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Originally posted by sdy:
This example is from the State Dept site (open source) that shows the released emails so far.

2 interesting things

1. The subject line is "confidential"

That is true in ten other of the released emails.

Even if you want to indicate that something is sensitive, but not formally conf, it is very poor to send on govt unclass email systems any messages saying they are confidential.

2. Note that there is yet another commercial firm scanning her email

MailController.altohiway.com

A cautionary note: Confidential doesn't imply classified.

Well we knew it had to happen sooner or later. Her serve was likely as open as the new Wal Mart!

I hope the Koch brothers front the money!

RMD

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Originally posted by sdy:
http://www.washingtonexaminer....0000/article/2571207

New Hillary Clinton emails released from the State Department suggest that top aide Huma Abedin complained about her pay despite making more in total salary that President Obama.

In fact, an email from a State worker suggested that her complaints became a joke, according to the Clinton watchdog group and critic America Rising. One email cited by the Weekly Standard included this line: "To quote Huma, I don't get paid enough."

Huma Abedin was simultaneously receiving compensation from four separate pots of money:

1. State Department

2. Teneo Holdings

3. Clinton Foundation

4. Hillary Clinton's personal funds

Of these four, we know that from Teneo and the State Department, Abedin was earning AT LEAST $490,000.

But Abedin's outside clients included Teneo, an international strategic consulting firm co-founded by former Bill Clinton right-hand man Doug Band. She reportedly raked in $355,000 as a consultant to Teneo, while simultaneously pocketing $135,000 in government pay.


oh, do you remember that in 4 years she never took a day of leave at State Dept ? then she cashed in that saved up leave when she left.

She wasn't getting paid enough. It takes a lot to keep a weiner up!

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A cautionary note: Confidential doesn't imply classified

Dom,

If you work in an environment dealing with federal govt classified material, and you say something is "confidential", it is routine to interpret that as classified as confidential.

People outside the classified environment can, and do, use the term routinely to describe material that should be closely held independent of any classification issues.

State Dept people dealing with unclass and class networks would be expected to be sensitive to certain trigger words.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the...security-information

Sec. 1.2. Classification Levels. (a) Information may be classified at one of the following three levels:

(1) "Top Secret"

(2) "Secret"

(3) "Confidential"

Except as otherwise provided by statute, no other terms shall be used to identify United States classified information.

Hillary's plans to counter-attack HUSSEIN....

http://www.washingtontimes.com...me-to-counterattack/

By Monica Crowley - - Wednesday, September 2, 2015

Has the Clinton counterattack against President Obama begun?

The Clintons have never taken a political hit lying down. But given their weak and panicky reactions to Mr. Obama’s current, well-orchestrated hit on her — the FBI investigation into her alleged mishandling of classified material as secretary of state — they have appeared to passively absorb the escalating attack. Until now.

As he presses his attack, Mrs. Clinton has two choices. Option one: fold early and negotiate a mild end to the investigation in exchange for dropping out of the race. But Mr. Obama is not a forgiving sort, and now that he’s drawn blood, he’s likely to go for the kill.

That suggests that the Clintons are going with option two: fight him — as part of an elaborate, unspoken negotiation between them over their secrets and futures. That requires a plausible defense. Their go-to strategy has always been to blame others, or inanimate objects such as documents, servers, “processes” — and to designate a fall guy (or gal) to take the rap.

This is the well-worn path they now appear to be pursuing to try to escape Mr. Obama’s ever-tightening political and legal vise.

According to a well-placed source, the four known documents at the center of the FBI investigation are deeply problematic. (They came from a relatively small sample; with each new email dump, there are more questionable documents.) Some of the documents appear to have had no original classification markings.

A critical point: the federal government classifies by information, not by marking; that is, if a document contains obvious classified material, ie. information provided by a foreign government, it is automatically considered classified, even if it isn’t marked as such. Mrs. Clinton knew this — or should have. Further, the federal government could not classify material that originated with her since they had no access — or knowledge — of her private server.

Some documents have also been manipulated. Their classified markings have been removed or changed, which would explain why she has changed her public statements about what was in her possession — and when. Initially she claimed unequivocally that there “was no classified material.” She now says, “The facts are I did not send nor did I receive material marked classified.”

This appears to be the basis for her defense: that some of the documents’ classified markings were removed or changed — without permission — before she saw them.

