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Bernie Sanders not so quick to dismiss emails.

http://hotair.com/archives/201...llarys-damn-e-mails/

Afterward, many Democrats and political analysts said that he had appeared to dismiss her use of a private email account and server in her four years as secretary of state.

Mr. Sanders rejected that assessment on Wednesday. If her email practices foiled public-records requests or compromised classified information, those are “valid questions,” Mr. Sanders said. …

On the issue of Mrs. Clinton’s emails, Mr. Sanders didn’t say he regretted his debate remarks. “You get 12 seconds to say these things,” he said of the debate setting.

“There’s an investigation going on right now. I did not say, ‘End the investigation.’ That’s silly.…Let the investigation proceed unimpeded.”

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Sanders statement in the debate about the "damn emails" was a huge mistake for him.
 
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Big Grin And here I was depressed because Unka Joe wasn't jumping in. Ramp it up, Bernie!!
 
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HC did sign an SCI Nondisclosure Agreement.

Here it is:

http://freebeacon.com/wp-conte.../11/HRC-SCI-NDA1.pdf

http://freebeacon.com/politics...-of-classified-info/

As the nation’s chief diplomat, Hillary Clinton was responsible for ascertaining whether information in her possession was classified and acknowledged that “negligent handling” of that information could jeopardize national security, according to a copy of an agreement she signed upon taking the job.

A day after assuming office as secretary of state, Clinton signed a Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Agreement that laid out criminal penalties for “any unauthorized disclosure” of classified information.

Experts have guessed that Clinton signed such an agreement, but a copy of her specific contract, obtained by the Competitive Enterprise Institute through an open records request and shared with the Washington Free Beacon, reveals for the first time the exact language of the NDA.

“I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of SCI by me could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by a foreign nation,” the agreement states.

Clinton received at least two emails while secretary of state on her personal email server since marked “TS/SCI”—top secret/sensitive compartmented information—according to the U.S. intelligence community’s inspector general.

The State Department said in September that Clinton’s private email system, set up at her Chappaqua, N.Y., home, was not authorized to handle SCI.

“I understand that it is my responsibility to consult with appropriate management authorities in the Department … in order to ensure that I know whether information or material within my knowledge or control that I have reason to believe might be SCI,” the agreement says.

In addition to her SCI agreement, Clinton signed a separate NDA for all other classified information. It contains similar language, including prohibiting “negligent handling of classified information,” requiring her to ascertain whether information is classified and laying out criminal penalties.

Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, Clinton’s two top aides, also signed copies of the classified information NDA.
 
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The question now is what the SCI says about penalties. It's not utterly unusual for .gov docs to say "you must do this" without there being a clear "or else", and that could give her some room to argue - at least before the press.
 
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The question now is what the SCI says about penalties.



I doubt very much that the proscribed penalties matter.

Before penalties are meted out, there must be adjudication, before that a trial or hearings, and before that an indictment.
Given the very high degree of politicization of the DoJ I do not think the AJ will indict the presumptive 2016 Democrat candidate for POTUS, especially since the current POTUS has given as his opinion that there was no harm done.
No harm, no foul!

One of my favorite quotes from the OJ trail was the guy on the street who said relative to OJ’s guilt; “He done the crime, but he not guilty”.

To quote another fine progressive, Bill Ayers after his trial; “Guilty as hell, but free as a bird”.
 
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That pic could be a good attack ad.

"Hillary Clinton in testimony about national security and the deaths of 4 Americans under Dept of State"
 
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I doubt very much that the proscribed penalties matter.

At this point they do, in terms of defining how bad her offense was. That, in turn, matters because we already know her defense - "it was no big deal, others do it all the time."
 
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Pertinent Andrew Napolitano editorial at this LINK.

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More From The Hillary Chronicles——-Mistress of Deception
by Andrew P. Napolitano • November 5, 2015

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The self-inflicted wounds of Hillary Rodham Clinton just keep manifesting themselves. She has two serious issues that have arisen in the past week; one is political and the other is legal. Both have deception at their root.

