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I know you weren’t successful with your school board bid last year (are you running this year?)


Last year wouldn't have been our choice, but it's just how it worked out timing wise. Two incumbents that are very well known and who at the time were on the board for 48 years.

I'm running again this year along with two other mothers from our parents group. We have made it crystal clear that we gained a lot of valuable experience last year and we are coming no holds barred this time around. Three incumbents, who as of the other day have not filed to run again.


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Supt has been getting calls requesting that we adopt masking for INFLUENZA, since it was so bad in our area


Unbelievable. I also bet that those calling for it are not currently masking their kids. Why is it that these types are not only attempting to force others to do what they want, but won't do it themselves unless they are forced at their own request?


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A new Cleveland Clinic pre-print study posted Monday, titled “Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine.” Let me spoil it for you: They found the bivalent vaccine was NOT very effective. But guess what else they found?

The study observed over 50,000 Cleveland Clinic employees from the beginning of the pandemic. Let’s start with how the study ended, with this amazing concession of scientific ambiguity:

We still have a lot to learn about protection from COVID-19 vaccination, and in addition to a vaccine’s effectiveness it is important to examine whether multiple vaccine doses given over time may not be having the beneficial effect that is generally assumed.

Still have a lot to learn, eh? And here I thought the “science was settled.” Shows what I know, I’m just a lawyer. But why’d the Cleveland Clinic researchers admit that ambiguity? Because of the study’s most important finding:

Risk of COVID-19 increased with time since the most recent prior COVID-19 episode and with the number of vaccine doses previously received.

Holy jab juice, Batman. In other words, the more jabs, the more and faster the covid infections. The researchers weren’t prepared for that finding, or for the fact that the increased risk of catching covid was seen, not in decrepit, nearly-dead old people in care homes, but in young, healthy healthcare workers without co-morbidities:

The association of increased risk of COVID-19 with higher numbers of prior vaccine doses in our study, was unexpected. A simplistic explanation might be that those who received more doses were more likely to be individuals at higher risk of COVID-19. A small proportion of individuals may have fit this description. However, the majority of subjects in this study were generally young individuals and all were eligible to have received at least 3 doses of vaccine by the study start date[.]

Take a close look at the researcher’s chart, below. The Y-axis is the proportionate risk, based on the number of times people caught covid, and how often. The x-axis is the number of days from their first dose. The colored lines represent the number of doses received.



Over a 90-day period, participants with three or more doses faced a risk of catching covid up to SIX TIMES higher than the baseline. Six times higher, over just the first 90 days! But drop down to the zero doses line — the “unvaccinated” — and discover those lucky souls enjoyed the LOWEST risk of infection.

Weird. Seems backwards somehow.

Remarkably, every single dose of the “vaccine” proportionately INCREASED the risk of infections. That strongly suggests some kind of correlation. And it’s not how traditional vaccines work, not at all.

The Cleveland Clinic researchers mused about the unvaccinated and unboosted, which — amazingly — included almost HALF of the healthcare workers in the study. The researchers figured unvaccinated and low-vaccinated people were the ones most likely to NOT wear masks, isolate, or otherwise mitigate their risks but, despite being covid “risk takers,” they were STILL catching covid less often than their boosted co-workers:

[T]hose who received fewer than 3 doses (>45% of individuals in the study) were not those ineligible to receive the vaccine, but those who chose not to follow the CDC’s recommendations on remaining updated with COVID-19 vaccination, and one could reasonably expect these individuals to have been more likely to have exhibited higher risk-taking behavior.
Despite this, their risk of acquiring COVID-19 was lower than those who received a larger number of prior vaccine doses. This is not the only study to find a possible association with more prior vaccine doses and higher risk of COVID-19. A large study found that those who had an Omicron variant infection after previously receiving three doses of vaccine had a higher risk of reinfection than those who had an Omicron variant infection after previously receiving two doses of vaccine.
Another study found that receipt of two or three doses of a mRNA vaccine following prior COVID-19 was associated with a higher risk of reinfection than receipt of a single dose. We still have a lot to learn about protection from COVID-19 vaccination, and in addition to a vaccine’s effectiveness it is important to examine whether multiple vaccine doses given over time may not be having the beneficial effect that is generally assumed.

Alert commenters noted that, during animal trials for earlier failed coronavirus vaccines, the poor mice’s immune systems were completely destroyed. A strange coincidence. It makes you wonder. What do they call doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result? It’s called … what’s the word … I can’t think of it right now. But it’s not good.

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If you are sick, why would you go someplace to be around others in the first place? Screw these stupid chicom tests for crissakes



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Still have a lot to learn, eh? And here I thought the “science was settled.”

This has been my experience even before the newest, bestest concoction. During the delta surge, I recall “vaccinated” people I know personally getting sick, some more than once a year. One ended up in the hospital and then on a vent, and two co-workers experienced tingling and numbness in their legs; one of these was diagnosed with blood clots that pushed him to retire early.

