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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer issued Executive Order 2020-155 on Wednesday, which cut $115.07 million from the Michigan State Police budget.

Talk radio host Steve Gruber reported Whitmer ordered the cut, along with others, including $392.67 million being slashed from the Department of Corrections and $36.46 million from the Department of Health and Human Services.

The cut to the State Police equals roughly one-quarter of the agency’s funding, according to Gruber

Whitmer is replacing a portion of the cut funds — $107 million — with funds from the federal coronavirus stimulus bill. The real hurt will likely be felt in 2021, when the MSP cuts remain and the additional federal funds are not available to fill the gap.

Unlike the federal government, Michigan is required to maintain a balanced budget, so Whitmer and legislative Republicans would need to maintain the massive cut, or some portion of it, or raise taxes.

“What is your response to the defunding the police campaigns?” reporter Terrell Jermaine Starr asked Whitmer.

“The spirit is really about reprioritizing, rebuilding communities,” she said, “not just policing.”

The governor lamented budgets being “overwhelmingly focused on policing and corrections systems and the criminal justice system.”

Whitmer said it should be focused on “the education of our population,” and a myriad of social programs.
 
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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer issued Executive Order 2020-155 on Wednesday, which cut $115.07 million from the Michigan State Police budget.

Talk radio host Steve Gruber reported Whitmer ordered the cut, along with others, including $392.67 million being slashed from the Department of Corrections and $36.46 million from the Department of Health and Human Services.

The cut to the State Police equals roughly one-quarter of the agency’s funding, according to Gruber

Whitmer is replacing a portion of the cut funds — $107 million — with funds from the federal coronavirus stimulus bill. The real hurt will likely be felt in 2021, when the MSP cuts remain and the additional federal funds are not available to fill the gap.

Unlike the federal government, Michigan is required to maintain a balanced budget, so Whitmer and legislative Republicans would need to maintain the massive cut, or some portion of it, or raise taxes.

“What is your response to the defunding the police campaigns?” reporter Terrell Jermaine Starr asked Whitmer.

“The spirit is really about reprioritizing, rebuilding communities,” she said, “not just policing.”

The governor lamented budgets being “overwhelmingly focused on policing and corrections systems and the criminal justice system.”

Whitmer said it should be focused on “the education of our population,” and a myriad of social programs.
The reality, whatever this clueless bitch does now or in the future, she's killed Michigan. When the federal money dries up in 2021 and the real state tax revenue impacts from her retarded shutdowns come to bear, Michigan is going to be broke (as if they aren't already) and begging for a bailout.


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Posts: 33845 | Location: Orlando, FL | Registered: April 30, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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There is only one way that Michigan DOC can implement cuts of that magnitude:
Close prisons and kick the thugs loose.
Here in the Yoop, prisons employ a lot of people so that more unemployment for us. If the MSP cuts back, less cops and more thugs.
Everyone loses except the thugs.


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Posts: 16389 | Location: Marquette MI | Registered: July 08, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I think the theory that SARS-Covid-19 would dissipate in the heat and humidity of summer has been put to bed.
 
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So's the theory that dry heat will kill it. Arizona's apparently seen a lot of cases since the temperature's gone over 100.
 
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In AZ we all go inside when the temps go over 100 degrees. Or to watreparks and tubing down rivers, both of which Gov. Ducey banned. So back inside, which is how people catch it from each other. The other dirty secrets to our so-called spike is overcounting positive cases, testing blitzes, influxes of Covid sick illegals in border areas, and influxes of Californians due to their state being completely shut down.

The UV out in the sun here will burn your unprotected skin in minutes. Do you really think a virus will survive that in addition to temps over 100 degrees in the shade, which is difficult to find?
 
Posts: 1519 | Location: Arid Zone A | Registered: February 14, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Well, in Victoria (Aus), a State wide 6 week lockdown was imposed.

Day 14.

And now, a mask mandate is now in place.
Travel outside, wear a mask.
$200 fine if you don't observe this State health order.

Can leave the house for the following reasons:

- buying essential supplies
- for work, if you are unable to work from home
- to exercise
- to attend personal medical appointments, or for compassionate reasons.

Many here are used to this ... by now.

source: Health Gov Australia




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Posts: 1886 | Location: Altona Beach | Registered: February 20, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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While I think this whole thing is ridiculous and we should just get back to our lives, the only good thing about these mask mandates is they are evidence that people generally seem to agree another shutdown of our economy is not the way to go.

I'd rather them be screaming about masks than destroying our economy.
 
Posts: 7548 | Registered: April 19, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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In AZ we all go inside when the temps go over 100 degrees. Or to watreparks and tubing down rivers, both of which Gov. Ducey banned. So back inside, which is how people catch it from each other. The other dirty secrets to our so-called spike is overcounting positive cases, testing blitzes, influxes of Covid sick illegals in border areas, and influxes of Californians due to their state being completely shut down.

The UV out in the sun here will burn your unprotected skin in minutes. Do you really think a virus will survive that in addition to temps over 100 degrees in the shade, which is difficult to find?


According to Bret Weinstein (who should know something about these things) on Joe Rogan last week, there is very limited evidence of outdoor transmission of the virus and that UV is likely the reason.

So in a way, the lockdowns have in fact kept us all in the environment the virus is most likely to spread (Weinstein believes, like others, that it was an engineered bug that escaped the lab). Since he's an evolutionary biologist, however, he also is worried that, if we all go outside, it might adapt and spread that way too.


