Didn't one of our own members, an officer from Chicago, recount a story similar to that posted about the motorcycle accident based on his own experience?

I am sure the numbers are not entirely accurate. I have done graduate level research in the sciences, and more than one study has had false findings. The situation at the hospital in St. Louis is not unusual. If you press the right buttons at the hospital in the right way things happen.

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“.... But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”

That takes a special kind of stupid to try and argue that. But that's what I expect from these assholes these days

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Balze, that story has taken on a life of its own to the point of urban legend status. I am not saying it didn't happen at some point but I have seen the "they got impatient, left before being tested and were later notified it was positive" story recounted on pretty much every platform I regularly visit by folks from all over the country. Its always 3rd hand, never once the actual person who left then got the false results. Apparently this has happened to pretty much everyone's cousin's brother's sister in law.

It may indeed be an urban legend, but the problem is that these covid numbers are so skewed, and we have been misled and outright lied to so much about them, that one cannot help but be skeptical. In fact, considering all that, people have a duty to be skeptical at this point.

So perhaps that story is BS, but it is perfectly believable. And that is the fault of our leaders, health experts, the media, and the techno-tyrants.

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Originally posted by TXJIM:

Balze, that story has taken on a life of its own to the point of urban legend status. I am not saying it didn't happen at some point but I have seen the "they got impatient, left before being tested and were later notified it was positive" story recounted on pretty much every platform I regularly visit by folks from all over the country. Its always 3rd hand, never once the actual person who left then got the false results. Apparently this has happened to pretty much everyone's cousin's brother's sister in law.

It may indeed be an urban legend, but the problem is that these covid numbers are so skewed, and we have been misled and outright lied to so much about them, that one cannot help but be skeptical. In fact, considering all that, people have a duty to be skeptical at this point.

So perhaps that story is BS, but it is perfectly believable. And that is the fault of our leaders, health experts, the media, and the techno-tyrants.

Agree with everything you said here, I was just pointing out to you that you may be perpetuating a bad story based on how much the exact thing is popping up around the net.

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Originally posted by TXJIM:

Agree with everything you said here, I was just pointing out to you that you may be perpetuating a bad story based on how much the exact thing is popping up around the net.

I went back and listened to the podcast where I heard that, and it was actually a listener's letter that recounted that story. And in fact that's what the podcaster referred to it as, a story. But the the broader point was similar to what I said. So you're right, it's likely a false story.

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Originally posted by fwbulldog:
One of my wife's friends has it. She's 47, no underlying health problems, and she's not doing well. Prayers, please.

Prayers sent. A friend just got over it, 2 months and he was on a ventilator. Said he was pretty scared as it got grim for a bit and he’s happy to be alive. I do not want this shit.

The numbers we are getting are clearly manipulated. Wasn’t it the Chicago medical examiner and Dr. Birx herself admitted as much? That if you had been in hospice with stage four cancer then get pneumonia but test positive at the end you are counted as a corona death.
So you have to ask yourself why would they feel the need to do this?

As if it isn’t obvious enough that this virus is being hyper marketed as something it’s not ask Dr Jensen in Minnesota. He is now being investigated by the Minnesota Medical Board for spreading disinformation about the Covid. His disinformation is simply a opposing opinion to the desired narrative

Early predictions were 140 to two hundred thousand deaths in Minnesota. He tried to be the voice of reason and said he felt those were extremely high predictions and didn’t think we’d be anywhere near that. Today we are just past 1500 I believe and that number is inflated. He was also on the side of masks are not that effective even if worn properly which most are not.

He was very vocal against the CDC’s guidelines for counting covid deaths. He was among the first to point out the money games hospitals were playing by receiving more money for Covid deaths on the death certificate. So Dr Jensen has been closer to the truth than any of the others but he is the one being investigated.

I’m sure it’s just coincidence he is a Republican state senator who is rumored to be running to unseat Governor Walz in the next election.

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Originally posted by fwbulldog:
One of my wife's friends has it. She's 47, no underlying health problems, and she's not doing well. Prayers, please.

Prayers sent. A friend just got over it, 2 months and he was on a ventilator. Said he was pretty scared as it got grim for a bit and he’s happy to be alive. I do not want this shit.

Hoping for the best as well. Recently a daughter of a second cousin of mine went through it. A wonderful, kind and lovely girl, only 41 with a great son. No past health conditions. She went through pure hell by all accounts, and has lingering effects. According to her mom (my relative), she now has damage to her lungs and perhaps other organs, though it wasn't made clear to us on what her prognosis is. Horrible, this stuff can be.

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I’m sure it’s just coincidence he is a Republican state senator who is rumored to be running to unseat Governor Walz in the next election.

That's what the leftists do. Rather than debate on the merits, they set out to destroy anyone who dares to have a differing opinion. Theirs is always "the correct" opinion and no one else counts.

this is the best video I have seen on COVID-19

Paul E. Marik is a professor of medicine and serves as Chief, Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School.





highly recommended

But, but, but.....The illustrious Dr Fauci just gushed all over the way New York handled his scam pandemic. He says they did it right. This little shit has been wrong about everything so far. How does he still have a job?
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...coronavirus-response

Deferred disease disaster dawning on Democrats

A huge problem is coming soon. Authoritarian blue-state governors and mayors thought they could conduct lockdowns without dire consequences. But all that these fools have done is deferred disaster. That disaster is the reduction in city and state taxes due to the business shutdowns that they ordered.

State and local government officials are starting to hear about this lack of income from their finance teams, and they are mighty concerned. As a result, all across the country, panicked conference calls have been conducted and are probably still going on this weekend.

Specifically, the problem is balancing state and local budgets. Sales taxes from closed businesses are way down, and expenses due to precautions for the coronavirus are way up. There is no way to make these numbers balance. As a result, governments are burning through their reserves, safety funds, slush funds, and rainy day set-asides that they had managed to squirrel away in better times. But within weeks, if not months, the situation will become dire.