By whom? There are only three people who were close enough to her to have had that kind of access: Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, Deputy Chief of Staff Jacob Sullivan, and her longtime Gal Friday, Huma Abedin.

Ms. Mills, Mrs. Clinton’s Valerie Jarrett and shadowy hatchet gal, is a lawyer, which may present evidentiary issues for the government as much of her communication with Mrs. Clinton may be privileged.

Ms. Abedin, who has had her own issues involving her husband, former Rep. Anthony Weiner, her family’s alleged ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, and her extracurricular employment activities while at State, is not a lawyer and may be more exposed. She lawyered up recently, but like Ms. Mills, she knows too much about the Clinton Foundation and Bill Clinton operations and how they mixed with Mrs. Clinton’s State Department (and server) to be sacrificed.

This leaves Mr. Sullivan, the outsider. If it’s true that he is cooperating with the FBI, Mrs. Clinton may try to smear him as a John Dean-style rogue, who either didn’t alert her to unmarked classified material or removed the markings himself and is now trying to save his own hide.

So: Mrs. Clinton may claim ignorance, blame the documents and her former lieutenant and dare Mr. Obama to charge ahead.

Sound familiar? It’s the Whitewater strategy. Mrs. Clinton knows how to manipulate documents and designate a chump. Like a game of Clue, the Whitewater documents were found years later in the study with Col. Mustard and a pipe. She got away with it then, but unlike Susan McDougal, Mr. Sullivan isn’t prepared to go to prison. Does he have a smoking gun, or is he merely providing a he said/she said scenario out of which they both will skate?

The Clintons must also go on offense, meaning possibly threatening Mr. Obama with her knowledge of any relationship he may have had with the Clinton Foundation donor network, the lies about Benghazi, and so on. Whether or not their side of this highwire negotiation works depends on what leverage they have against him.

It also means threatening anyone who gets in her way of the nomination. In a panicky attempt to scare off other contenders such as Vice President Joe Biden, she claimed that she already has substantial (but easily changeable) delegate support. While it may be tough for her to directly attack Mr. Biden, she may choose to attack others close to him to get him to think twice.

Can the old Clinton nuclear strategy work this time? Her poll numbers are dropping, and she has consistently underestimated her adversaries, Mr. Obama and Mrs. Jarrett, who have already activated their plan for a Joe Biden (or whomever else Mr. Obama may bless)- Elizabeth Warren ticket — which reportedly has Mr. Clinton “incensed.” They’re not in 1998 anymore.

If Mr. Obama holds the meaningful cards in this bloody negotiation, he may greenlight a special prosecutor or indictment of Mrs. Clinton. They are in a political death match, for their own futures, and the future of the party, the Obama revolution and the country. It won’t end until one side is destroyed.

In this “Game of Thrones,” it’s now “game on.”

If only her ass goes to jail like she should while bring down Obama with her. I could live a happy life with both of them behind bars.

Ms. Crowley, not a lawyer, does not understand the limitations of attorney client privilege.

It is nowhere near a King's X of complete silence.

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Originally posted by John Steed:
^^^^^^^^^^^ Or the hacker's claim may be a hoax.

More of a Clinton Style diversionary move in order to facilitate a path to denial and blackmail, claiming the emails are false and it's a "obama" or "GOP" smear tactic...

Occam's Razor, gents.

Follow the money.........

The WSJ printed an editorial yesterday opining that supporters of Obama have decided that they wish to retain control of the Democratic Party (after Obama) rather than turn the party over to the Clinton Camp. It seems that Hillary has not lined up nearly as many (crooked) campaign finance bundlers as BHO had at this point.
The Clinton Camp is viewed as ancient and out of touch by the newer progressive-socialist-digital Obamaites.

In other words an inter-party power struggle is going on. Seems a simple and straightforward explanation for what is a messy situation.

Confusion to our enemies!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Gowdy is concerned with the Rule of Law, and that puts him up on 99.5% of the charlatans in Washington.

No question about that. But when he is making law, he will side with the party over conservative principles. Same goes for Tim Scott.

Cheryl Mills testified to Gowdy's committee today. It was behind closed doors.

I think Jake Sullivan testifies tomorrow.

