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"Effective July 22: To protect our customers and associates from COVID-19, masks are mandatory in all stores."
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I got the same email from Publix:

Masks On, Please
Face coverings are required at all Publix stores beginning July 21 to help limit the spread of COVID-19.

Our local grocery stores are doing the same thing. No mask, no service.

I wonder what they will do if I just say "Medical" and walk by? Because there are supposed to be exceptions...

People will be required to wear masks while inside the stores. There are exceptions for young children under the age of 9 and people with medical conditions who are unable to wear a face mask or covering.

Schnucks and Dierbergs will provide complimentary masks, one per customer, for a limited time and while supplies last.

https://www.kmov.com/news/mask...9a-d38c05bbf3c5.html

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Originally posted by myrottiety:
I got the same email from Publix:

Masks On, Please
Face coverings are required at all Publix stores beginning July 21 to help limit the spread of COVID-19.

Local news radio reported that Ingles is requiring a mask effective today. Harris Teeter starts tomorrow and Bi-Lo will require one starting 7/27.

Here's a list of national chains requiring masks now. More coming for sure.

Sam's Club
Costco
Best Buy
Starbucks
Apple Store
Dollar Tree
Menards
Walmart
American Eagle
Kroger
Kohl's
CVS
Target
Publix
Lowe's
Home Depot
ALDI
Whole Foods
Macy's
Gap
PetSmart
Office Depot

https://www.businessinsider.co...20-7#office-depot-22

I guess Delta got wise to people claiming a medical exemption. Pretty soon some locales are going to require screening just to leave your damn house.

Delta Air Lines has implemented a new policy for enforcing masks on its planes that will require those who cannot wear face coverings for health reasons to fill out a new clearance screener for each flight.

The company announced the new policy, effective this week, and said that it is currently discouraging those with health conditions who cannot wear masks from flying altogether. Delta characterized the Clearance-To-Fly screening as a “virtual consultation process,” which CNN reported involves speaking by phone with the carrier’s third-party partner STAT-MD. That partner would ultimately determine the individual’s ability to fly.

“Medical research tells us that wearing a mask is one of the most effective ways to reduce the covid-19 infection rate,” the spokesperson said. “That’s why Delta remains committed to requiring customers and employees to wear a mask or face covering as a consistent layer of protection across all Delta touchpoints. We encourage customers who are prevented from wearing a mask due to a health condition to reconsider travel.”

However, the spokesperson added, should passengers be prevented from wearing a mask, they are “welcome to fly upon completing a virtual consultation prior to departure at the airport to ensure everyone’s safety.”

According to the company, the consultation can take up to an hour to complete. If a customer is not cleared for exemption from wearing a mask, they’ll be denied boarding unless they agree to comply with Delta’s mask policy. If they still do not agree to wear a mask, they’ll be placed on Delta’s no-fly list.

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Listen, you definitely do not want to risk becoming the American Airlines dweeb of your flight. Just wear a dang mask.

https://gizmodo.com/thought-yo...t-mask-po-1844448361

Here's is Prager's interview with Dr. Codevilla, the author of the small novella I posted yesterday. Unfortunately, the audio is VERY muffled (OK...it really sucks) on Dr. Codevilla's end, so it might take an uncomfortable volume level to hear him. I sent an e-mail to Dennis to see if he had a transcript of the call...

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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"Effective July 22: To protect our customers and associates from COVID-19, masks are mandatory in all stores."
***

I got the same email from Publix:

Masks On, Please
Face coverings are required at all Publix stores beginning July 21 to help limit the spread of COVID-19.

Our local grocery stores are doing the same thing. No mask, no service.

I wonder what they will do if I just say "Medical" and walk by? Because there are supposed to be exceptions...

People will be required to wear masks while inside the stores. There are exceptions for young children under the age of 9 and people with medical conditions who are unable to wear a face mask or covering.

Schnucks and Dierbergs will provide complimentary masks, one per customer, for a limited time and while supplies last.

https://www.kmov.com/news/mask...9a-d38c05bbf3c5.html

Personally, I think these companies are very close to running amok of Federal HIPPA laws. Consider....I go to the grocery store and tell the clown at the door I cannot wear a mask due to having asthma. I do not think they can discriminate and forbid me entry, nor do I think they have any right under HIPPA to my medical information. This mask BS is likely to result in a flood of new lawsuits.

Oh, and if one more dip-shit tells me to wear a mask because it "impedes the spread of the virus" without offering me 'any' proof whatsoever of that outcome, I'm going to suggest they go get stuffed.

