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Bernie Sanders not so quick to dismiss emails. http://hotair.com/archives/201...llarys-damn-e-mails/ Afterward, many Democrats and political analysts said that he had appeared to dismiss her use of a private email account and server in her four years as secretary of state. Mr. Sanders rejected that assessment on Wednesday. If her email practices foiled public-records requests or compromised classified information, those are “valid questions,” Mr. Sanders said. … On the issue of Mrs. Clinton’s emails, Mr. Sanders didn’t say he regretted his debate remarks. “You get 12 seconds to say these things,” he said of the debate setting. “There’s an investigation going on right now. I did not say, ‘End the investigation.’ That’s silly.…Let the investigation proceed unimpeded.” ***************** Sanders statement in the debate about the "damn emails" was a huge mistake for him. | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
And here I was depressed because Unka Joe wasn't jumping in. Ramp it up, Bernie!! | |||
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HC did sign an SCI Nondisclosure Agreement. Here it is: http://freebeacon.com/wp-conte.../11/HRC-SCI-NDA1.pdf http://freebeacon.com/politics...-of-classified-info/ As the nation’s chief diplomat, Hillary Clinton was responsible for ascertaining whether information in her possession was classified and acknowledged that “negligent handling” of that information could jeopardize national security, according to a copy of an agreement she signed upon taking the job. A day after assuming office as secretary of state, Clinton signed a Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Agreement that laid out criminal penalties for “any unauthorized disclosure” of classified information. Experts have guessed that Clinton signed such an agreement, but a copy of her specific contract, obtained by the Competitive Enterprise Institute through an open records request and shared with the Washington Free Beacon, reveals for the first time the exact language of the NDA. “I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of SCI by me could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by a foreign nation,” the agreement states. Clinton received at least two emails while secretary of state on her personal email server since marked “TS/SCI”—top secret/sensitive compartmented information—according to the U.S. intelligence community’s inspector general. The State Department said in September that Clinton’s private email system, set up at her Chappaqua, N.Y., home, was not authorized to handle SCI. “I understand that it is my responsibility to consult with appropriate management authorities in the Department … in order to ensure that I know whether information or material within my knowledge or control that I have reason to believe might be SCI,” the agreement says. In addition to her SCI agreement, Clinton signed a separate NDA for all other classified information. It contains similar language, including prohibiting “negligent handling of classified information,” requiring her to ascertain whether information is classified and laying out criminal penalties. Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, Clinton’s two top aides, also signed copies of the classified information NDA. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
The question now is what the SCI says about penalties. It's not utterly unusual for .gov docs to say "you must do this" without there being a clear "or else", and that could give her some room to argue - at least before the press. | |||
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"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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I doubt very much that the proscribed penalties matter. Before penalties are meted out, there must be adjudication, before that a trial or hearings, and before that an indictment. Given the very high degree of politicization of the DoJ I do not think the AJ will indict the presumptive 2016 Democrat candidate for POTUS, especially since the current POTUS has given as his opinion that there was no harm done. No harm, no foul! One of my favorite quotes from the OJ trail was the guy on the street who said relative to OJ’s guilt; “He done the crime, but he not guilty”. To quote another fine progressive, Bill Ayers after his trial; “Guilty as hell, but free as a bird”. | |||
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Empress Palpatine | |||
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That pic could be a good attack ad. "Hillary Clinton in testimony about national security and the deaths of 4 Americans under Dept of State" | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
At this point they do, in terms of defining how bad her offense was. That, in turn, matters because we already know her defense - "it was no big deal, others do it all the time." | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Aaaawwwweffffffaaaaacccccqq. I been facepalmed by the 'beast. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Pertinent Andrew Napolitano editorial at this LINK.
Thanks, Sap | |||
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http://www.politico.com/story/...ly-classified-215599 The U.S. intelligence community has retreated from claims that two emails in Hillary Clinton’s private account contained top-secret information, a source familiar with the situation told POLITICO. However, after an initial version of this story was published Friday, a spokesman for Clapper indicated the issue had not been fully resolved. "ODNI has made no such determination and the review is ongoing," Clapper spokesman Brian Hale said. He declined to say if any changes had been made in recent days to the strict handling requirements for the disputed emails. "The initial determination was based on a flawed process," the source said. "There was an intelligence product people thought [one of the emails] was based on, but that actually postdated the email in question." State Department spokesman John Kirby said Friday he was unaware of any resolution of the classification issue regarding the messages McCullough's office said had been deemed "top secret." "As far as I know we’ve received no final decision by the intelligence community with respect to these two emails," Kirby said at a daily briefing for reporters. "As far as we know, that process is ongoing." ******************** confusing message this has the stench of Obama about it. No matter how much Obama may dislike the Clintons, now that Biden is not running, HC is the only game in town. The Dems have to protect her. | |||
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Also pertinent commentary at this LINK.
Thanks, Sap | |||
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From the judge's lips to God's ear. Would that not be absolutely wonderful. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Here comes oldroger the cynic again. There is no question in my mind that Hillary and Bill together and separately committed many felonies in the process of building the Clinton Foundation. Nor is there any question that Hillary knowingly committed felonies in her handling of highly classified materials. Hillary has been “getting away with it” since her service on the Nixon Impeachment Committee, she intends to continue doing so. The FBI might well recommend indicting her for several crimes----if so the recommendation will not be public. The AG is not about to indict Hillary without the permission of the AG’s boss the POTUS. So the AG will announce that the DoJ will not indict and the investigation is closed. The Congressional Dems will thank Hillary for her service, and the band plays on! Indicting Hillary with no plausible alternate available for 2016 would be a disaster and the Democrats all know it. What would they do; run John Kerry? Roger. | |||
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Most of us, myself included, labor under the reflex that this is a nation of laws that affect all of us equally. What you have described is the kind of systemic corruption that plagues 3rd world nations and eventually results in 3rd world conditions. See Mexico for illustration. I am guilty of having to be reminded that this is not the country I was told I lived in. We are not as free as we were told. We are not as equal as we were intended to be. If Hillary skates or is somehow pardoned like Nixon, I will know that we are a fallen society and not need to be reminded of our corrupted state ever again. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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^ At least now you are awake! I passed that ah shit we have been had point years ago. Spread the word and stay smart. Yes I too use to believe in that fairy tale. ------------------------------ Knowing is half the battle! "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Perhaps, but if Judge Nepolitano is correct (and I hope he is), he's suggested that if the FBI recommends indictment, and feels they have substantial evidence in support their charges, and the Just Us Department simply dismisses their recommendations, then the FBI will leak a substantial portion of their investigation to the public. If that happens, it becomes a shit storm the likes of which we haven't seen in years. It would also likely cripple ole Hill's campaign given few if any independents would vote for her after that. Personally, I'm going to hope Comey's FBI finds enough evidence of wrongdoing and negligence to make it virtually impossible for this criminal administration to sweep this under the rug. Fingers crossed. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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I have never been under the illusion Hillary was going to suffer any real ill effects from this and I have pretty much said so for the 75 pages of this thread. The Clinton history on these matters should be all anyone needs to know. Early on I thought perhaps she may have to drop out of the presidential race due to it but it would never be admitted as such it would have been due to a health issue or some other factor that would have forced her to do so. I never entertained any thoughts she would ever be indicted much less found guilty of anything. We don't even know the half of this scandal and never will. She is guilty of much more than what we even suspect imo. And, sadly, she very well could be the next President of the United States. I admire all of you who can remain optimistic and hold the belief that accountability and justice can still reach the same places that corruption and deceit do. I just can't fool myself anymore. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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