This might be a minor point, but

http://www.washingtontimes.com...reside-multiple-ser/

Kendall is Clinton's lawyer

Here is how Mr. Kendall described the cleaning in a March 27 letter to the House committee.


“To avoid prolonging a discussion that would be academic, I have confirmed with the secretary’s IT support that no emails from hdr22@clintonmail.com for the time period January 21, 2009 through February 1, 2013 reside on the server or on any backup systems associated with the server. Thus, there are no hdr22@clintonmail.com emails from Secretary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State on the server for any review, even if such a review were appropriate or legally authorized”


In looking at the emails posted by the State Department, many (most ?) of HC emails are hrod17@clintonemail.com, not hdr22@clintonemail.

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Originally posted by domcintosh:
A strong distinction exists between what they've classified now, and what was classified at the time of transmission. We need less of hte former, and more of the latter to hang her properly.

True, but that's also why the fact that some docs were classified by agencies other than the State Department actually matters. From where they're sitting, those docs were classified before Hill ever saw them.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
From where they're sitting, those docs were classified before Hill ever saw them and leaked them to hackers all over the planet.

FIFY.

I hear you, but when dealing with weasels it's often best to go one step at a time.

Toner's comment was complete bureaucratic smoke screen.

Has the State Dept identified a single email that is now marked classified where they think it was unclass at time of origination ?

"They’ve said it’s not their job to second-guess the circumstances at the time."

this should tell you the guy is lying or totally incompetent.

She graduated from Yale Law. She is educated and intelligent.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politic...clinton-sorry-emai...

"I was not thinking a lot when I got in [to the State Department]. There was so much work to be done. We had so many problems around the world. I didn't really stop and think what kind of email system will there be."

She wasn't thinking? Are you freaking kidding me? She was thinking long and hard.
Not everyone sets up their own server. That takes thinking. That takes effort. That takes paying someone to maintain it.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

quote:

Originally posted by domcintosh:
A strong distinction exists between what they've classified now, and what was classified at the time of transmission. We need less of hte former, and more of the latter to hang her properly.

True, but that's also why the fact that some docs were classified by agencies other than the State Department actually matters. From where they're sitting, those docs were classified before Hill ever saw them.

That is the keystone I was trying to highlight. While things they are classifying now is a concern, I am more interested in the items that were classified at the time they were sent. The continual headlines "all these classified documents" in her emails is diluting the focus: the keystone should be the number of documents that were classified at the time of transmission, and how they got onto an unclassified system. From there transmission, it needs to be determined what systems they touched so that proper action for information Spillage can be taken.

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Classification is not a black and white issue,” department spokesman Mark Toner said this week.

Oh really?

Tell that to every as in each and every one of the 35+ .gov security personnel who ever spoke to me.

I don't take well to being threatened, but these folks had my undivided attention.

During her MSNBC interview, she stated:

quote:

" I was not thinking a lot when I got in (to the State Department)"

Keep it up on these soundbites Hillary, keep 'em coming.. You sound very presidential.

Link

On Drudge:
http://www.drudgereport.com/


HANDS OFF MY HUMA!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...defaming-people.html

So basically, she's sorry that the rest of us are so stupid.

Clinton ‘sorry’ for email confusion, stops short of apology for actions
Published September 04, 2015
FoxNews.com

Sorry – sort of?

Hillary Clinton said in an interview Friday that she’s “sorry” her use of personal email for State Department business has “been confusing to people,” but didn’t offer an outright apology for her actions.

“At the end of the day, I am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised a lot of questions, but there are answers to all these questions and I will continue to provide those answers,” Clinton told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell.

However, when asked earlier in the interview if she was sorry for her decision to use personal email for State Department business, Clinton hedged.

“Well, I certainly wish that I had made a different choice and I know why the American people have questions about it, and I wanted to make sure I answer those questions.”

The 2016 Democratic frontrunner went on to reiterate her claim that her use of email was “fully above board and allowed by the State Department,” but said that it would have been better if she had two accounts – one for personal and one for work use. She said she didn't "stop and think" which email system she should use.

