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LOL get this...

Newsweek 7/23/20
The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion
https://www.newsweek.com/key-d...g-it-opinion-1519535

Newsweek 7/28/20
Trump Shares Conspiracy Theory About Hydroxychloroquine and 2020 Election
https://www.newsweek.com/donal...ine-election-1520878

Those doctors were referencing what the doctor said in a story they ran, but now it is conspiracy theory. You can't make this crap up.
 
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Wow. Now it looks like Squarespace removed America's Frontline Doctor's website:

BREAKING: Twitter, Google, YouTube, Facebook REMOVE Videos on COVID-19 “White Coat Summit” — Now Squarespace REMOVES ITS WEBSITE!

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I'd venture a guess that even the most staunch of the scamdemic town criers amongst us would get tested if they showed serious flu-like symptoms.


Heck yes I'm gonna get tested. I'm gonna get the T-shirt as well. Let's be clear though, the virus isn't the scam, nor is the disease. The numbers, the lies, the lack of facts, etc we the people are being fed everyday is the scam.
 
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The numbers, the lies, the lack of facts, etc we the people are being fed everyday is the scam.


Exactly...the lies, inflated/false numbers, hysteria and propaganda put out there is the real scam.
 
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Now they want us to wear masks... At Home:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/new...d-19-risk-study-says
 
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Now they want us to wear masks... At Home:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/new...d-19-risk-study-says
"A study conducted in China... They voided any credibility whatever in the first sentence of the article. NEXT....


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Let's stop talking about Hydroxychloroquine - you are going to rain on Fauci's vaccine parade !! Big Grin
 
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Let's stop talking about Hydroxychloroquine - you are going to rain on Fauci's vaccine parade !! Big Grin


This just came out today. PAs transvestite Secretary of Health has cited a nursing home for administering hydroxychloroquine to it's residents as a preventative measure, even though it was given under a doctors orders.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/...o-205-residents.html

This is the same Sec of Health that MANDATED that PA nursing homes were required to accept covid-19 patients returning from hospitals. The same one who removed his own mother from a nursing home the day BEFORE issuing the mandate.


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Vaccine question.

Was briefly tempted to open a thread so this didn’t get buried but concerned it will be viewed as a COVID-19 item. I suspect one or more people here will know the answer. If possible it’d be awesome if we could simply focus on that not the need/lack of for a vaccine or any of the other politics.

I am curious about the manufacture of vaccines. Obviously, the current pandemic where you would be looking to manufacture billions and billions of doses is illustrative of the topic, but this could apply in other instances down the road or may have in the past. When there is an urgent global need for a vaccine and (let’s just say) one firm comes up with the formulation which they will protect through a patent how does the production proceed? Does the patent protection begin at application/inception?

Talking with a peer about this he speculated that your patent protection would be in place on completion of viable formula and application and give you the ability to share the formulation with other firms to help with rapidly ramped up production. Is that something that could/does happen in real life or is the concern for intellectual property theft too high there that this wouldn’t happen?

I realize several firms currently in advanced testing are already producing doses using our tax dollars. Most of those figures being tossed around (like they will make a dent in need) are hundreds of thousands of doses by the fall, 1-2 billion by 2021 (that’s pretty vague), etc. That volume will obviously be far short of what’s needed for broad distribution especially if a two-shot regimen, so how are additional doses made?

Peripheral to that, is a vaccine something firms can easily reverse-engineer? So if you’re in North Korea for example you reverse formulate from a sample and then start making your own “generic” version of the vaccine and give the big middle finger to the firm who actually holds patent? Heck if that’s possible will the Wuhu Vaccine offers start to flood my spam folder in place of the old generic Viagra???



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The same one who removed his it's own mother from a nursing home the day BEFORE issuing the mandate.
Small FIFY in an effort at accuracy.

Just doesn't seem we're going to be allowed to have a cheap, tested, and readily available drug to use on this bug when we can instead enrich some pharma company by mandating their new, experimental, and expensive drug instead. Make no mistake, Fauci is clearly on the latter bus. and if you dug deep enough, my bet is you'd find a financial incentive in there somewhere for him.


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I realize several firms currently in advanced testing are already producing doses using our tax dollars. Most of those figures being tossed around (like they will make a dent in need) are hundreds of thousands of doses by the fall, 1-2 billion by 2021 (that’s pretty vague), etc. That volume will obviously be far short of what’s needed for broad distribution especially if a two-shot regimen, so how are additional doses made?

Peripheral to that, is a vaccine something firms can easily reverse-engineer? So if you’re in North Korea for example you reverse formulate from a sample and then start making your own “generic” version of the vaccine and give the big middle finger to the firm who actually holds patent? Heck if that’s possible will the Wuhu Vaccine offers start to flood my spam folder in place of the old generic Viagra???

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Can you put these paragraphs in the form of a question? I am not trying to be difficult, just not sure what you are asking.
 
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Doctors stand behind President Trump, call for reopening America thanks to miracle drug



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Oh, so many leftist asses are gonna chap over this.
 
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Nice slap to the face of Fauci as well.
 
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Can you put these paragraphs in the form of a question? I am not trying to be difficult, just not sure what you are asking.


Sure.
Will someone besides the patent holder be able to manufacture doses of a vaccine in a case where production needs outstrip their ability to supply in a timely manner?



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I am no expert on this but I am sure the Chinese and Russians are trying. I would hope that we have enough internal controls and a solid distribution network to limit this. Counterfeit pharamaceuticals are very common in Mexico, the packaging is almost identical.
As far as other companies in the United States are concerned, I would imagine they would be allowed to help being that it is a national emergency. These drug companies have very sharp accountants and legal teams on board to make sure they get a piece of the pie.
 
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Will someone besides the patent holder be able manufacture doses of a vaccine in a case where production needs outstrip their ability to supply in a timely manner?
I'll answer that question with a question... Ever heard of the Defense Production Act? Because I suspect yes, if necessary.


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I doubt there's ever going to be a vaccine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's never been a vaccine for this family of viruses.

We have what we need already and, as the video above states, the number of hydroxychloroquine doses issued over the decades numbers in the hundreds of millions. Hydroxychloroquine was approved for medical use in the United States 75 years ago. To call hydroxychloroquine well-tested is a monumental understatement.
Just issue hydroxychloroquine to everyone on the planet, then maybe the incessant hand-wringing, pants-pissing and shreiks about the end of the world will calm down to a dull roar.


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I'd be in favor of ANYTHING if it'll save my job come 1-OCT. To quote GEN Jack Beringer, "Hell...I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it'd do any good."



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