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Coin Sniper |
Here is what I don't get about this entire thing, the time duration. This virus is supposed to have a 10-14 day incubation period. Here in Michigan we went into shut down more or less on Monday 17 March when bars/restaurants were closed ahead of St. Patty's Day, gatherings were limited, and things progressed from there to Stay at Home orders on 23 March. Based on the graph we keep getting fed on that day there were 263 positive cases. Ok, we expect that to grow in 14 days as anyone just infected will then present. That happened at 14 days it was 1749 cases on 7 April. Trending up, now in total lock down except essential workers on 21 April we hit 967. This was encouraging as although a spike, the previous 3 days were all under 800. We extended again On 5 May we were at 447 cases and trending down. And extended again to 28 May. Initially we went to 28 days of lock down on a virus with a 14 day incubation period. then kept extending. We are not blowing past 60 days headed for 74 total days. Granted there will be some spread in medical facilities among staff, but given that prior to this week Michigan was receiving and "A" grade for social distancing and staying home. Why is this virus still propagating? Why is there all of this fear of asymptomatic people spreading the disease unknowingly, shouldn't they all have recovered by now? I'm willing to accept that there are likely false positives, definitely multiple counting of positives, and likely positives as noted from S. Korea where the tests detected virus fragments that were not viable and couldn't infect (healthy immune people). I'm also willing to accept that the spikes are likely data adjustments, as we already know if they find death certificates from previous days, they'll add them to today driving up the numbers. But why has it taken 60 days for a virus with a 14 day incubation in a state with the most restrictive lock down in the nation to die? Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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An example of the insanity that has gripped millions of Americans. Just look at this group of nancies having a social distanceing pow-wow. A friend of mine snapped this pic I think somewhere in Texas. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Guess I’ll be taking a road trip from East Germany...err I mean Pennsylvania to Tennessee soon to eat out in a real restaurant. But seriously about the East Germany thing, I half expect to hear from Supreme Commmander Wolf that he’s ordering a wall to be built around the entirety of Pennsylvania...for our “protection”. | |||
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New Mexico's governor newest order requires that everyone in a public space must wear a mask. Since masks are to come by the state will mail you one. One county sheriff said it's unenforceable and went on to say that the governor doesn't have the power to create new laws. https://www.currentargus.com/s...awmakers/5192243002/ | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I'll take his word on the latter, as this is almost certainly the case in all 50 states, but there is no doubt whatsoever that he is right about the former. Simply not enforceable. You can arrest some random unlucky schmoes, but you can't get them all. This is a non-starter. Ridiculous ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Fonky Honky |
Wisconsin is open, and Milwaukee most definitely is. Driving home an hour ago, I saw way more traffic than in the past several weeks. Can hear loads of vehicles, especially motorcycles, and MPD seems pretty busy. Going out tomorrow for my Saturday shopping/drive with the windows down and sunroof open. Noticed drive thrus have been gradually more busy the past few weeks. It will be interesting to see if the Karens are out, now that Gov Evers got smacked down, or if they are still sheltered in fear. Either way, I'll be out and about. Living. _________________________________________ Dei. Familia. Patria. Victoria. Don't back up, don't back down. | |||
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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
As noted before, over here the debate is not really along partisan lines, except maybe for centrists vs. the political fringe, both left and right. There is still popular two-thirds support for the government course, but ironically waning as restrictions are now being lifted at a rapid pace; all shops have been open again since last week, and as of yesterday restaurants can service in-house again with appropriate precautions. Schools and daycare are slowly coming back. From an advertisement point of view, my company's business was still meagre by normal standards this week, but at least it was within the range of normalcy. I expect most of the rest of measures to be lifted by mid-June, though public mass events currently remain banned until the end of August. But we had less than 1,000 new infections every day this week, and are down 78 percent from the peak of active cases on 6 April. And with the emergency capabilities built up over the last weeks - actually unused so far - we could deal with a possible second wave of about three times the infection peak of the first. Protests are by both left- and right-wingers, plus sovereign citizen types, anti-vaxxers and general conspiracy nuts, but also folks from the political mainstream, particularly those economically and personally affected. Most opposition comes, in descending order, from voters of the right-wing AfD, classical liberal Free Democrats, and post-communist Left Party. From my personal observation, right-wingers tend to protest against the restrictions - though maybe out of calculation rather than conviction - while left-wingers protest their usual causes despite them. I guess both agree that the government is using them to keep them down though.