The Benghazi committee has 30 interviews to complete before Hillary Clinton testifies in a public hearing on October 22.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...nton-aides-testimony

Bryan Pagliano isn't talking to anybody.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics..._src=mail&soc_trk=ma

The former aide to Hillary Clinton who helped set up and maintain her private email server has declined to talk to the FBI and the State Department inspector general’s office , as well as a congressional committee, invoking his Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate himself, sources familiar with the investigation confirmed to Yahoo News.

It confronts the Justice Department with a decision about whether to grant him immunity in exchange for his testimony — a move that could be taken only were the department to escalate the probe into a full-scale criminal investigation, the sources said.

Pagliano’s earlier rebuffs to federal investigators, including the FBI, have not been previously reported.

Pagliano, who maintained the private email server in the basement of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, N.Y., was first contacted by the State Department inspector general’s office in June

But Pagliano — a potential key figure in the probe — declined to speak to the inspector general’s investigators, informing them through his Washington lawyer, Mark MacDougall, that he would invoke his Fifth Amendment right, the sources said.

Then, in late July, the State Department inspector general and the inspector general for the director of national intelligence referred the matter to the FBI counterintelligence division to determine if classified information was mishandled through the use of the private email server after finding evidence that classified information was communicated on emails sent through the server. But officials stressed at that time that the inquiry was an intelligence probe and not a criminal investigation.

At that point, the FBI also sought to question Pagliano and he again refused. His refusal to answer questions was communicated by his lawyer to senior lawyers in the counterintelligence section of the Justice Department’s national security division — one of whom had previously been in charge of the investigation into former CIA Director David Petraeus, the sources said.

Pagliano continued to maintain access to the private server “remotely” as well as paying occasional visits to the Clintons’ home to help maintain it,

MacDougall wrote its chairman, Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., a letter informing him that his client would not answer questions, citing the fact that the issue “is a subject of investigative activity by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice.”

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this really is infuriating

I know some are saying that Obama is pushing this investigation, but it sure looks like this is a mighty slow walk.

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It confronts the Justice Department with a decision about whether to grant him immunity in exchange for his testimony — a move that could be taken only were the department to escalate the probe into a full-scale criminal investigation, the sources said.

Would the guy, on advice of counsel, plead the Fifth if he didn't believe that the facts suggest an investigation is warranted?

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But Pagliano — a potential key figure in the probe — declined to speak to the inspector general’s investigators, informing them through his Washington lawyer, Mark MacDougall, that he would invoke his Fifth Amendment right, the sources said.

No doubt he has received that famous phone call from the noted lawyer and advisor W.J. Clinton pointing out that it would not be good for his health if he testified.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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It confronts the Justice Department with a decision about whether to grant him immunity in exchange for his testimony — a move that could be taken only were the department to escalate the probe into a full-scale criminal investigation, the sources said.

Would the guy, on advice of counsel, plead the Fifth if he didn't believe that the facts suggest an investigation is warranted?

Scooter Libby
Martha Stewart


Don't talk to investigators. Period.

So 30,000 self proclaimed "personal" emails were deleted, and later 30,000 "work" emails were deleted.

Yet through all this investigation we don't know who actually deleted the emails, exactly when they did it, and exactly how they did it.

Amazing.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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It confronts the Justice Department with a decision about whether to grant him immunity in exchange for his testimony — a move that could be taken only were the department to escalate the probe into a full-scale criminal investigation, the sources said.

Would the guy, on advice of counsel, plead the Fifth if he didn't believe that the facts suggest an investigation is warranted?

Scooter Libby
Martha Stewart


Don't talk to investigators. Period.

Sure, but there's a difference between sending someone to jail and initiating an investigation - which would make it possible to grant this dude immunity so his testimony could be compelled.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

Scooter Libby
Martha Stewart


Don't talk to investigators. Period.

Sure, but there's a difference between sending someone to jail and initiating an investigation - which would make it possible to grant this dude immunity so his testimony could be compelled.

I make my observation because those two cases make it clear you can be convicted of a felony for making inconsistent statements to investigators. Thus, saying nothing is the smart play today.

I thought that story about the Caucasian gal who pretended to be black and had to resign as head of the NAACP was the most entertaining story of the year, but was I wrong!

This is really starting to get down and dirty, and out of control big time.

I'm not to the point of counting unhatched chickens, but I can see the counter getting warmed up.