215 
 

SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

© SIGforum 2024