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Well the tests that are currently out only tell you if you currently have it, not if you have had it.


San Miguel county Colorado has been testing the residents for COVID antibodies for over three weeks.
 
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I've no doubt that much of the push for Mask and Glove use by regular people is Virus Theatre, to instill a sense of calm by way of perceived control and by "doing something".


On a recent Joe Rogan podcast with Eric Weinstein (disagree with his politics or not), he really goes off on the whole mask theater and suggests the malfeasance of CDC and the whole medical administration apparatus as regards PPE, orders to the public not to wear it early on, and now the critical shortages by those who actually need it (doctors and nurses)...now that they've told the public to wear it.

Interesting listen.


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^^ I'm beginning to wonder how much demand for testing is going to start coming from people who are actually eager to take the test because they're hoping they've already had it and may therefore be immune.

In my opinion, an antibody test should be what we’re focusing on and putting effort into. It should not only tell us who has had it, but also who’s bodies are fighting the virus. Once it is revealed that a huge number of people are no longer at risk (I’m in the camp that believes a whole bunch already had it), we can get everyone back to work and worry about treating the sick.




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My favorite gun store wants us to wear masks inside. I hope they don’t shoot me. Big Grin

 
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In my opinion, an antibody test should be what we’re focusing on and putting effort into. It should not only tell us who has had it, but also who’s bodies are fighting the virus. Once it is revealed that a huge number of people are no longer at risk (I’m in the camp that believes a whole bunch already had it), we can get everyone back to work and worry about treating the sick.


I would tend to agree. I firmly believe that my daughter brought it home from school in early/mid January as everyone in the house got sick with mild symptoms outlined here many times.

If we knew that I’d already had it and recovered I’d have no issue working someplace to benefit those at risk, as I’m sure many folks would.



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to instill a sense of calm by way of perceived control and by "doing something".

Then you should be happy they’re calming down and not cleaning out the ammo and toilet paper shelves in their frenzied panic buying—no?

We don’t have to believe something ourselves to benefit from it as long as enough other people do. I could cite many obvious examples, but that would annoy the many people who believe things I don’t. It is nevertheless true, and because we can benefit from their beliefs, what I don’t understand is why we would discourage them. Is the satisfaction we get from not even pretending to being prey to their uninformed superstitions more important than the tangible benefits of letting them try to improve the common good?

Oh I don't think it's any more dangerous or nefarious or whatever else to say that than it is speaking of the TSA as largely Security Theatre as so many so commonly do. It was a matter of fact sort of statement, really. Not some incendiary or smug blah blah. And I think a steady focus on non-theatre is important - no?

In a time of medical and scientific problems, superstitions and what feels good has little to no place, IMO.

Let's reason our way through this by sticking to facts and working the problem and doing what's needed.

And no more, really.
 
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My favorite gun store wants us to wear masks inside.
I'm not doing this. I'm not voluntarily wearing a mask, and I'm certainly not going to patronize a business which makes this stupid shit mandatory. I'm just not doing it.

People with no medical training of any kind are making idiotic, follow-the-leader, stupid fucking decisions which do nothing to help in this matter; quite the opposite, actually. Everyone just needs to cool it with behaving as if they're expert on the subject of communicable diseases, and they need to stop the fear mongering.
Reasonable precautions are called for, but, Goddamn, people. Get a fucking grip. Roll Eyes
 
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Chicago mayor's executive order grants coronavirus benefits to illegal immigrants


Friggin’ great. Guess who gets to help pay for this bullshit? I can’t stand Chicago.



Well, as long as they have the money to pay for those benefits, I see nothing wrong with it.

OH, wait... They're broke, as is the entire state. How's that going to work? Big Grin


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From the folks who brought you covid19...

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No idea if this is correct, but read this:

http://web.archive.org/web/202...-secret-91182386efcb
a good read - Thanks.
 
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When I pulled up, there was a Sheriffs Deputy waiting at the door to serve a summons to one of the techs. Said tech walks out to talk to Deputy. Some Goosesteppin' Karen walks right by my wifes open car window and screams at the tech and deputy that there needs to be 6' between them I watched as the lady roamed about the parking lot with her mask on looking for others to yell at. As far as I could tell, she had no business to be out. No groceries loaded into her car. No booze from the ABC store and she didn't have a pet either, so she wasn't there for the vet.


Number one. Why is there a deputy waiting to serve a summons on a vet tech?? As far as the masked lady looking for people to yell at really requires little if any explanation. Roll Eyes


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... as regards PPE, orders to the public not to wear it early on, and now the critical shortages by those who actually need it (doctors and nurses)...now that they've told the public to wear it.

That's utter bullshit. There's been a shortage of PPE nearly since the start.

Where do you think the average Jane or Joe is going to get this stuff, now? (Hint: There's none to buy in the retail chain.)

As for when wearing masks makes sense and when it doesn't: It's pretty simple: If you're going to be w/in spitting distance of people that may be infected and may sneeze, cough, or otherwise exhale the disease in your direction: A mask may be beneficial. Otherwise it's pointless.

I wear one when I go out shopping. My wife wore one to the vet's today. They can't hurt and they may help. We certainly don't wear them around the house or in the yard.



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... as regards PPE, orders to the public not to wear it early on, and now the critical shortages by those who actually need it (doctors and nurses)...now that they've told the public to wear it.

That's utter bullshit. There's been a shortage of PPE nearly since the start.

Where do you think the average Jane or Joe is going to get this stuff, now? (Hint: There's none to buy in the retail chain.)

As for when wearing masks makes sense and when it doesn't: It's pretty simple: If you're going to be w/in spitting distance of people that may be infected and may sneeze, cough, or otherwise exhale the disease in your direction: A mask may be beneficial. Otherwise it's pointless.

I wear one when I go out shopping. My wife wore one to the vet's today. They can't hurt and they may help. We certainly don't wear them around the house or in the yard.


That’s why I bought a big box of N95 masks in January when I started to get the feeling this could be bad. I’ve since given many of them to my cousins who are nurses in infected areas of hospitals. For some reason, my nurse friends and half of Facebook was shouting from the rooftops that masks don’t work.

Now they have people with underwear taped to their faces in the grocery stores.
 
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The tyrant running NJ just issued an executive order that you MUST wear a mask in a grocery store. Roll Eyes

This pandemic is really making these despots and totalitarians show their true faces.


 
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A recent trip through the drive thru at a local fast food joint amused me. The chick working the window was wearing disposable gloves. And she handled each cash or credit card without changing the glove. On your receipt is an order number for the day. When I went through, my order number was 117. So if we are contaminating each other, shouldn't she have put on new gloves for every transaction?


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Glad it wasnt just me, almost had to put the drink down. Big Grin



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