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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
^^. Doesn’t matter that the article is almost 2 months old. The coronaviruses, yes plural, don’t just go away. The common cold is a coronavirus. Over the next 1-3 years the majority of people are going to get it. And most people will be fine with or without a vaccine, if they’re even able to come up with one in that time frame.

Coincidentally filled with Chinese and WHO lies. Couldn't find anything more reliable or current?

This whole thing is starting to feel like an episode of The Twilight Zone.
I keep expecting to hear Rod Serling come on and narrate this thing.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Here is my big challenge with the pandemic. If you search articles or responses to questions the answers vary wildly. It seems like anyone with an opinion is publishing an article on what we should or shouldn't do. Every time and article is release with a direction, a counter article appears in days.

It is very difficult to tell what is accurate and what is opinion.

They're all guessing.

The rate of coronavirus infections has reached a new low in Australia, with one state, Queensland, reporting no new cases at all in the last 24 hours.

"... frustrating, very difficult, no one is enjoying it, but people are following the rules and it is working, making a big difference,” said the Victoria's State Premier, Daniel Andrews.

Mr Andrews further said -
"If we stick together, we will get to the other side, and faster. Let’s keep this performance going. That gives us options. We can properly, in a cautious way, examine those in the weeks and months ahead. Then we can potentially make changes.”

There are more than 6600 confirmed COVID-19 cases in Australia.

2963 in New South Wales
1329 in Victoria
1019 in Queensland
435 in South Australia
545 in Western Australia
195 in Tasmania
103 in the Australian Capital Territory
28 in the Northern Territory.

The death toll stands at 72.

(Source: news.com.au)

Sure, there is still are acts of complete stupidity and complacency (mostly the 20-29 yo).

There is a growing restless with the restriction on movement and freedoms.

The longer these measures drag on?
There will be demands for loosening restrictions.
The Fed and State governments decide on what those 'prerequisites' might be.

The unease will never be anything like the short-lived Eureka Rebellion of 1854.

One statistic missing with this respiratory pandemic, has been flu deaths. It would appear that there have been none since March.

Seems that if one is admitted to hospital as a result of a stroke, and subsequently go on to the meet the Maker.

The cause of the lack of oxygen to the brain, as the recently departed has tested positive for covid-19, is apparent and recorded as such.
Gotta hit those numbers.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn, that we all have/had it. Maybe for sometime.

Just not gonna die from it, unless there is a pre-existing condition or compromised immunity.

My non-medical opinion.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Coincidentally filled with Chinese and WHO lies. Couldn't find anything more reliable or current?

There are a few nuggets of truth in there amongst the WHO bullshit. Just imagine you’re on a post-Easter egg hunt.

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Originally posted by FrankMoses:
How come India hasn’t exploded like a fireworks warehouse? Over a billion people living in a dumpster.

They throw rotted human bodies into the rivers then bathe and brush their teeth with that same water. Coronavirus probably doesn't stand a chance.

Locally, Marion Correctional is reporting 1800 inmates confirmed with the virus and 109 staff.

Just when I think these people have reached the pinnacle of stupid, they top it. Just saw a report on local news(copied from fakes news cnn) that "experts" are wanting to ban people from entering grocery stores and make them go to curbside only. I swear to god, i wish I could get my hands on one of these "expert" assholes. Where do these damn morons come from??

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Originally posted by Micropterus:

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Originally posted by FrankMoses:
How come India hasn’t exploded like a fireworks warehouse? Over a billion people living in a dumpster.

They throw rotted human bodies into the rivers then bathe and brush their teeth with that same water. Coronavirus probably doesn't stand a chance.

Exactly - they are probably the key to creating a vaccine!

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
Locally, Marion Correctional is reporting 1800 inmates confirmed with the virus and 109 staff.

Wow.
This thing spreads like wildfire where you have people in close quarters. Prisons, nursing homes, cruise ships, aircraft carriers... wherever you have people in close quarters.

As of Sunday, a single prison in central Ohio has more positive cases of COVID-19 than any county in the state. With a shocking 1,828 positive tests among its inmate population of 2,500, the Marion Correctional Institution has more cases than Cuyahoga County (Cleveland), Franklin County (Columbus) and Hamilton County (Cincinnati).

More than 100 prison staffers have also tested positive for the virus there, which means that all told, Marion accounts for more than 17 percent of Ohio's total caseload.

https://www.clevescene.com/sce...ingle-county-in-ohio

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Here is my big challenge with the pandemic. If you search articles or responses to questions the answers vary wildly. It seems like anyone with an opinion is publishing an article on what we should or shouldn't do. Every time and article is release with a direction, a counter article appears in days.