What will happen?

The first casualty appears to be our schools. School closures may be blamed on the coronavirus, but the actual reason has more to do with saving money. Next to go will be the consultants, contractors, and temps. After that will come the layoffs and furloughs of nonessential personnel such as secretaries, clerks, and construction and maintenance workers. Social services, housing, public transportation, sanctuary policies, prisons, and medical services may be the next to be affected. Outlandish management salaries and retiree benefits might get be looked at. Finally, what will be left intact will be police, medical, and fire personnel plus essentials such as sewer and water — but bring your own garbage to the dump. Most of these belt-tightening measures will not be popular with the general public, thus the impending disaster for state and local officials.

The reason all this is happening is 99.9% politics and 0.1% science. Our blue city and state officials, in their haste to virtue-signal to the media and to make President Trump look bad with lockdowns and business closures, have merely traded their short-term popularity for long-term disaster. They may kick this can down the road for a brief period of time, but most won't make it through the next elections.

It's ironic. At a time when Democrats and radicals in our society are screaming to "defund the police" and attempting to expand government by putting more people on the dole by destroying our economy, most of America is moving in a conservative direction with greater focus on first responders and less government.

A new social media trend could arise: #DefundtheGovernment!

https://www.americanthinker.co...ng_on_democrats.html

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The illustrious Dr Fauci ... How does he still have a job?

Well, he's in government, and he's a bureaucrat.

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Deferred disease disaster dawning on Democrats

Add the fact that a lot of municipalities, towns, cities and states were virtually bankrupt before the lockdowns= Disaster for some.

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Originally posted by fwbulldog:
One of my wife's friends has it. She's 47, no underlying health problems, and she's not doing well. Prayers, please.

Prayers sent. A friend just got over it, 2 months and he was on a ventilator. Said he was pretty scared as it got grim for a bit and he’s happy to be alive. I do not want this shit.

Hoping for the best as well. Recently a daughter of a second cousin of mine went through it. A wonderful, kind and lovely girl, only 41 with a great son. No past health conditions. She went through pure hell by all accounts, and has lingering effects. According to her mom (my relative), she now has damage to her lungs and perhaps other organs, though it wasn't made clear to us on what her prognosis is. Horrible, this stuff can be.

That’s what I worry about. Getting it and being one of the people permanently damaged. My friend Tim, 2 months in the hospital, on a ventilator. They finally just sent him home but he’s on an oxygen tank. He’s late 40’s, and didn’t have underlying health conditions. I mean there is the news, all the political bullshit, but when someone around you gets real fucked up with this, it hits home. I do not want it.

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I do not want it.

It’s the same as a gunfight or tornado or similar. It’s a low probability event that if it does happen is HIGH IMPACT.

So let’s say 80% of folks get the sniffles or a flu. Let’s say 10% of folks get a BAD Flu. Let’s say only 10% are a combination death or serious complications/long lasting effects. That’s a pretty high impact event.

Hence I think doing what we can to prevent the spread is a good thing if not for you personally but for the person you give it to who rolls craps.

I do so wish we could divest all politics from this crap and I feel like 100 years from now it will be shown that politics made things far worse.

^^^ Hopefully it'll take far less than 100 years!

And the mental retardation in Florida continues and ramps up. God do we have a huge group of morons running local government in Central Florida. Thank god the sheriff's department is showing some common sense, though my bet is they just don't want to be dragged into this nonsense. Orange County leaders discuss mask mandate penalties if COVID-19 cases don’t decrease

Guess I'm looking at jail time or fines.

By the way, can anyone post a link to a scienctific study that proves with a high level of certainty that all these dish rag masks are successful in stopping the spread of the virus. To date I've found nothing except a couple out lying studies that indicate masks are 'not' very successful in quelling a virus like Covid.

Rioting or looting? Sure, go right ahead, we won't stop you...

https://abc7.com/health/couple...or-covid-19/6323759/

Kentucky Couple under house arrest after refusal to quarantine for COVID-19

LOUISVILLE, Kentucky -- A Kentucky couple is under house arrest after one of them tested positive for coronavirus and refused to sign self-quarantine papers.

Elizabeth Linscott got tested for COVID-19 because she was planning to go visit her parents.

"My grandparents wanted to see me, too, so, just to make sure that, you know, if I tested negative, that they would be okay, everything would be fine," Linscott said.

After testing positive but without showing any symptoms, Linscott told WAVE-TV the health department contacted her, requesting she sign documents.

"I agreed to comply to call the Health Department if I was to go. I was to call the Health Department if I was to leave my house for any reason," she said.

But, she chose not to sign.

"I had gotten a message from them, a text message that stated, because of your refusal to sign, this is going to be escalated, and law enforcement will be involved," she said.

Later that week, the county sheriff greeted Linscott's husband, Isaiah, at their front door.

"I open up the door, and there's like eight different people, five different cars, and I'm like 'what the heck's going on?' This guy's in a suit with a mask. It's the Health Department guy, and they have three papers for us. For me, her and my daughter," he said.

The couple was ordered to wear ankle monitors. If they travel more than 200 feet, law enforcement will be notified.

"We didn't rob a store. We didn't steal something. We didn't hit and run. We didn't do anything wrong," Linscott said.

The couple said they never denied self-quarantining. They just didn't agree with the wording of the documents.

And, that's exactly what the Director of the Public Health Department told the judge, that I was refusing to self-quarantine because of this, and I'm like, 'that's not the case at all. I never said that,'" she said.

Linscott said even without the ankle monitor, she had planned to be cautious, and if she had needed medical care, she would have let healthcare workers know she was infected with the virus.