Her political problem is one of credibility. We know from her emails that she informed her daughter Chelsea and the then-prime minister of Egypt within 12 hours of the murder of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, that he had been killed in Benghazi by al-Qaida. We know from the public record that the Obama administration’s narrative blamed the killings of the ambassador and his guards on an anonymous crowd’s spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muhammad video.

Over this past weekend we learned that her own embassy staff in Tripoli told her senior staff in Washington the day after the killings that the video was not an issue, and very few Libyans had seen it. We also know from her emails that the CIA informed her within 24 hours of the ambassador’s murder that it had been planned by al-Qaida 12 days before the actual killings.

Nevertheless, she persisted in blaming the video. When she received the bodies of Ambassador Stevens and his three bodyguards at Andrews Air Force base three days after their murders, she told the media and the families of the deceased assembled there that the four Americans had been killed by a spontaneous mob reacting to a cheap 15-minute anti-Muhammad video.

Clinton’s sordid behavior throughout this unhappy affair reveals a cavalier attitude about the truth and a ready willingness to deceive the public for short-term political gain. This might not harm her political aspirations with her base in the Democratic Party; but it will be a serious political problem for her with independent voters, without whose support she simply cannot be elected.

Yet, her name might not appear on any ballot in 2016.

That’s because, each time she addresses these issues – her involvement in Benghazi and her emails – her legal problems get worse. We already know that the FBI has been investigating her for espionage (the failure to secure state secrets), destruction of government property and obstruction of justice (wiping her computer server clean of governmental emails that were and are the property of the federal government), and perjury (lying to a federal judge about whether she returned all governmental emails to the State Department).

Now, she has added new potential perjury and misleading Congress issues because of her deceptive testimony to the House Benghazi committee. In 2011, when President Obama persuaded NATO to enact and enforce a no-fly zone over Libya, he sent American intelligence agents on the ground. Since they were not military and were not shooting at Libyan government forces, he could plausibly argue that he had not put “boots” on the ground. Clinton, however, decided that she could accelerate the departure of the Libyan strongman, Col. Moammar Gadhafi, by arming some of the Libyan rebel groups that were attempting to oppose him and thus helping them to shoot at government forces.

So, in violation of federal law and the U.N. arms embargo on Libya she authorized the shipment of American arms to Qatar, knowing they’d be passed off to Libyan rebels, some of whom were al-Qaida, a few of whom killed Ambassador Stevens using American-made weapons. When asked about this, she said she knew nothing of it. The emails underlying this are in the public domain. Clinton not only knew of the arms-to-Libyan-rebels deal, she authored and authorized it. She lied about this under oath.

After surveying the damage done to his regime and his family by NATO bombings, Col. Kaddafi made known his wish to negotiate a peaceful departure from Libya. When his wish was presented to Clinton, a source in the room with Clinton has revealed that she silently made the “off with his head” hand motion by moving her hand quickly across her neck. She could do that because she knew the rebels were well equipped with American arms with which to kill him. She didn’t care that many of the rebels were al-Qaida or that arming them was a felony. She lied about this under oath.

My Fox News colleagues Catherine Herridge and Pamela Browne have scrutinized Clinton’s testimony with respect to her friend and adviser Sidney Blumenthal. Recall that President Obama vetoed Clinton’s wish to hire him as her State Department senior adviser. So she had the Clinton Foundation pay him a greater salary than the State Department would have, and he became her silent de facto advisor.

They emailed each other hundreds of times during her tenure. He provided intelligence to her, which he obtained from a security company on the ground in Libya in which he had a financial interest. He advised her on how to present herself to the media. He even advocated the parameters of the Libyan no-fly zone and she acted upon his recommendations. Yet she told the committee he was “just a friend.” She was highly deceptive and criminally misleading about this under oath.

It is difficult to believe that the federal prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Clinton will not recommend that she be indicted. Inexplicably, she seems to have forgotten that they were monitoring what she said under oath to the Benghazi committee. By lying under oath, and by misleading Congress, she gave that team additional areas to investigate and on which to recommend indictments.