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Originally posted by Sig209:
does anyone know if the 'spike' in positive tests results include 'double counted' people?

for instance -- to go back to work you have to get tested and come back negative. you have already tested positive... but after a week you go back and get a second test and it comes back 'still' positive. Is that counted in the 'daily' number or is there some mechanism they are counting only 'first time positives'?

the numbers are highly unreliable IMO

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In MN - they're counting positive TESTS - not actual positive cases/individuals - some have had 5+ (I've heard as high as 1 per day) positive tests before they're 'cleared'... They claim that this somehow provides 'transparency'

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they're counting positive TESTS - not actual positive cases/individuals - some have had 5+ (I've heard as high as 1 per day) positive tests

Soon we will have more "positive cases" than people.
Perhaps in some of the same places where we have more votes than registered voters...

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Personally, I think these companies are very close to running amok of Federal HIPPA laws. Consider....I go to the grocery store and tell the clown at the door I cannot wear a mask due to having asthma. I do not think they can discriminate and forbid me entry, nor do I think they have any right under HIPPA to my medical information. This mask BS is likely to result in a flood of new lawsuits.

Oh, and if one more dip-shit tells me to wear a mask because it "impedes the spread of the virus" without offering me 'any' proof whatsoever of that outcome, I'm going to suggest they go get stuffed.

You're gonna need to brush up on your HIPAA law then. Not just the actual spelling, but the underlying law. Sure it provides penalties for inappropriate disclosures of PHI but not for asking for a reason for an exception to a policy let alone some perceived infringement on your rights.

I also recall that we've generally supported private business' right to prescribe whatever rules they want for access to their business. If we don't like it, we just move on, even if it's a prohibition to carry on site, etc. How is this somehow a different rule set?

And lastly others have suggested all the way back into spring months that engaging in arguments/battles with employees tasked with enforcing their employer's rules, right or wrong, is just bad form. These folks are just trying to keep a job, they aren't setting policy.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:
You're gonna need to brush up on your HIPAA law then. Not just the actual spelling, but the underlying law. Sure it provides penalties for inappropriate disclosures of PHI but not for asking for a reason for an exception to a policy let alone some perceived infringement on your rights.

This is a correct explanation of HIPAA law.

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I also recall that we've generally supported private business' right to prescribe whatever rules they want for access to their business. If we don't like it, we just move on, even if it's a prohibition to carry on site, etc. How is this somehow a different rule set?

That has long been my understanding and some responses to the contrary from the same members surprise me.

does the COVID19 test return a positive test is you've had the flu

does it differentiate between the two?

I'm thinking the test may be essentially worthless

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Originally posted by Georgeair:
I also recall that we've generally supported private business' right to prescribe whatever rules they want for access to their business. If we don't like it, we just move on, even if it's a prohibition to carry on site, etc. How is this somehow a different rule set?

One difference I see is that concealed carry in many states is a privilege in that it requires a permit. Not everyone does it. Everyone does eat however and when you take Walmart and Kroger out of the equation there aren't many options in my small town. I understand your perspective but I do think they are little different.

Teachers unions sue Florida governor over order requiring schools to reopen

The lawsuit, filed in state court in Miami, asks a judge to issue an injunction blocking DeSantis from going through with the statewide mandate, which the unions claim would "force millions of public school students and employees to report to brick and mortar schools that should remain closed during the resurgence of COVID-19 cases."

https://thehill.com/homenews/s...requiring-schools-to

the biggest threat to public education isn't the kids, its the teachers...

wanna get the teachers back in the school, stop paying them until they go back to work

I think the best thing that has come out of this manufactured crisis is that its shown that we can get along just fine without public education - home schooling is the way to go

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School closures may be blamed on the coronavirus, but the actual reason has more to do with saving money.

I don't believe keeping schools closed saves money. Most of the expenditures are fixed. All off the staff, administration, and teachers will still be getting paid. I guess they can save money on subs and bus drivers.

My county school board vote unanimously today to start August 31st instead if August 10th. My question is why? What does it accomplish? What the hell have they been doing since March 13th that they don't have a plan to reopen on time and all of the sudden they need three extra weeks to be ready?

The Governor's administration that said schools must open in August and I think these districts are giving them the middle finger by saying fine, we'll open the very last day in August then. I doubt even in my district there's a single conservative on the school board.

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wanna get the teachers back in the school, stop paying them until they go back to work

Exactly what should happen and include the administrators as well.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
does the COVID19 test return a positive test is you've had the flu

does it differentiate between the two?

I'm thinking the test may be essentially worthless

The current swab test (which I just took) is highly specific for SARS-CoV-2, being based on the detection of specific genetic material. I mean like 99.XX%. There's virtually no chance of a different virus triggering a false positive. However, it's sensitivity is not as high as the previous test (which required deep insertion into the nasal cavity). So there's some chance of a false negative.

