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Some of you need to go outside for a walk, if you're in the south, you can inhale the yellow air



 
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Of course we will see a spike in positive tests because they are actually testing now, but even still we have just over a 100 cases.

Please see: Covid-19 in US and Canada: Real Time Updates With Credible Sources

Until that daily cumulative cases curve starts flattening-out they'll keep having to clamp-down harder.

Yeah... as of this writing, AirmanJeff's state of MD has 107 cases, up 22 from yesterday.
We are going to have to avoid personal contact for a while to slow this down. Hang in there.



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One person has died in the state so far. One. I just don't see what data they are using so make these decisions. Italy is not the U.S., not even close. Of course we will see a spike in positive tests because they are actually testing now, but even still we have just over a 100 cases.


Would you rather someone give you $1 million today, or a penny today, two pennies tomorrow, four pennies the next day, and so on, with the number of pennies doubling every day?

To help you with your decision, I'll point out that with the second option, after a week, you will have received total of a measly $1.27, and after two weeks, only $163.83. After three weeks, you're up to $20,971.51, which certainly isn't bad, but it's no million dollars.

On the other hand, at the end of the seventh week, there literally won't be enough hard currency on the entire planet to keep paying you because you'll already have it all.
 
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You guys expecting a market recovery are in for a wild ride. It’s headed to 20,000 , maybe even 18,000.


I posted the above in this thread on Feb 24th. Only 3 weeks later, the DJIA is under 20,000 points.


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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.

And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.

Ensigmatic,

Care to share your data analysis?


World o meter

Plenty of statistics and graphs to compare.


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Yes, the yellow virus of pollen.
 
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Trump just announced that chloroquine has gotten the approval from the FDA and will be pushed out.



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The movie theater industry, hit hard by the panic, is asking for a stimulus from the federal govt.

https://www.breitbart.com/ente...-due-to-coronavirus/


Screw them and their hate for America. Movie Theathres are not a necessity.
 
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.

And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.

Ensigmatic,

Care to share your data analysis?


World o meter

Plenty of statistics and graphs to compare.

Each graph (Italy versus USA) shows the opposite of the claim that was made. The number and slope of new cases, number of deaths and resolutions in the US over the same time are different. The numbers are even more dramatic if one takes into consideration the differences in total population between the two countries.
 
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Yes, the yellow virus of pollen.


That’s for sure. Slightly congested and dry cough during the day. Funny, it clears up when I go home and stay inside.
 
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.

And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.

Ensigmatic,

Care to share your data analysis?


World o meter

Plenty of statistics and graphs to compare.


He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 2 weeks or so behind Italy. We're actually seeing a larger increase by percentage, but we do have a lot more population than Italy. Also keep in mind we haven't had the test kits to test people in mass numbers like S. Korea did. Yesterday (March 18) was a 42% increase over the previous day, I attribute this to more test kits being available, my speculation.
 
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And I agree, screw the movie industry and the horse they rode in on.

I want to see all the items in this bill and who put them in. This earmark crap has to stop!!
 
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.

And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.

Ensigmatic,

Care to share your data analysis?


World o meter

Plenty of statistics and graphs to compare.


He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 3 weeks or so behind Italy.

Wrong, the data is over the same time period and says otherwise (look at the X and Y axes).
 
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It works by allowing zinc to disrupt the rna sequencing of the virus in the cell. Zinc will kill the virus. Zinc on its own is not readily available to do it. I saw a Dr. on YouTube explain it. I will try to find it. I think it was MedCram.


Chloroquine and Zinc

Doesn't zinc cause permanent Anosmia?


Mostly temporary and not by ingestion. Zinc nasal products cause Anosmia. But really, who cares if you test positive for COVID-19.


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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.

And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.

Ensigmatic,

Care to share your data analysis?


World o meter

Plenty of statistics and graphs to compare.


He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 3 weeks or so behind Italy.

Wrong, the data is over the same time period and says otherwise (look at the X and Y axes).


Data through yesterday.



Same curve, 10-11 days behind.
 
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.

And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.

Ensigmatic,

Care to share your data analysis?

World o meter

Plenty of statistics and graphs to compare.

He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 3 weeks or so behind Italy.

Guys, a word to the wise: Don't waste your time.

The last time I went around-and-around with Dakor, he'd make an assertion w/o substantiating data. I'd counter with substantiating data. He'd ignore my counter and make another assertion w/o substantiating data. I'd counter again, again with substantiating data. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Ain't goin' there with him again.



Now, it may be that the curve in the U.S. is as pronounced as it is at least in part, because of increased testing. Thing is: We don't know that. Until we do, I'd argue caution is prudent.



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The posted curve proved my point. It's not the same curve at all, is it? The trend appears the same but overlaying the data over the same time period shows it's different. If it's exactly the same, the data should be on top of one another but we're 10 to 11 days apart... so far. Extrapolating the analysis to include total population shows the rate of infectivity is far less in the U.S.

ensignmatic, appreciate your self portrait.
 
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Same curve, 10-11 days behind.
If we have the same number of cases as Italy, that's a win, considering we are 5.5 times larger.
 
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Now correct that graph based on total population for each country.


Total population is irrelevant to the rate of spread until/unless a sizeable percentage of the total population has been infected.
 
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