https://www.spiegel.de/interna...7a-980a-d58e9d6b4aec Also see Berlin Fears Populists Will Exploit Protest Movement for internal debate within the various parties. | |||
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this popped up on a website i was on where do they get this stuff from the 1950s ussr poster company "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin, 1759-- Special Edition - Reverse TT 229ST.Sig Logo'd CTC Grips., Bedair guide rod | |||
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I've been keeping an eye on this, as NM is home for me. It's where my house on a foundation and wife is, although I'm currently working in the free state of South Carolina, right next to the freer state of Georgia. I'm heading home this Wednesday for a week or so. Carlsbad is home, right smack in the middle of this sheriff's jurisdiction. No word, however, on how the Carlsbad Police Department views this. I have informed my wife I will not be wearing a mask. Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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Truckin' On |
Here are the figures released this week, straight from the Governor's web site: SANTA FE – New Mexico state health officials on Wednesday announced 155 additional positive tests for COVID-19. Per the state Department of Health, the most recent cases are: 16 new cases in Bernalillo County 2 new case in Chaves County 4 new cases in Cibola County 2 new case in Curry County 4 new cases in Doña Ana County 53 new cases in McKinley County 1 new case in Roosevelt County 3 new cases in Sandoval County 56 new cases in San Juan County 1 new case in Santa Fe County 1 new case in Taos County 2 new cases in Valencia County 7 new cases among federal detainees at the ICE Otero County Processing Center 3 new cases among federal detainees at the Otero County Prison Facility The Department of Health on Wednesday also reported twelve additional deaths in New Mexico related to COVID-19. Those cases are: A female in her 50s from Bernalillo County. The individual was hospitalized. A female in her 80s from Bernalillo County. The individual was hospitalized and was a resident of the Village at Alameda in Albuquerque. A male in his 100s from Bernalillo County. The individual was hospitalized and was a resident of the Village at Alameda in Albuquerque. A male in his 30s from McKinley County. The individual was hospitalized and had underlying conditions. A male in his 80s from McKinley County. The individual was hospitalized and had underlying conditions. A female in her 70s from San Juan County. The individual had underlying conditions and was a resident of Cedar Ridge Inn in Farmington. A second female in her 70s from San Juan County. The individual had underlying conditions and was a resident of Cedar Ridge Inn in Farmington. A female in her 80s from San Juan County. The individual had underlying conditions and was a resident of Cedar Ridge Inn in Farmington. A female in her 90s from San Juan County. The individual had underlying conditions and was a resident of Cedar Ridge Inn in Farmington. A second female in her 90s from San Juan County. The individual had underlying conditions and was a resident of the Life Care Center of Farmington in Farmington. A female in her 100s from San Juan County. The individual had underlying conditions and was a resident of the Life Care Center of Farmington in Farmington. A male in his 50s from Sandoval County. The individual was hospitalized. The number of deaths of New Mexico residents related to COVID-19 is now 231. I've been disgusted, annoyed, and frustrated with all of this until Wednesday, when I began to feel true, visceral anger. Of the 153 new cases, 109 of those or 71% were in the NW corner- the Navajo reservation. Of the new deaths, most of them involved underlying conditions, 8 of them were on the reservation again, and all of those were of advanced age. These figures, the truth of which I doubt (or rather see as lies), are being used to keep the rest of the state in lockdown. My county, Santa Fe, had one- ONE- new case. And I've seen a lot of people out and about the last two weeks. The virus is not spreading here. The bullshit most certainly is. ____________ Μολὼν Λαβέ 01 03 04 14 16 18 | |||
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Saw this on a link to Twitter. Made sense to me. Are Masks required to be worn by prisoners in jail or is it just free people who are required to wear masks? ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Inmate mask usage in Los Angeles. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Shit don't mean shit |
Hopefully more states will follow Colorado's lead on the fake numbers they've been reporting. Colorado amends coronavirus death count - says fewer have died of COVID-19 than previously thought Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report. The change came after Colorado’s Department of Public Health admitted that its COVID-19 death toll was counting those who tested positive for the coronavirus but had died of other causes, Fox 31 Denver reported late Friday. The department now says 1,150 Coloradoans who died had COVID-19 but only 878 of those deaths were “due to” COVID-19. “We have been reporting at the state, deaths among people who had COVID-19 at the time of death and the cause of that death may or may not have been COVID-19,” Dr. Eric France, the health department's chief medical officer told the station. “We started to hear stories about ‘are these correct or are these incorrect?'” France said. Fox News on Friday reported on one of those stories as part of a report that found that the hodgepodge way states counted COVID-19 deaths was a reason why some people believe the U.S. COVID-19 death figure was exaggerated. The story involved a 35-year-old man from Montezuma County who died May 4 of alcohol poisoning but whose death was counted in Colorado’s COVID-19 death toll. “The state is reporting that death as a COVID death, but our health department wanted to let people know that even though the person did have the virus, they did not die from it,” the Montezuma County Health Department said about the man's death. The national COVID-19 death toll climbed to 87,568 Saturday with the deaths of 1,662 more people due to the virus, John Hopkins University data showed. But that latest number does not take into account Colorado's amended figure, listing the death toll at 1,150. France blamed the confusion on the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System that states use to report COVID-19 deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Hours before the health department lowered the death count a