The Republican National Committee quickly jumped on Clinton’s remarks.

“What’s clear is Hillary Clinton regrets that she got caught and is paying a political price, not the fact her secret email server put our national security at risk,” RNC spokesman Michael Short said in a statement.

“Hillary Clinton’s repeated distortions of her growing email scandal, which now involves an FBI investigation, and her refusal to apologize only reinforce why three-fifths of the country doesn’t trust her,” said Short.

In the interview, Mitchell also asked Clinton how she feels that a Quinnipiac poll found that the first words that came to mind among voters when asked about her were “liar,” “untrustworthy” and “crooked."

“Well it certainly doesn’t make me feel good," Clinton said. "But I am very confident that by the time this campaign has run its course people will know what I’ve been saying is accurate and I will have a chance to do that in front of the entire world with the congressional committee hearing.”

“They may disagree, as I now disagree, with the choice that I made but the facts that I have put forth have remained the same.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...apologize-for-usage/

Suddenly... from out of the fog... a bus!

Brian my lad, they just fed you to the wolves.

Need directions to a park?

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Foxnews.com Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton and her family reportedly paid a State Department staffer to maintain the private email server she used during her tenure as secretary of state.

The Washington Post, citing an unnamed campaign official, reports the arrangement helped Clinton maintain her personal control over the server that she used to conduct public and private business. The official also said it also ensure that taxpayers weren’t paying for the upkeep of the server that was shared by Clinton, her president and their daughter as well as former aides, the Post reports.
...
The Post reports the Clintons paid Pagliano $5,000 for “computer services” prior to him joining the State Department, according to a 2009 financial disclosure form he filed. After he arrived on the State Department’s staff in 2009, he continued to be paid by the Clinton’s to maintain the server, a campaign official and another person familiar with the arrangement told The Post.

When asked about whether former IT specialist had been paid privately to maintain the server, a State Department official said the agency “found no evidence that he ever informed the department that he had outside income,” The Post reports. This week, a different State Department official, couldn’t clarify to the newspaper Pagliano’s pay situation.

Pagliano reportedly didn’t list any outside income in the required personal financial disclosures he filed each year. The Post reports he remains a State Department contractor doing work on “mobile and remote computing functions,’ a State Department spokesperson said.

So why didn't this get raised a year ago?

Her "sorry" comment shows the utter disdain this woman has for us plebes and I hope she keeps talking because she just keeps digging a deeper and deeper hole!

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Originally posted by PASig:
Her "sorry" comment shows the utter disdain this woman has for us plebes and I hope she keeps talking because she just keeps digging a deeper and deeper hole!

Rush has talked about dem apologies before. Never true apologies, just sorry for how people misinterpreted.

Another detail in the drip drip drip of who did what.

http://www.politico.com/story/...screened-2016-213350

From Thursday testimony of Cheryl Mills:

Platte River Networks initially pulled emails off the server and sent them to Clinton's legal team.

how were the emails sent ? thumb drive ? Had to be electronic format because a word search was subsequently performed

this is a very important point. it means there is/was an electronic copy of all of the emails that is independent of the server

Heather Samuelson, a lawyer and 2008 Clinton campaign staffer, made the initial decision about which emails to preserve as federal records

Cheryl Mills and attorney David Kendall made the "ultimate" decision about which emails to preserve

whatever that means

Samuelson, 34, could not be reached for comment, and Kendall, Mills’ attorney, and the Clinton campaign did not respond to inquiries about who represents Samuelson or whether she has an attorney.


Heather Samuelson appears to have worked for Hillary Clinton almost her entire professional life since 2002.

Federal employees under current rules decide what emails they believe are federal records and should therefore be preserved on government systems — so in that regard, there is no rule requiring Clinton to have an independent source sort out which of her documents were personal and which were public records.

that may be true for general federal record keeping; it would not be true if it was suspected that classified material was on an unclassified computer or server with the potential of criminal prosecution

But for Judicial Watch and Trey Gowdy, we would be reading the comic sections right now, hoping something would happen to save us once more from the Hillary train wreck.