It is very difficult to tell what is accurate and what is opinion.

Yeah, one would THINK that with all the availability of information we have in the world, we should have the ability to get good, timely info on this garbage. Yet, we still can't get basic info. Can people who have recovered from Covid get it again? Do dogs get it? Is hydroxychloroquine a viable treatment option?

There is so much fake news out there that we still don't have good answers to these basic questions.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
Can people who have recovered from Covid get it again?

The most recent article from The Wall Street Journal has this to say about people who initially test negative, but then positive, so although there is evidently some indication that the disease can be difficult for the body to get rid of, that may be the reason for why it looks like there is reinfection.

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As they struggle with the nuances of immunity, medical experts are troubled by reports of people who appeared to recover from Covid-19, test free of the coronavirus, and then sicken again. South Korea’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says it is investigating 160 cases, worried that the virus may reactivate to cause relapses or reinfections.

Medical researchers suspect these cases arise from problems with the diagnostic PCR genetic test for the virus. In later stages of the disease, the virus settles into the lungs where it can elude detection. Researchers at the Chengdu Medical College in Sichuan, China, last week reported a case in which a patient with severe symptoms of Covid-19 tested negative for the virus eight times before a positive result.

“As long as you are mounting a strong immune response, you should not be reinfected right away,” said molecular virologist Rebecca Dutch at the University of Kentucky, who is a former president of the American Society of Virology. “The most likely explanation is that they never cleared the virus in the first place.”

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As for dogs, the virus has been found on them, but it’s believed that that’s simply because they were exposed to the viruses and continue to harbor them, not that they get the disease or would pass it on as do humans.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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Originally posted by Micropterus:

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Originally posted by FrankMoses:
How come India hasn’t exploded like a fireworks warehouse? Over a billion people living in a dumpster.

They throw rotted human bodies into the rivers then bathe and brush their teeth with that same water. Coronavirus probably doesn't stand a chance.

Exactly - they are probably the key to creating a vaccine!

Step up from the George Carlin joke

Friends son works at Marion Correctional. He tested positive. No sense of smell, taste. But mostly just tired, no respiratory issues. 200 staff tested positive. And most all of the prisoners. Word is DeWine is sending National Guard in today to help.
Anyone one heard from GrumpyBiker?

Either this poll is pure gaslighting by the godawful Yahoo News, or we truly are a nation full of brainwashed sheep.

Yahoo News/YouGov coronavirus poll: Most Americans reject anti-lockdown protests
https://news.yahoo.com/yahoo-n...tests-124259347.html

An overwhelming majority of Americans, Republicans included, are rejecting right-wing protests — encouraged by President Trump — to immediately “reopen” the country in the midst of the world’s largest and deadliest coronavirus outbreak, according to a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll.

The survey, conducted April 17 to April 19, found that a full 60 percent of the public opposes the largely pro-Trump protesters whose calls for governors to “liberate” their states by lifting lockdown measures have attracted intense media attention in recent days — and whose message the president amplified Friday in a series of all-caps “LIBERATE” tweets about three swing states: Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia.

Only 22 percent of Americans say they support the protesters. Despite Trump’s messaging, even Republicans oppose the protests 47 percent to 36 percent. Asked whether they agree or disagree with Trump’s “LIBERATE” tweets, only a quarter of Americans say they agree.

The total number of protesters may be small. But the public’s dismissive attitude toward them reflects a deeper sentiment: Americans strongly disagree with those who claim the country is ready to reopen for business.

The margins aren’t close. Seventy-one percent of Americans — and 56 percent of Republicans — say they are more concerned about lifting the coronavirus restrictions too quickly than lifting them too slowly. Only 29 percent of Americans say the opposite. The same number (71 percent) say they want public health officials “to be fully able to test and trace new cases and outbreaks” before reopening; only 29 percent say they want the country to reopen “as soon as possible to prevent further economic damage.” And more than twice as many Americans say the U.S. is not conducting enough coronavirus testing to track future outbreaks of the virus (52 percent) than say it is (22 percent).

As a result, a mere 13 percent of Americans think their own community will be ready to reopen by May 1, the date Trump has been pushing for weeks. Only 7 percent say the U.S. as a whole will be ready to reopen by then. Eighty-one percent of all adults (and 74 percent of Republicans) believe that the virus will be a “serious problem” for them and their community for two months or more, and three-quarters of Americans (77 percent) say the entire country will not be ready to reopen until at least June. Nearly half (48 percent) say the U.S. will not be ready to reopen until July 1 or later.

