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One of the exceptions being stacking pallets of toilet paper in your garage or basement, which seems not to be a particularly effective therapy for preventing transmission of viruses, although certainly worthy of additional research.

I do that with ammo. It works for me.



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New York National Guard and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have built a 1,000 bed makeshift hospital in the Jacob Javits Convention Center in Manhattan

(same place Hillary Clinton held her 2016 election night "celebration")


Yeah, that image is a winner.


Philly was hammering away at the owners of the shuttered Hahnemann University Hospital but finally figured out something, Temple's Liacouras Center.

I've worked in the Philadelphia Convention Center. It's huge. you could place beds 12' apart and have room left over. Not sure why it was not selected.
 
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Interesting stat on the Dave Ramsey show this morning- the US has lost 100 jobs per case of this not-the-flu-flu. 100. Not 100 jobs per death. 100 per case. From a disease that the “experts” are now saying 81 percent will have mild symptoms. 99 percent will recover. And we have lost 100 jobs per case. And the longer we go with this ignorant, unConstitutional lefty power grab, the higher those numbers will soar. (That’s my description of what this is and not Dave’s)

Now, the virus’ defense attorneys here on the forum will question that statistic. They will call into question the source, and maybe even call Dave Ramsey a dirt bag because that kind of talk isn’t taking it seriously. But, he’s seldom wrong in his assessments.




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Posts: 37297 | Location: Logical | Registered: September 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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" She/he didn't write that....."

No they didn't. As my original post stated.

" and apparently doesn't even know the person who did."

irrelevant

"It was something copy and pasted off another forum."

As implied by "re-posted"

"Providing a link didn't seem like such a big deal."

You are correct on that but only because the link was irrelevant to my question. Of course there is the fact that MY link was a post by a friend. Did you want their phone number or address?

See, the thing is, this was a post by a friend of mine whom I tend to trust with regards to medical information as they are a medical professional. I don't expect them to shit post.

The information seemed legitimate to me, with my extremely limited experience having worked as a CNA/Nursing Tech in home health and nursing homes. The original intent of the post was to hopefully get an opinion from one of the forum medical professionals.

If you read the original post you might be able to take away that in the small percentage of patients that develop severe responses to the virus at least one doctor has found that some standard medical responses have to be altered due to the nature of this particular virus. This is not unusual but it is interesting to some of us.



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Yeah, my county has now succumbed to the "me, too" idiocy and declared all travel prohibited except for that which is necessary.

That's what they say. What do I say?

I SAY THAT I OWN THIS MELON FARMIN' GHOST TOWN!! WHOOOOOOOOO!!

Git yer motor runnin'
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way



 
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Originally posted by sdy:
New York National Guard and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have built a 1,000 bed makeshift hospital in the Jacob Javits Convention Center in Manhattan

(same place Hillary Clinton held her 2016 election night "celebration")

article and pics:

https://www.breitbart.com/heal...al-at-javits-center/

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tracking Cuomo's forecast from 24 Mar. He said the cases would double every 3 days. The first 3 day period has passed. It was a bit less than double. Cuomo says it has dropped to doubling every 4 days



NY and NJ combined account for 52% of the U.S. cases. All centered in NYC metro area/


I'm looking forward to seeing this updated.




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Looks like we've got us a runner.

Give him a night in the box.


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Iowa has suspended aluminum can redemption too. Hopefully the legislature tosses it. There have been attempts by the grocery and beverage lobbies but they've gone nowhere in the past years. People are going to litter, a 5 cent deposit isn't going to change that.

I picked up a lot of bottles for 2 cents a long time ago. It was like finding money on the ground. Gather up five and head to the neighborhood store for a candy bar.


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I can't imagine this convoluted interpretation to get the results they want would stand up in court.
Like the Obama-era EPA-driven Clean Water definitions? (Reversed by the Trump admin with a new definition of WOTUS)

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleas...-rule-new-definition

NY + Cuomo ... if disaster hits, it is Trump's fault. If they "dodge the bullet", it's because of Cuomo's fantastic leadership.
 
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tracking Cuomo's forecast from 24 Mar. He said the cases would double every 3 days. The first 3 day period has passed. It was a bit less than double. Cuomo says it has dropped to doubling every 4 days



I'm looking forward to seeing this updated.
I have this notion it'll come out about as predicted, even if Winston Smith* has to revise numbers.



*1984, in case the reference is obscure
 
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NY + Cuomo ... if disaster hits, it is Trump's fault. If they "dodge the bullet", it's because of Cuomo's fantastic leadership.
That's they way it's been for the past 3+ years.
 
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One more time, then I'll keep quiet on this issue.

The NY Metro area is where there is the greatest concern that there might not be enough hospital beds and ventilators. This issue is predicted to be critical in 2 weeks.

The degree of severity is a hot topic of debate and speculation.


The NY Metro area has 1.1 million illegals.

https://patch.com/new-york/new...ed-immigrants-report

This will become an explosive illegal immigration issue if American citizens are triaged out of hospital care while illegals are given hospital care.

