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Article from the National Post, a Canadian newspaper.
(Not a conspiracy theory, simply some facts of possible relevance to the present topic.)
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Bio-warfare experts question why Canada was sending lethal viruses to China
'I think the Chinese activities … are highly suspicious,' one expert said, after it was revealed a Winnipeg lab sent samples of Ebola and henipavirus to China.


In a table-top pandemic exercise at Johns Hopkins University last year, a pathogen based on the emerging Nipah virus was released by fictional extremists, killing 150 million people.

A less apocalyptic scenario mapped out by a blue-ribbon U.S. panel envisioned Nipah being dispersed by terrorists and claiming over 6,000 American lives.

Scientists from Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) have also said the highly lethal bug is a potential bio-weapon.

But this March that same lab shipped samples of the henipavirus family and of Ebola to China, which has long been suspected of running a secretive biological warfare (BW) program.

China strongly denies it makes germ weapons, and Canadian officials say the shipment was part of its efforts to support public-health research worldwide. Sharing of such samples internationally is relatively standard practice.

But some experts are raising questions about the March transfer, which appears to be at the centre of a shadowy RCMP investigation and dismissal of a top scientist at the Winnipeg-based NML.

“I would say this Canadian ‘contribution’ might likely be counterproductive,” said Dany Shoham, a biological and chemical warfare expert at Israel’s Bar-Ilan University. “I think the Chinese activities … are highly suspicious, in terms of exploring (at least) those viruses as BW agents. “

James Giordano, a neurology professor at Georgetown University and senior fellow in biowarfare at the U.S. Special Operations Command, said it’s worrisome on a few fronts.

China’s growing investment in bio-science, looser ethics around gene-editing and other cutting-edge technology and integration between government and academia raise the spectre of such pathogens being weaponized, he said.

That could mean an offensive agent, or a modified germ let loose by proxies, for which only China has the treatment or vaccine, said Giordano, co-head of Georgetown’s Brain Science and Global Law and Policy Program.

“This is not warfare, per se,” he said. “But what it’s doing is leveraging the capability to act as global saviour, which then creates various levels of macro and micro economic and bio-power dependencies.”

Asked if the possibility of the Canadian germs being diverted into a Chinese weapons program is connected to other upheaval at the microbiology lab, Public Health Agency of Canada spokeswoman Anna Maddison said this week the agency “continues to look into the administrative matter.”

The agency divulged last week that it sent samples of Ebola and henipavirus — which includes Nipah and the related Hendra — to China in March. It was meant for virus research, part of the agency’s mission to back international public-health research, a spokesman said.

Last month, an acclaimed NML scientist — Xiangguo Qiu — was reportedly escorted out of the lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team. The agency said it was investigating an “administrative issue,” and had referred a possible policy breach to the RCMP. Little more has been said about the affair.

China has been a signatory to the Biological Weapons Convention since 1984, and has repeatedly insisted it is abiding by the treaty that bans developing bio-weapons.

But suspicions have persisted, with the U.S. State Department and other agencies stating publicly as recently as 2009 that they believe China has offensive biological agents.

Though no details have appeared in the open literature, China is “commonly considered to have an active biological warfare program,” says the Federation of American Scientists. An official with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defence charged last month China is the world leader in toxin “threats.”

In a 2015 academic paper, Shoham – of Bar-Ilan’s Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies – asserts that more than 40 Chinese facilities are involved in bio-weapon production.

China’s Academy of Military Medical Sciences actually developed an Ebola drug – called JK-05 — but little has been divulged about it or the defence facility’s possession of the virus, prompting speculation its Ebola cells are part of China’s bio-warfare arsenal, Shoham told the National Post.

Ebola is classified as a “category A” bioterrorism agent by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, meaning it could be easily transmitted from person to person, would result in high death rates and “might cause panic.” The CDC lists Nipah as a category C substance, a deadly emerging pathogen that could be engineered for mass dissemination.

Nipah, which was first seen in Malaysia in 1998, has caused a series of outbreaks across east and south Asia, with death rates mostly over 50 per cent, and as high as 100 per cent, according to World Health Organization figures. It can cause encephalitis, an often-fatal brain swelling, and has no known treatment or vaccine.

The Johns Hopkins exercise — called Clade X — involved a version of Nipah modified to be more easily passed between people. America’s Blue Ribbon Study Panel on Biodefence prefaced its 2015 report with a scenario involving the intentional release of Nipah by aerosol spray.

China’s extensive and controversial use of CRISPR gene-editing and related technology makes it conceivable the country could bio-engineer germs like Nipah to make them even more dangerous, Giordano said.

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It's all fun and games until the virus takes one of your legs.

Some Broadway actor (way off my radar) has reportedly had his leg amputated due to corona virus complations. Not yet sure of the truth of that claim, but it'll come to the surface eventually. Definitely troublesome if true. Sounds pretty sensational, though.

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An upper respiratory virus, hmmmm....
Any chance this Broadway actor has Diabetes?



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I can't speak to that specific case, but the MD discussion groups (my wife is an MD) are full of docs reporting bizarre complications that you would not expect to see from a respiratory virus.

There's no statistical information there - it doesn't mean that weird complications are happening a lot on a percentage-of-infections basis - but the virus does seem to sometimes cause all kinds of weird shit.
 
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An upper respiratory virus, hmmmm....
Any chance this Broadway actor has Diabetes?

That’s what I was thinking.


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Powersurge.

How about answering my question?

Why are you saying most if not all people on the planet will get it?