somber Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, a Democrat, had told a coronavirus news briefing that the state had reached a “reflection point” as the number of COVID-19 deaths had surpassed 1,000. "It's important to remember that every number has a name," Polis said. "It's easy to say over 1,000 people. Each one of those is a person with friends, loved ones and family. If you’re fortunate enough not to have known someone who was lost, take a moment and remember why we all need to do our part." Fox 31 obtained a statement from Polis’ office after the death count was reduced that said the governor fully supported efforts by the health department to specify how many deaths were specifically due to COVID-19 “and not just specific to CDC guidelines that include people who died with Coronavirus but not necessarily from it.” “State epidemiologists believe that once the data is up to date then the number will, unfortunately, be higher,” the statement concluded. https://www.foxnews.com/us/col...onavirus-death-count | |||
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Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
Colorado COVID-19 death stats inflated and GOP lawmaker calling for the indictment of the head of the state health department for falsely altering death certificates. Due to the push in using more accurate reporting, Colorado COVID-19 fatalities just dropped by %24. For a governor that claims to be so data driven when making his decisions I find it ironic that it has taken him, and his administration, so long to figure out the 'inaccuracies' in their reporting stats. [Note: video and letter found at linked website story. There is additional info covered in the video news report so I would suggest going to the website and watching the video.] GOP rep alleges falsified COVID-19 records, calls for indictment of Colorado’s top health official Author: Kyle Clark, Erin Powell Published: 11:33 PM MDT May 14, 2020 Updated: 9:50 PM MDT May 15, 2020 DOUGLAS COUNTY, Colo. — A Republican state representative asked prosecutors to bring criminal charges against Colorado’s top public health official Thursday, claiming that she illegally falsified death records to inflate COVID-19 death totals. Rep. Mark Baisley (R-Roxborough Park) issued a formal letter requesting an investigation and criminal charges by George Brauchler, district attorney for the 18th Judicial District. Brauchler is also a Republican. Baisley accuses Jill Ryan, executive director of the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE), of “falsely altering death certificates.” CDPHE collects and reports COVID-19 statistics from across Colorado. “Falsely inflating the number of deaths due to COVID-19 adversely impacts the professional reputation of nursing homes, hospitals and healthcare workers while creating undue fear for families,” Baisley wrote in his letter. He also provided another letter dated April 17 from the Someren Glen senior care center to its staff, residents, and residents’ families. The Centennial facility's letter said CPDHE had overruled the cause of death findings by attending physicians in order to list seven deaths as being caused by COVID-19. “We have never seen a situation where the health department overrules a physician’s findings,” the letter provided by Baisley reads. “However, these are unprecedented times and the health department officials did not share their motivation for changing physician’s orders.” In a statement to 9Wants to Know on Thursday, CDPHE said the department has used a nationwide standard accepted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to classify deaths. "We classify a death as confirmed when there was a case who had a positive SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) laboratory test and then died. We also classify some deaths as probable," their statement said. That method changed, however, on Friday. Colorado Gov. Jared Polis and CDPHE announced that going forward, cases in which people had COVID-19 and died of another cause will be recorded separately from the deaths that were caused by COVID-19. With the new protocol, state records show 1,150 people died with COVID-19 in their systems as of Friday, and 878 people have died because of the coronavirus. One day prior, state data said there were 1,019 COVID-19 deaths. "What the people of Colorado want to know is not who died with COVID, but who died of COVID-19," Polis said in a press conference. "I've told [CDPHE] to make sure they're very clear in their reporting." He added there are only a few cases where the official cause of death isn't clear, and that he considers criminal charges against Ryan to be "completely inappropriate." Brauchler told 9NEWS it's too premature to discuss charges before an investigation, but it is possible that misdemeanor charges could be filed if his office were to find wrongdoing. Elected Republicans at the local and state level have been critical of public health leaders throughout the pandemic. Baisley previously signed on to an effort encouraging Douglas County to break ties with Tri-County Health Department after its public health leaders suggested a stay-home order. Prior criticism from Republicans at the state legislature had focused on policy decisions. Baisley’s letter is the first formal accusation of criminal wrongdoing by Colorado’s public health officials. | |||
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Altitude Minimum |
In response to Balze's previous post with the photo; yesterday on the way home 2 guys in a Mustang convertible, with the top down, passed me. Both were wearing masks, going down the road on a beautiful sunny day. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Facebook busy protecting us from misinformation. It's a freaking joke for Pete's sake. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Translation: Oops, we got caught.
Translation: It's Trump's fault. Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Still a lie, yet closer to the truth. | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
One of my friends works at Sorrento Therapeutics. “Scientists at a California biotech company have found an antibody that completely blocks coronavirus in a discovery they called a 'cure,' Fox News reported. Sorrento Therapeutics, based in San Diego, claims its STI-1499 antibody stopped coronavirus from entering 100 percent of healthy human cells in petri dish experiments. It's one of several antibodies planned to be combined for a drug 'cocktail' Sorrento is developing in collaboration with Mt Sinai School of Medicine in New York.” https://mol.im/a/8324395 Serious about crackers | |||
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