This could become a prime example of what can happen if an area encourages illegals to come, and then an emergency causes a shortage of critical resources.
 
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Karma can be a bitch sometimes - but as NYC is a leftist sanctuary utopia, I'm sure they are more than capable to dealing with the problem they have created.
 
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Philly was hammering away at the owners of the shuttered Hahnemann University Hospital but finally figured out something, Temple's Liacouras Center.

I've worked in the Philadelphia Convention Center. It's huge. you could place beds 12' apart and have room left over. Not sure why it was not selected.


Hahnemann landlord wanted 1 million a month rent. Red Face Temple said use it for free. Kinda made it easy to choose. Why even bother to negotiate w/ convention center?


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Why Italy and Iran?

Italy and Iran have been two of the countries hardest hit by the Wuhan coronavirus, outside of China. Why? Helen Raleigh explains at The Federalist:

The reason these two countries are suffering the most outside China is mainly due to their close ties with Beijing, primarily through the “One Belt and One Road” (OBOR) initiative. OBOR is Beijing’s foreign policy play disguised as infrastructure investment. Here’s how it works:

China and country X agree to do an infrastructure project in country X. Country X has to borrow from a Chinese bank to finance the project. A contract is always awarded to Chinese companies, which then bring supplies and Chinese employees to country X to build the project.


As a result of One Belt and One Road, there are more than 300,000 Chinese living in Italy.

Almost exactly a year ago in March 2019, against warnings from the EU and the United States, Italy became the first and only G7 country to sign onto OBOR. As part of the deal, Italy opened an array of sectors to Chinese investment, from infrastructure to transportation, including letting Chinese state-owned companies hold a stake in four major Italian ports. …

Lombardy and Tuscany are the two regions that saw the most Chinese investment. Nearly a year later, the first Wuhan coronavirus infection case in Italy was reported in the Lombardy region on Feb. 21. Today, Italy is experiencing the worst coronavirus outbreak outside China, and Lombardy is the hardest-hit region in the country.


The Iran case is interesting as well:

2019 was the year Iran officially signed up to OBOR. China sees Iran as a crucial player to this initiative because Iran is not only rich in oil but also lies in a direct path of an ambitious 2,000-mile railroad China wants to build, which will run from western China through Tehran and Turkey into Europe.

Today, Iranian health officials trace the country’s coronavirus outbreak to Qom, a city of a million people. According to the Wall Street Journal, “China Railway Engineering Corp. is building a $2.7 billion high-speed rail line through Qom. Chinese technicians have been helping refurbish a nuclear-power plant nearby. ”Iranian medical professionals suspect either Chinese workers in Qom or an Iranian businessman who travelled to China from Qom caused the spread of the coronavirus in Qom.


News reports indicate that a number of high Iranian officials have contracted coronavirus, and I believe at least one or two have died. Raleigh explains:

Although on Feb. 1 the Iranian government banned its airlines from flying to China, it made an exception for Mahan Air, an unofficial airline for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The WSJ reported that Mahan Air “had carried out eight flights between Tehran and China between Feb. 1 and Feb. 9 to transfer Chinese and Iranian passengers to their respective home countries.” "This explains why so many high-level Iranian officials are infected by the coronavirus, including First Vice President Eshaq Jahangiri and more than 20 lawmakers."

Relying on China for economic development was never a good idea, but it turned out to be more dangerous than we knew.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/...y-italy-and-iran.php



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The NY Metro area has 1.1 million illegals.


Not for long.........................


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https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2...ttle-as-Five-Minutes

Abbott (NYSE: ABT) announced today that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the fastest available molecular point-of-care test for the detection of novel coronavirus (COVID-19), delivering positive results in as little as five minutes and negative results in 13 minutes. The test will run on the company's ID NOW™ platform, providing rapid results in a wide range of healthcare settings such as physicians' offices, urgent care clinics and hospital emergency departments.

https://www.abbott.com/corpnew...le-as-5-minutes.html

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Yeah, that M14 video guy...
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I went in to urgent care last night to have my lungs checked out. Although I'm feeling better than I did on Monday, I had a cough that was triggered by talking. They verified I had viral pneumonia in my right lung and I was sent to the ER. They tested me with the long brain ticklers and I'll know in 2 to 7 days if I have/had COVID or not.

No trouble breathing and an intermittent cough is my only symptom.

The doctors said that the tests they use are not always accurate and it could give a false positive or negative. They do not have confidence in the testing in this state (OR).

Either way, treatment is the same; go home and get better. They gave me a prescription for tessalon perles.

I'm in self-quarantine for at least a week and maybe two.

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France is having issues with the immigrant communities not following isolation rules. How does one police a no-go zone?

This creates pockets of infected people that can harbor the virus until the general population can move freely again, leading us back to square one.
 
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I wonder if its patented. How long till China will get the science, clone it, and deliver it cheaper? Also, a little worse. The last cycle with Czech subjects, it was only 80% inaccurate. Gotta wonder if they'll do better using our science.


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