The reason, according to the poll, is that nearly 90 percent of Americans think a resurgence of coronavirus cases would be either “very” (51 percent) or “somewhat” likely (36 percent) if lockdown ended today. Overall, 79 percent continue to say that stay-at-home orders are “the only way to stop the spread of COVID-19”; only 21 percent say “the cure is worse than the disease.” Trump has tweeted about the lockdowns: “THE CURE CANNOT BE WORSE (by far) THAN THE PROBLEM!” In deciding when to reopen, far more Americans say the U.S. should pay attention to doctors and public health officials (56 percent) than to economists and business leaders (7 percent); 37 percent want both consulted equally. Health, not the economy, comes first.

Trump did not fare well in the poll. A plurality of Americans — 49 percent to 45 percent — disapprove of the way the president has handled the pandemic. But that’s consistent with previous Yahoo News/YouGov polls. More telling were the specific questions about responsibility and trust. Fifty-nine percent of Americans rate their state and local government’s coronavirus response as “excellent” or “good”; only 48 percent of those who’ve heard from Trump in the last week say the same about him. Nearly half of Americans (49 percent) say they trust their governor more than the president to handle the pandemic; only a quarter (26 percent) say the opposite. Nearly three out of four Americans (74 percent) say their governor should decide when their state should reopen. Just 13 percent want Trump to make that decision. And even though Trump has argued otherwise, more than half of Americans (52 percent) say the federal government — rather than individual states (31 percent) — should be responsible for ramping up testing in the weeks ahead.

Overall, 65 percent of Americans say that Trump could have reduced the damage done by the coronavirus — either “a lot” (41 percent) or “somewhat” (24 percent) — if he had acted sooner.

In keeping with that finding, most Americans seem to take the long view in terms of transitioning out of lockdown. Two-thirds of Americans (67 percent), independents (66 percent) and Republicans (64 percent) say they will continue to practice social distancing even after official restrictions are lifted; just 13 percent of Americans say they will not.

Asked about specific social distancing measures, a large majority (72 percent) supports continuing to stay 6 feet away from other people whenever possible. Roughly half also support wearing cloth masks in public (50 percent), requiring restaurant waiters to wear masks and gloves (47 percent) and suspending large events like concerts and conferences (54 percent).

Meanwhile, a full 57 percent of Americans said they would support being repeatedly and regularly tested for the coronavirus in order to limit its spread after lockdown ends, and a plurality (39 percent) said they would install a smartphone app (like the one floated by Apple and Google) that would allow them to anonymously alert people who’ve been near them if they test positive for the virus — while also allowing them to be alerted if they’ve been close to someone else who tests positive. Both measures are key elements of the “test-trace-isolate” strategy that experts and epidemiologists have proposed for containing future coronavirus outbreaks.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost...s-aid-033517131.html

Harvard University, already supported by a massive $41 billion endowment, is getting nearly $9 million in taxpayer aid from the federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act, the U.S. Department of Education announced.

Under the terms of the payout from CARES’ Higher Education Emergency Relief Fund, at least half of the $8.7 million earmarked for Harvard must be reserved for emergency financial grants to students, according to the Harvard Crimson, which was the first to report the aid.

But at least some of that money — which could be used to cover tuition payments and course materials — would also end up in Harvard coffers. The funds would also likely be spent on extra technology, food and housing costs that students incurred amid “disruptions in their education” due to COVID-19, according to CARES provisions.

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if you are going to Harvard, you don't need my tax dollars

^^^ That's some fine writing right there, holy shit. The questions are biased, then further they twisted the article to say things that the survey didn't even ask.

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The survey, conducted April 17 to April 19, found that a full 60 percent of the public opposes the largely pro-Trump protesters whose calls for governors to “liberate” their states by lifting lockdown measures have attracted intense media attention in recent days

In the old days if you were going to write an article such as this it would be in the EDITORIAL section of the newspaper. This is not journalism, it's propaganda, at least label it editorial.

That poll is garbage...just more anti Trump crap from an organization that has opposed him from the start. They get the answers they want by the way a question is asked/worded

and from the people they poll.

decisions to open parts of the country should be made on a location by location basis and by doing a risk assessment

there are large areas of the country that are relatively unaffected, and could easily open up and get back to doing business with precautions

there are areas that should be walled off and filled with water

the problem is that the mental midgets running the show insist on a one-size fits all solution to a wildly varying landscape and thats what pissing the people off who are actually intelligent enough to do some critical thinking

I still don't believe anything thats been presented in the main stream media - they've been lying to us for 15 years, what proof do we have that they aren't still doing it?