The antibody test is more problematic. Other strains of coronavirus may trigger a false positive. Also, a lot depends on timing, i.e. if the body has had enough time (a week or three) to develop antibodies, and how long they stick around after.

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I don't know if this has previously been posted... there was one posted July 11, but I think this is different.

Dr Jeffrey Barke Speaks Out On COVID 19 Madness

Dr. Jeffrey I. Barke, MD, a family practice physician based in Newport Beach, CA speaks out on the COVID-19 madness gripping the country during a rally in Riverside, CA.

don't think this has been posted here yet...



Big Holes in the Covid ‘Spike’ Narrative
Ron Paul / July 20, 2020

https://thewashingtonstandard....vid-spike-narrative/

Motorcycle accidents ruled Covid deaths? In the rush to paint Florida as the epicenter of the “second wave” of the coronavirus outbreak, government officials and their allies in the mainstream media have stooped to ridiculous depths to maximize the death count. A television station this weekend looked into two highly unusual Covid deaths among victims in their 20s, and when they asked about co-morbidities they were told one victim had none, because his Covid death came in the form of a fatal motorcycle accident.

Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. In fact, the “spike” that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.

Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a “Covid-19 death” even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.

In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the “spike” in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.

An analysis of reported daily Covid deaths last week compared to actual day-of-death in Houston revealed that the recent “spike” consisted largely of deaths that occurred in April through June. Why delay reporting until now?

We do know that based on this “spike” the Democrat mayor of Houston cancelled the convention of the Texas Republican Party. Mission accomplished?

Doesn’t it seem suspicious that so many states have experienced “delayed” reporting of deaths until Fauci and his gang of “experts” announced that we are in a new nightmare scenario?

Last week in Florida – which is perhaps not coincidentally the location of the Republican Party’s national convention – another scandal emerged when hundreds of Covid test centers reported 100 percent positive results. Obviously this would paint a far grimmer picture of the resurgence of the virus. Orlando Health, for example, reported a positivity rate of 98 percent – a shocking level – but a further investigation revealed a true positivity rate of only 9.4 percent. Those “anomalies” were repeated throughout the state.

“Cases” once meant individuals who displayed sufficient symptoms to be treated in medical facilities. But when the scaremongers needed a “second wave” they began reporting any positive test result as a “Covid case.” No wonder we have a “spike.”

Politics demands that politicians be seen doing “something” rather than nothing, even if that something is more harmful than doing nothing at all. That is why Washington is so addicted to sanctions.

The same has been true especially in Republican-controlled states in the US in response to the coronavirus. Faced with a virus that has killed about one-third as many people as the normal, seasonal flu virus in 2018, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has endorsed a partial shutdown of the economy resulting in millions tossed into the despair of unemployment. Then he arbitrarily shut down bars because massively increased testing showed more people have been exposed to the virus. And he mandated that people wear face masks. Neither shutting down bars (instead of restaurants or Walmarts) nor forcing people to wear masks will have any effect on the progression of the virus through society. But at least he looks like he’s doing “something.”

We are facing the greatest assault on our civil liberties in our lifetimes. The virus is real, but the government reaction is political and totalitarian. As it falls apart, will more Americans start fighting for their liberty?

about the author

Dr. Ron Paul is an American physician, author, and former politician who served as the U.S. Representative for Texas's 14th congressional district, which includes Galveston, from 1997 to 2013 as well as the 22nd congressional district for special term between 1976 and 1977, when he lost reelection in 1978, and for 3 later terms, from 1979 to 1985. On three occasions, he sought the presidency of the United States: as the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988 and as a candidate in the Republican primaries in 2008 and 2012. Paul is best known for his libertarian views and is a critic of American foreign, domestic, and monetary policies, including the military–industrial complex, the War on Drugs, and the Federal Reserve. Paul has been married to Carol Wells since 1957. They have five children, 18 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren. Ron Paul produces a weekly column known as Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk and is the author of several books.

On a positive note, if you're in Huntsville area and have some dimes get yourself a free sammy!

Exchange coins and get a free sandwich at Chick fil A on South Parkway

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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – The Chick-fil-A on the South Parkway in Huntsville will give you a free CFA original sandwich for every $10 of rolled coins you exchange with the restaurant.

The restaurant says they need coins and they need the community’s help to prevent this Chick fil A location from going cashless. This Chick-fil-A is located at 11820 Memorial Pkwy SW.

According to Chick-fil-A on South Parkway, there is no limit to coins and sandwiches exchanged. Give the restaurant $10 in coins and they give you a $10 bill and a free sandwich.

This is a limited time offer until the coin need is met.

Well, mandatory masks in Ohio starting tomorrow at 6P. Remind me not to vote for DeWine next time.