This new development isn’t a shock- clear fuckery was expected, although I didn’t expect the rate of reinfection to increase with booster frequency. I more expected a scenario where boosters would be “required” every 2-3 months to avoid what they consider severe symptoms. But I’m sure some skeptic will be along that either finds this thread amusing or doubts the reality that these “vaccines” are obviously ineffective garbage




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If you are sick, why would you go someplace to be around others in the first place? Screw these stupid chicom tests for crissakes

Thank you!
Let's just unprocess the brain washing of the last 2 years and go back to living as normal people, shall we?
 
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Meanwhile in Canada, the children’s indoctrination continues…



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The comments are pure gold…




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Well, that was something.

Yes, that's what it was- something.
 
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Hey Para, check out that post count. That is a big milestone.




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Let's hope the forum software is P100K compliant... Wink


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A new Cleveland Clinic pre-print study posted Monday, titled “Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine.” Let me spoil it for you: They found the bivalent vaccine was NOT very effective. But guess what else they found?
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This is in keeping with a Swedish study I read several months ago regrading the impact of repeated SARS Cov-19 boosters and immunity.

their data indicated a reduction of immune response with repeated dosing with vaccine.

Bottom line: The science IS NOT settled and it would strongly appear that we have been sold several billion dollars worth of snake oil and bull shit.

I got the original J&J single dose vaccine and then elected to get not one more damn vaccination. Maybe this was a good decision per the CC study.

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I have to say that I just do not believe these stories coming out of China. In the first place, I don't believe a single word uttered by the Chinese Communist government, but beyond that, the claims of this sustained level of infection in that country defy logic, it seems to me.

Extra-Super-Mega-Death-COVID Hates China So Much!


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I have to say that I just do not believe these stories coming out of China. In the first place, I don't believe a single word uttered by the Chinese Communist government, but beyond that, the claims of this sustained level of infection in that country defy logic, it seems to me.

Extra-Super-Mega-Death-COVID Hates China So Much!


Karma is a bitch baby!

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If only the 'Extra-Super-Mega-Death-COVID' could somehow affect the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) in a comprehensive way...


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The vast number of deaths will be elderly which will suit the CCCP just fine. It’s the clild bearing/working age folks they will want to preserve. And let’s say the most recent model is correct and they sustain 2 million deaths. That adds up to 1/10 of 1%. The commie government couldn’t care less. In fact, the speed in which they dropped nearly all restrictions and controls makes me suspicious that they want to punish the people for daring to defy the government with protests that they be treated like human beings. I expect them to have a “we told you so” attitude when this is back under control, and never challenge the powers that be again.




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The China super covid has to be fake, look at the pictures, everyone's wearing a mask. Mask = no virus, right?


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The China super covid has to be fake, look at the pictures, everyone's wearing a mask. Mask = no virus, right?

A lot of people there wore masks even before Covid because the air pollution is so bad.

But I get your point.



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For airborne particulate pollutants, masks are actually not a bad idea. That’s what they were made for after all. For much smaller viral particles not trapped in large water droplets, we already know that even with N95 level filtration they are far less effective and create a false sense of security. China should be a perfect proving ground for this fact as most will wear masks of some kind, and Covid will spread like wildfire, even if people in the US still cling to their supposed iron clad usefulness.




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For airborne particulate pollutants, masks are actually not a bad idea. That’s what they were made for after all. For much smaller viral particles not trapped in large water droplets, we already know that even with N95 level filtration they are far less effective and create a false sense of security. China should be a perfect proving ground for this fact as most will wear masks of some kind, and Covid will spread like wildfire, even if people in the US still cling to their supposed iron clad usefulness.


Especially since the masks are made in China. Wink




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It is customary in Japan, and to a lesser extent in China to wear masks when sick to show that you are attempting not to infect others. It's cultural and not based in actual scientific research.

Masks for pollution in Beijing are used a bit, but it's not really common. Mostly when pollution levels are high. Beijing can have "pea soup" smog, and you smell it as soon as you exit the plane onto the jetway. One coworker wore a mask often and it did darken like the air filter on a car after a while. But then many Chinese are smokers which kind of defeats the purpose...

Many people I know in China have gotten COVID lately, mostly symptoms we would expect - cold/flu, fever, aches - and they recover fine. But they are working age - 20's to 40's mostly. I don't know elderly people so I am trying to find out what's really happening. The gov't and media will report high case numbers and minimal deaths to prove that they waited long enough for COVID to become weakened and that now it's just a cold/flu and no one is dying. No matter what, the numbers have to support the narrative. And propagandists on both sides will say all kinds of things.

Chinese generally go to the hospital whenever they are sick. That's just what they do. On social media you know someone is sick because they post a picture of an IV bag. Yep, go to hospital for cold/flu and they give you a saline IV for hydration. So when everyone with COVID goes to the hospital even though there is nothing they can really do unless you need to be admitted to ICU causes huge crowds and wait times. They also have "fever clinics" to triage before hospital due to try to manage the overrun.

When I am sick they always ask "did you go to the hospital?" Why would I? ER costs $3000+ and even a walk-in clinic at Dr. office rates ($75-$100) will just say "you have a virus" and to wait it out. I had headaches and one said "did you get an MRI?". Um, you need a Dr. to order an MRI and they better have a good reason or insurance will deny it, and it costs a LOT. In China you can walk in and get an MRI for less than $100.
 
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