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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
March 19, 2020, 10:42 AM
BigSwedeWhen will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
Some of you need to go outside for a walk, if you're in the south, you can inhale the yellow air
March 19, 2020, 10:42 AM
chellim1quote:
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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:
Of course we will see a spike in positive tests because they are actually testing now, but even still we have just over a 100 cases.
Please see:
Covid-19 in US and Canada: Real Time Updates With Credible SourcesUntil that daily cumulative cases curve starts flattening-out they'll keep having to clamp-down harder.
Yeah... as of this writing, AirmanJeff's state of MD has 107 cases, up 22 from yesterday.
We are going to have to avoid personal contact for a while to slow this down. Hang in there.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor March 19, 2020, 10:44 AM
maladatquote:
Originally posted by AirmanJeff:
One person has died in the state so far. One. I just don't see what data they are using so make these decisions. Italy is not the U.S., not even close. Of course we will see a spike in positive tests because they are actually testing now, but even still we have just over a 100 cases.
Would you rather someone give you $1 million today, or a penny today, two pennies tomorrow, four pennies the next day, and so on, with the number of pennies doubling every day?
To help you with your decision, I'll point out that with the second option, after a week, you will have received total of a measly $1.27, and after two weeks, only $163.83. After three weeks, you're up to $20,971.51, which certainly isn't bad, but it's no million dollars.
On the other hand, at the end of the seventh week, there literally won't be enough hard currency on the entire planet to keep paying you because you'll already have it all.
March 19, 2020, 10:44 AM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by bubbatime:
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Originally posted by bubbatime:
You guys expecting a market recovery are in for a wild ride. It’s headed to 20,000 , maybe even 18,000.
I posted the above in this thread on Feb 24th. Only 3 weeks later, the DJIA is under 20,000 points.
Careful, you don't want to dislocated your shoulder.
March 19, 2020, 10:47 AM
smithnsigquote:
Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.
And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.
Ensigmatic,
Care to share your data analysis?
World o meterPlenty of statistics and graphs to compare.
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March 19, 2020, 10:48 AM
RHINOWSOYes, the yellow virus of pollen.
March 19, 2020, 10:52 AM
kkinaTrump just announced that chloroquine has gotten the approval from the FDA and will be pushed out.
March 19, 2020, 10:52 AM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by oddball:
The movie theater industry, hit hard by the panic, is asking for a stimulus from the federal govt.
https://www.breitbart.com/ente...-due-to-coronavirus/
Screw them and their hate for America. Movie Theathres are not a necessity.
March 19, 2020, 10:54 AM
Dakorquote:
Originally posted by smithnsig:
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.
And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.
Ensigmatic,
Care to share your data analysis?
World o meterPlenty of statistics and graphs to compare.
Each graph (Italy versus USA) shows the opposite of the claim that was made. The number and slope of new cases, number of deaths and resolutions in the US over the same time are different. The numbers are even more dramatic if one takes into consideration the differences in total population between the two countries.
March 19, 2020, 10:54 AM
BOATTRASH1quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Yes, the yellow virus of pollen.
That’s for sure. Slightly congested and dry cough during the day. Funny, it clears up when I go home and stay inside.
March 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by smithnsig:
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.
And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.
Ensigmatic,
Care to share your data analysis?
World o meterPlenty of statistics and graphs to compare.
He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 2 weeks or so behind Italy. We're actually seeing a larger increase by percentage, but we do have a lot more population than Italy. Also keep in mind we haven't had the test kits to test people in mass numbers like S. Korea did. Yesterday (March 18) was a 42% increase over the previous day, I attribute this to more test kits being available, my speculation.
March 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
BOATTRASH1And I agree, screw the movie industry and the horse they rode in on.
I want to see all the items in this bill and who put them in. This earmark crap has to stop!!
March 19, 2020, 10:58 AM
Dakorquote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
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Originally posted by smithnsig:
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.
And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.
Ensigmatic,
Care to share your data analysis?
World o meterPlenty of statistics and graphs to compare.
He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 3 weeks or so behind Italy.
Wrong, the data is over the same time period and says otherwise (look at the X and Y axes).
March 19, 2020, 11:00 AM
smithnsigquote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
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Originally posted by smithnsig:
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Originally posted by smithnsig:
It works by allowing zinc to disrupt the rna sequencing of the virus in the cell. Zinc will kill the virus. Zinc on its own is not readily available to do it. I saw a Dr. on YouTube explain it. I will try to find it. I think it was MedCram.
Chloroquine and Zinc
Doesn't zinc cause permanent Anosmia?
Mostly temporary and not by ingestion. Zinc nasal products cause Anosmia. But really, who cares if you test positive for COVID-19.
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TCB all the time...
March 19, 2020, 11:00 AM
maladatquote:
Originally posted by Dakor:
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
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Originally posted by smithnsig:
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.
And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.
Ensigmatic,
Care to share your data analysis?
World o meterPlenty of statistics and graphs to compare.
He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 3 weeks or so behind Italy.
Wrong, the data is over the same time period and says otherwise (look at the X and Y axes).
Data through yesterday.
Same curve, 10-11 days behind.
March 19, 2020, 11:01 AM
feersum dreadnaught
NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught"
March 19, 2020, 11:03 AM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
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Originally posted by smithnsig:
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Originally posted by Dakor:
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Italy is not the U.S., not even close.
And, again: It's been demonstrated numerous times the shape of the curve reflecting the advance of the disease in the U.S. is the same as what was seen in Italy.
Ensigmatic,
Care to share your data analysis?
World o meterPlenty of statistics and graphs to compare.
He is correct. U.S. is on the same curve as Italy, but 3 weeks or so behind Italy.
Guys, a word to the wise: Don't waste your time.
The last time I went around-and-around with Dakor, he'd make an assertion w/o substantiating data. I'd counter
with substantiating data. He'd ignore my counter and make
another assertion w/o substantiating data. I'd counter
again,
again with substantiating data. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Ain't goin' there with him again.
Now, it
may be that the curve in the U.S. is as pronounced as it is
at least in part, because of increased testing. Thing is:
We don't know that. Until we do, I'd argue caution is prudent.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher March 19, 2020, 11:08 AM
DakorThe posted curve proved my point. It's not the same curve at all, is it? The trend appears the same but overlaying the data over the same time period shows it's different. If it's exactly the same, the data should be on top of one another but we're 10 to 11 days apart... so far. Extrapolating the analysis to include total population shows the rate of infectivity is far less in the U.S.
ensignmatic, appreciate your self portrait.
March 19, 2020, 11:09 AM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by maladat:
Same curve, 10-11 days behind.
If we have the same number of cases as Italy, that's a win, considering we are 5.5 times larger.
March 19, 2020, 11:09 AM
maladatquote:
Originally posted by Dakor:
Now correct that graph based on total population for each country.
Total population is irrelevant to the rate of spread until/unless a sizeable percentage of the total population has been infected.