When those recommendations are made known, no ballot will bear her name.

Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written seven books on the U.S. Constitution. The most recent is Suicide Pact: The Radical Expansion of Presidential Powers and the Lethal Threat to American Liberty. To find out more about Judge Napolitano and to read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit http://www.creators.com.


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http://www.politico.com/story/...ly-classified-215599

The U.S. intelligence community has retreated from claims that two emails in Hillary Clinton’s private account contained top-secret information, a source familiar with the situation told POLITICO.

However, after an initial version of this story was published Friday, a spokesman for Clapper indicated the issue had not been fully resolved. "ODNI has made no such determination and the review is ongoing," Clapper spokesman Brian Hale said. He declined to say if any changes had been made in recent days to the strict handling requirements for the disputed emails.

"The initial determination was based on a flawed process," the source said. "There was an intelligence product people thought [one of the emails] was based on, but that actually postdated the email in question."

State Department spokesman John Kirby said Friday he was unaware of any resolution of the classification issue regarding the messages McCullough's office said had been deemed "top secret."

"As far as I know we’ve received no final decision by the intelligence community with respect to these two emails," Kirby said at a daily briefing for reporters. "As far as we know, that process is ongoing."


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this has the stench of Obama about it.

No matter how much Obama may dislike the Clintons, now that Biden is not running, HC is the only game in town.

The Dems have to protect her.
 
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Also pertinent commentary at this LINK.

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Crooks, thieves, and liars...but who cares?

The Clinton money-laundering machine

Charles Krauthammer said that he had no doubt some of the 30,000 e-mails Hillary deleted very likely had references to the Clinton Foundation's business, which would be illegal and a conflict of interest. Others say it is organized crime at its finest -- and we are financing it. This is a summary of how the Clinton Foundation works as a tax-free international money laundering scheme. It will probably eventuallyprove to be the largest political criminal enterprise in U.S. history.

This is a textbook case on how you hide foreign money sent to you and repackage it to be used for your own purposes. All tax free. Here's how it works:

1. You create a separate foreign "charity." In this case one in Canada.

2. Foreign oligarchs and governments then donate to this Canadian charity. In this case, over 1,000 did, contributing mega-millions. I'm sure they did this out of the goodness of their hearts, and expected nothing in return. (Imagine Putin's buddies waking up one morning and just deciding to send untold millions to a Canadian charity).

3. The Canadian charity then bundles these separate donations and makes a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation.

4. The Clinton Foundation and the cooperating Canadian charity claim Canadian law prohibits the identification of individual donors.

5. The Clinton Foundation then "spends" some of this money for legitimate good works programs. Unfortunately, experts believe this is on the order of 10%. Much of the balance goes to enrich the Clinton's, pay salaries to untold numbers of hangers-on, and fund lavish travel, etc. Again, virtually all tax free, which means you and I are subsidizing it.

6. The Clinton Foundation, with access to the world's best accountants, somehow fails to report much of this on their tax filings. They discover these "clerical errors" and begin the process of re-filing 5 years of tax returns.

7. Net result -- foreign money, much of it from other countries, goes into the Clinton's pockets tax-free and untraceable back to the original donor.

This is the textbook definition of "money laundering."

Oh, by the way, the Canadian "charity" includes as a principal one Frank Giustra. Google him. He is the guy who was central to the formation of Uranium One, the Canadian company that somehow acquired massive U.S. uranium interests and then sold them to an organization controlled by Russia. This transaction required U.S. State Department approval, and guess who was Secretary of State when the approval was granted?

As an aside, imagine how former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell feels. That poor schlep is in jail because he and his wife took $165,000 in gifts and loans for doing minor favors for a guy promoting a vitamin company. Not legal, but not exactly putting U.S. security at risk.

Sarcasm aside, if you're still not persuaded this was a cleverly structured way to get unidentified foreign money to the Clinton's, ask yourself this:

Why did these foreign interests funnel money through a Canadian charity?

Why not donate directly to the Clinton Foundation? Better yet, why not donate money directly to the people, organizations and countries in need?