JALLEN,

If you happen to see this, I was wondering about your thoughts on the David Kendall letter to the House committee.

At the top of this page is a post that Kendall wrote:

"no emails from hdr22@clintonmail.com for the time period January 21, 2009 through February 1, 2013 reside on the server or on any backup systems associated with the server. Thus, there are no hdr22@clintonmail.com emails from Secretary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State on the server for any review"

I was suspicious of how Kendall worded that letter.

It is absolutely a fact that Hillary Clinton had email addresses other than hdr22@clintonmail on the server.

Also if an electronic copy of all 60,000 emails was made and given to Kendall, that would not fall under "reside on the server or on any backup systems associated with the server"

I hope the FBI demanded Kendall to turn over all electronic and hard copy media of the emails.

Just speculating, but if all of the emails were on something like a thumb drive, that drive would also had to have been "wiped" thoroughly to erase all of the emails.

If this is a thorough investigation, the computers / hard drives of Hillary Clinton, David Kendall, Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, Huma Abedin, and Jake Sullivan should all be examined. We are being focused on the server but this is a "target rich" environment.

I just hope that every path is being pursued by the investigative agencies. It is very clear that State Dept is not doing anything at all that is not ordered by some court or congress. State Dept is in all out cover up mode. Heads should roll. (figuratively of course)

Wouldn't Pagliano need to have a super high security clearance to set up and maintain this server for Hillary?
I have not saw this mentioned but might have missed it.

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Wouldn't Pagliano need to have a super high security clearance to set up and maintain this server for Hillary?

Why ?

Hillary proclaimed over and over there was no classified material on the server at her home.

Now in actual fact for anyone who had the slightest degree of common sense and honesty, the answer would of course be yes.

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Originally posted by sdy:
JALLEN,

If you happen to see this, I was wondering about your thoughts on the David Kendall letter to the House committee.

At the top of this page is a post that Kendall wrote:

"no emails from hdr22@clintonmail.com for the time period January 21, 2009 through February 1, 2013 reside on the server or on any backup systems associated with the server. Thus, there are no hdr22@clintonmail.com emails from Secretary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State on the server for any review"

I was suspicious of how Kendall worded that letter.

It is the truth, but not "the whole truth and nothing but the truth" because it appears to be calculated to anesthetize the reader into accepting it for that. Before we strung up Kendall for this apparent attempt at deception, let's remember who he is working for. Of course, being one of the most successful and sophisticated lawyers in the country, maybe he should have realized who he was working for, and maybe he did.

quote:

It is absolutely a fact that Hillary Clinton had email addresses other than hdr22@clintonmail on the server.

Also if an electronic copy of all 60,000 emails was made and given to Kendall, that would not fall under "reside on the server or on any backup systems associated with the server"

I hope the FBI demanded Kendall to turn over all electronic and hard copy media of the emails.

Just speculating, but if all of the emails were on something like a thumb drive, that drive would also had to have been "wiped" thoroughly to erase all of the emails.

If this is a thorough investigation, the computers / hard drives of Hillary Clinton, David Kendall, Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, Huma Abedin, and Jake Sullivan should all be examined. We are being focused on the server but this is a "target rich" environment.

I just hope that every path is being pursued by the investigative agencies. It is very clear that State Dept is not doing anything at all that is not ordered by some court or congress. State Dept is in all out cover up mode. Heads should roll. (figuratively of course)

If the crime is mishandling of classified information, then all should be investigated. It can be hard to investigate someone AND their lawyer, because some of the stuff may be claimed to be privileged communications. The others should be and are being questioned, and you can be sure that now, with the recent releases, those doing the digging are aware of the various e-mail addresses in use. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!"

I see Clinton claiming that "the State Department says it's ok, this is just fine" like they told her what to go. She was the Boss and was responsible for telling THEM what to do, as well as making sure they did it.