I'm not calling you out- I want to hear what you have to say.


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Peter Navarro: China 'cornered' the personal protective equipment market and 'is profiteering' during coronavirus outbreak

I hope to God a day of reckoning is due China. The world needs to band together against them. They are our #1 enemy and America and the world needs to wake up to this.


Its not true because 3M is exporting PPE throughout the western hemisphere. I mean they might be profiteering but they do no thave the market cornered!!
 
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Powersurge.
How about answering my question?
Why are you saying most if not all people on the planet will get it?
I'm not calling you out- I want to hear what you have to say.

I didn’t see your question until about 5 minutes ago when I read your above post and then went back and looked for it. https://www.theatlantic.com/he...ovid-vaccine/607000/


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Report: Trump Admin May Redirect W.H.O. Funding to Samaritan’s Purse, Red Cross

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...tm_campaign=20200419

The White House’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB) may redirect funds from the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) to charitable groups such as Samaritan’s Purse and the Red Cross, the New York Post reported Thursday.

On Tuesday, President Donald Trump ordered a 60-day hold on U.S. funding to the W.H.O., asserting the organization failed to vet information about the novel coronavirus coming out of China, and ultimately covered up the seriousness of its effects because of its friendly relationship with that nation.

The New York Post noted the funds would be redirected to charities, such as the Red Cross, and Christian organization Samaritan’s Purse, led by its president, Rev. Franklin Graham:

An administration official told The Post that efforts were underway to redirect “every single pot of money” from the WHO to other organizations. Large international relief organizations already are in many cases doing similar work, they said.

The administration official said that the White House Office of Management and Budget would send any necessary notifications to Congress when there are decisions to redirect funds, though in some cases that may be unnecessary.


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Powersurge.
How about answering my question?
Why are you saying most if not all people on the planet will get it?
I'm not calling you out- I want to hear what you have to say.

I didn’t see your question until about 5 minutes ago when I read your above post and then went back and looked for it. https://www.theatlantic.com/he...ovid-vaccine/607000/


An article with predictions, published two months ago. Great.

What about your own thoughts?

What percentage of "predictions" have already proven to be wildly off-base?


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^^. Doesn’t matter that the article is almost 2 months old. The coronaviruses, yes plural, don’t just go away. The common cold is a coronavirus. Over the next 1-3 years the majority of people are going to get it. And most people will be fine with or without a vaccine, if they’re even able to come up with one in that time frame.


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Another possible trillion dollars or more to the national debt during this covid lock down farce.

According to OANN, aoc, correction: omar (my wife gets them confused) is going to introduce a bill to pay towards every Americans mortgage or rent. Probably a few million illegals included for good measure.

She is bernie's favorite socialist after all.

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How come India hasn’t exploded like a fireworks warehouse? Over a billion people living in a dumpster.
 
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How come India hasn’t exploded like a fireworks warehouse? Over a billion people living in a dumpster.


India has been under (what appears to be, from news articles) one of the most aggressive lockdowns anywhere in the world since March 24th.

No one has any idea how many people are actually infected there because barely any testing is being done.
 
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One of my best friends is from the Gujaresh part of India. lives in Dallas now. I asked him about India and why we weren’t hearing more about it. His response: “Kevin, go to Calcutta on any particular day and there’s 300 people dead in the street. So now there’s 400. Nobody cares.”

Who knows if that’s right or not, but I thought it was an interesting take



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How come India hasn’t exploded like a fireworks warehouse? Over a billion people living in a dumpster.


India has been under (what appears to be, from news articles) one of the most aggressive lockdowns anywhere in the world since March 24th.

No one has any idea how many people are actually infected there because barely any testing is being done.


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Another possible trillion dollars or more to the national debt during this covid lock down farce.

According to OANN, aoc is going to introduce a bill to pay towards every Americans mortgage or rent. Probably a few million illegals included for good measure.

She is bernie's favorite socialist after all.


She is a damned lunatic.


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I asked him about India and why we weren’t hearing more about it. His response: “Kevin, go to Calcutta on any particular day and there’s 300 people dead in the street. So now there’s 400. Nobody cares.”

Who knows if that’s right or not, but I thought it was an interesting take

That would seem the obvious answer also.

If they aren't testing, they don't a copunt of how many are infected.

If their normal death rate bumps up a bit and most people are locked down, who would notice...it isn't like the folks living on top of each other would be going to the hospital anyway




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Is the Virus on My Clothes? My Shoes? My Hair? My Newspaper? 4-17-20 [ nytimes ]

We asked the experts to answer questions about all the places coronavirus lurks (or doesn’t). You’ll feel better after reading this.

When we asked readers to send their questions about coronavirus, a common theme emerged: Many people are fearful about tracking the virus into their homes on their clothes, their shoes, the mail and even the newspaper.

We reached out to infectious disease experts, aerosol scientists and microbiologists to answer reader questions about the risks of coming into contact with the virus during essential trips outside and from deliveries. While we still need to take precautions, their answers were reassuring.
 
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Current tally of signers on the Change. org petition to recall Wretchen Gretchen, the evil queen of Michigan:
290K + and rising.


Curious, what is the process for getting a recall vote and how many signatures have to be obtained?


I think I read 500,000

Her evil ass is in trouble


 
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Here is my big challenge with the pandemic. If you search articles or responses to questions the answers vary wildly. It seems like anyone with an opinion is publishing an article on what we should or shouldn't do. Every time and article is release with a direction, a counter article appears in days.

It is very difficult to tell what is accurate and what is opinion.




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