This is the very essence of money laundering and influence peddling. Now you know why Hillary's destruction of 30,000 e-mails was a risk she was willing to take.


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By lying under oath, and by misleading Congress, she gave that team additional areas to investigate and on which to recommend indictments.

When those recommendations are made known, no ballot will bear her name.
From the judge's lips to God's ear. Would that not be absolutely wonderful.


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Here comes oldroger the cynic again.
There is no question in my mind that Hillary and Bill together and separately committed many felonies in the process of building the Clinton Foundation. Nor is there any question that Hillary knowingly committed felonies in her handling of highly classified materials.

Hillary has been “getting away with it” since her service on the Nixon Impeachment Committee, she intends to continue doing so.
The FBI might well recommend indicting her for several crimes----if so the recommendation will not be public.
The AG is not about to indict Hillary without the permission of the AG’s boss the POTUS. So the AG will announce that the DoJ will not indict and the investigation is closed.
The Congressional Dems will thank Hillary for her service, and the band plays on!

Indicting Hillary with no plausible alternate available for 2016 would be a disaster and the Democrats all know it. What would they do; run John Kerry?
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Here comes oldroger the cynic again.
There is no question in my mind that Hillary and Bill together and separately committed many felonies in the process of building the Clinton Foundation. Nor is there any question that Hillary knowingly committed felonies in her handling of highly classified materials.

Hillary has been “getting away with it” since her service on the Nixon Impeachment Committee, she intends to continue doing so.
The FBI might well recommend indicting her for several crimes----if so the recommendation will not be public.
The AG is not about to indict Hillary without the permission of the AG’s boss the POTUS. So the AG will announce that the DoJ will not indict and the investigation is closed.
The Congressional Dems will thank Hillary for her service, and the band plays on!

Indicting Hillary with no plausible alternate available for 2016 would be a disaster and the Democrats all know it. What would they do; run John Kerry?
Roger.


Most of us, myself included, labor under the reflex that this is a nation of laws that affect all of us equally. What you have described is the kind of systemic corruption that plagues 3rd world nations and eventually results in 3rd world conditions. See Mexico for illustration. I am guilty of having to be reminded that this is not the country I was told I lived in. We are not as free as we were told. We are not as equal as we were intended to be. If Hillary skates or is somehow pardoned like Nixon, I will know that we are a fallen society and not need to be reminded of our corrupted state ever again.



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At least now you are awake!

I passed that ah shit we have been had point years ago. Spread the word and stay smart. Wink

Yes I too use to believe in that fairy tale.


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The FBI might well recommend indicting her for several crimes----if so the recommendation will not be public.
The AG is not about to indict Hillary without the permission of the AG’s boss the POTUS. So the AG will announce that the DoJ will not indict and the investigation is closed.
Perhaps, but if Judge Nepolitano is correct (and I hope he is), he's suggested that if the FBI recommends indictment, and feels they have substantial evidence in support their charges, and the Just Us Department simply dismisses their recommendations, then the FBI will leak a substantial portion of their investigation to the public. If that happens, it becomes a shit storm the likes of which we haven't seen in years. It would also likely cripple ole Hill's campaign given few if any independents would vote for her after that.

Personally, I'm going to hope Comey's FBI finds enough evidence of wrongdoing and negligence to make it virtually impossible for this criminal administration to sweep this under the rug. Fingers crossed.


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I have never been under the illusion Hillary was going to suffer any real ill effects from this and I have pretty much said so for the 75 pages of this thread. The Clinton history on these matters should be all anyone needs to know.
Early on I thought perhaps she may have to drop out of the presidential race due to it but it would never be admitted as such it would have been due to a health issue or some other factor that would have forced her to do so.
I never entertained any thoughts she would ever be indicted much less found guilty of anything.

We don't even know the half of this scandal and never will. She is guilty of much more than what we even suspect imo.
And, sadly, she very well could be the next President of the United States.
I admire all of you who can remain optimistic and hold the belief that accountability and justice can still reach the same places that corruption and deceit do.
I just can't fool myself anymore.


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