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I had a surreal conversation with a Navy buddy of mine a few days back. It really rammed home how deep some people have bought into the fear porn surrounding Covid-19.

My buddy works for a Fortune 50 company in Risk Management and briefs the CEO on COVID 19 among other items.

He asked if I thought Gov Desantis in FL was a clown, I told him I didn't think so, that I thought he was trying to treat the situation with the appropriate level of action based on the situation for that Location/Situation.

Later he tried to say Gov Coumo did a good job so that was a pretty big red flag. I didn't push back on Coumo doing a good job as we had just got through a heated discussion that FL was a "dumpster fire" and pushing back on my denial of the pending doom. He tried to make his case by saying he talks to experts and doctors and sees the data.

I told him the FL dashboard does not show deaths ramping as fast as cases - so something has changed - He said "WAIT TWO WEEKS!"

When I mentioned that FL has been open since May and I've been hearing "wait 2 weeks" every day since we opened. He again said he looks at the data, it's his job, he talks to doctors...and he doesn't trust the FL data.

He didn't get my analogy about "if your only tool is a hammer - everything looks like a nail", I bluntly told him if you are an epidemiologist - ever bug is the next global catastrophe.

I asked him what data he trusts - he said John Hopkins - and I asked where they get their data from? He didn't answer.

By the way - John Hopkins data ties to Florida's numbers for cases & deaths. The time series of positive tests & deaths don't match exactly - but that may be a timing or classification issue - but they are close enough and have the same trend lines.

He started arguing that people aren't wearing masks - I told him - what makes you say that? I went out today and everyone was wearing masks inside and I went to 3 places ( I don't mean to make this a mask posting). He said that is just my anecdotal observation - which I countered with where is he getting his data that no one is wearing masks? No answer to that.

We ended that portion of our discussion by saying I'd check back in 2-3 weeks to confirm whether or not FL is a dumpster fire.

My buddy is generally a conservative - but he is now a rabid anti-Trumper and believes even if Biden is going senile - he'd be better than Trump. It was a disappointing discussion, especially when he said wearing a mask is an IQ test...

He lives outside of NYC and what happened there really left an indelible impression. He mentioned corpses being put into refrigerated trailers - but even he had to admit when I asked about the resources provided by the federal government for ICU beds being unused that it was really 2 hospitals in NYC that were overrun with cases - so it was a situation where the existing capacity wasn't used wisely.

Cognitive dissonance is a phrase I've really appreciated since first hearing it - and this discussion was full of it.

I steered the discussion to our kids and their struggles during Covid with school and activities - and the call at least ended on a positive note.
 
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Well, we held out until every state around us had implemented one, but the Governor has now implemented our very own mask order, effective Monday. Masks must be worn in all public indoor spaces (exceptions for eating, drinking, and strenuous physical activity), as well as outdoors in areas where social distancing cannot be observed.

No guidance as to enforcement, but he says the "mask police" won't be out enforcing it, whatever that means. Technically violation is a class B misdemeanor...which is a higher level offense than basic OWI (DUI) in our state (class C misdemeanor). So we're essentially saying that you can be criminally charged simply for not wearing a mask during a time when we're not even taking actual criminals to jail for equal or even higher-level offenses.

I can't wait to start fielding all the calls from the local Karens angry because their neighbor walked to the mailbox without a mask on. Thankfully my vacation starts Monday, so I'll miss the first two and a half weeks of it. If I'm lucky Para's comet will come along and take us all out before I have to go back.
 
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I had a surreal conversation with a Navy buddy of mine a few days back. It really rammed home how deep some people have bought into the fear porn surrounding Covid-19.
Every poll I have seen has mask use at 75-80% right now. If the number of cases has continued to rise quickly it is already apparent that masks are not the solution. PROPER use of masks may be a solution, but there does not seem to be much interest in educating people and those that appear on TV to chide everyone that mask wearing is good almost always have very poor mask protocols and habits (Biden and Pelosi in particular).
Someone posted from this site previously, and it provides great graphical representations of how this are playing out. Its easy to compare the first spike and the second, and the lag has already passed, mortality is way down.

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Well, we held out until every state around us had implemented one, but the Governor has now implemented our very own mask order, effective Monday.


Sorry, I'm not up to speed on every single members location. Which state is this?


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when he said wearing a mask is an IQ test...


It is a matter of perspective, if you are for masks, then those without have low IQ's, OTOH if you don't buy the mask argument, then the mask wearer is the low IQ person.

Tell him mask bigotry is a two way street, and to stop being a maskhole about it....
 
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More graphs....yaaaaaaay! I don't believe, for one second, the numbers published. Garbage In/Garbage Out...first rule of data sampling.



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More graphs....yaaaaaaay! I don't believe, for one second, the numbers published. Garbage In/Garbage Out...first rule of data sampling.

Figures lie and liars figure.


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Posts: 5721 | Location: Ohio | Registered: December 27, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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We've been going to baseball tournaments for the past 5 weeks here in GA. Each tournament has roughly 5 fields. Some a little more, some a little less.

So for any particular game, after the first game of the day, there are an average 10-20 teams in the park (~2-3 done playing and waiting around/leaving, 10 teams playing, ~2-3 teams showing up to play next).

I can count on one hand, maybe two, the number of people I see wearing masks. People social-distance to an extent but it's basically impossible at tournaments.

No panic. No shaming. No glaring. Just families out doing family stuff. And yelling at the umps! Smile





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At least the umpires won't get "Mask Shamed"... Big Grin




"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
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the only useful mask

 
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