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Imagine Huma in handcuffs, being escorted to the back seat of a police cruiser. That would be a most excellent visual right about now. | |||
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Then imagine Huma negotiating an immunity deal for completely burying the Clintons. I would say that's a far better visual in my book. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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High standards, low expectations |
No immunity nonsense. Game theory.... you get 2 years if what you gives us leads to Clinton conviction, and 20 if you don't. Immunity is too good a reward to abolish their own crimes. The reward for hard work, is more hard work arcwelder76, 2013 | |||
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https://www.washingtonpost.com...774c1eaa5_story.html Top Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin has told people she is unsure how her emails could have ended up on a device she viewed as her husband’s computer, the seizure of which has reignited the Clinton email investigation, according to a person familiar with the investigation and civil litigation over the matter. The person, who would not discuss the case unless granted anonymity, said Abedin was not a regular user of the computer, and even when she agreed to turn over emails to the State Department for federal records purposes, her lawyers did not search it for materials, not believing any of her messages to be there. When Abedin left the State Department, she signed a statement saying she had “surrendered to responsible officials all controlled or administratively controlled documents and materials with which I was charged or which I had in my possession.” The State Department — in the process of collecting Clinton’s and others for records and Freedom of Information Act purposes — later asked Abedin to turn over relevant messages, and she gave her laptop and BlackBerry for review. | |||
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Coin Sniper |
OOPS... guess the whitewash missed one. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
From the NY Times... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10...er-clinton.html?_r=0 A Scandal Too Far? Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton, and a Test of Loyalty In the summer of 2013, Hillary Clinton had just left the State Department and returned to New York. She planned a quiet year, basking in sky-high approval ratings and enjoying a respite from the media spotlight as she laid the groundwork for a second presidential run. Then Carlos Danger happened. Anthony D. Weiner, the husband of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin, was running for mayor of New York when news broke that he had continued to exchange lewd messages with women online after the practice cost him his congressional seat. This time, he used the embarrassing Spanish-inspired moniker. The tawdry story line and Ms. Abedin’s closeness to Mrs. Clinton made the events explode far beyond New York, dragging Mrs. Clinton’s name into messy headlines about penis pictures, Mr. Weiner’s descriptions of his sexual appetites and his online paramour named Sydney Leathers. Now, with Mrs. Clinton seemingly on the cusp of winning the White House, Mr. Weiner, who once described himself as “a perpetually horny middle-aged man,” has pulled her into another drama. Federal investigators looking into his sexual messaging with an underage girl stumbled upon thousands of emails potentially pertinent to the F.B.I. inquiry into Mrs. Clinton’s private email server. The jolting development highlighted not only the intersecting lives of Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Mr. Weiner, but also the pattern that has characterized the Clintons’ relationships with the sometimes oddly behaving inhabitants of their insular world: Even amid accusations of sexual or financial impropriety, the Clintons’ first instinct is to hunker down and protect those in their orbit, sometimes leading to more ugly eruptions later and, eventually, to messy public breakups. On Friday, several of Mrs. Clinton’s friends and allies suggested she distance herself from Ms. Abedin, a painful prospect given that Mrs. Clinton has described Ms. Abedin as a surrogate daughter and has relied on her more than anyone else during her nearly two-year pursuit of the White House. The two women’s closeness has both intimidated those in the Clinton circle of status-conscious advisers and caused envy. Even as Mrs. Clinton learned on Friday that the F.B.I.’s interest in her email server, which she thought had ended in July, had reignited, Ms. Abedin was by her side as she prepared to make a statement to the news media in Des Moines. Pressed by a reporter there about the emails’ having been discovered during the investigation into Mr. Weiner’s sexting, Mrs. Clinton dismissed the reports as “rumors.” “We of course stand by her,” her campaign chairman, John D. Podesta, said on Saturday when asked if whether Ms. Abedin would step down from the campaign. Mrs. Clinton has always been circumspect about Mr. Weiner and her feelings toward him. She has steadfastly supported Ms. Abedin, 40, as the younger woman stood by her husband, despite the public ridicule and career damage that resulted from his behavior. The Clintons have never publicly criticized Mr. Weiner. It was only two months ago that Ms. Abedin announced that she was separating from her husband, after she learned that The New York Post planned to publish a story reporting that Mr. Weiner had sent a picture of his crotch to a woman online as he lay next to the couple’s 4-year-old son in bed. Mrs. Clinton was vacationing in the Hamptons at the time and stayed away from the story. Privately, aides to Mrs. Clinton suggested on Friday that Ms. Abedin would remain alongside Mrs. Clinton for the final, breakneck stretch of the campaign. But some senior Democrats are now wondering whether, if Mrs. Clinton is elected, she will be able to bring Ms. Abedin along with her for what was once widely expected to be a senior role in the White House. Mrs. Clinton’s loyalty to Ms. Abedin (and vice versa) stems from the decades they have spent working closely together, beginning when Ms. Abedin was a 19-year-old intern to the first lady in the 1990s. At the State Department, Ms. Abedin served as deputy chief of staff to Mrs. Clinton. Emails released by the State Department captured the closeness of their relationship. A jet-lagged Mrs. Clinton once emailed Ms. Abedin at 12:21 a.m. to take her up on an offer to come over to Mrs. Clinton’s house for a chat. “Just knock on the door to the bedroom if it’s closed,” she wrote. Ms. Abedin’s loyalty and strong identification with both Clintons was conspicuous at the State Department. At a staff meeting in early 2009, she was going through a list of requests from “the president.” When others in the room looked at her in puzzlement, Ms. Abedin clarified: “Not President Obama. Our president: Bill Clinton.” Ms. Abedin’s high profile and proximity to Mrs. Clinton also brought her scrutiny. Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, has questioned Ms. Abedin’s arrangement to earn income privately while she worked for Mrs. Clinton at the State Department. In addition to being on Mrs. Clinton’s personal payroll, Ms. Abedin received money from the Clinton Foundation and Teneo, a consulting firm co-founded by Douglas J. Band, a former senior aide to Mr. Clinton. And some of Ms. Abedin’s emails on Mrs. Clinton’s private server led to accusations that foundation donors had received special access to the State Department. Through it all, Mrs. Clinton and her longtime adviser Philippe Reines have fiercely protected Ms. Abedin. Mrs. Clinton played a part in introducing Ms. Abedin and Mr. Weiner, then a brash and outspoken Democratic congressman from New York. In August 2001, the young congressman asked Ms. Abedin, then an aide to Mrs. Clinton in the Senate, if she would go out for a drink. Standing behind Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin waved her arms at her boss and shook her head “no.” “Of course all you young people should go out,” Mrs. Clinton said. Mr. Weiner eventually won Ms. Abedin’s affections in January 2007, when he sat between Mrs. Clinton and her rival, then-Senator Barack Obama, at President George W. Bush’s State of the Union address. “I appreciate you looking out for my boss,” Ms. Abedin texted him. They went out for coffee and were married in July 2010; Mr. Clinton performed the ceremony. Ms. Abedin and Mrs. Clinton’s personal lives have in some ways taken parallel tracks, with each woman choosing to forgive her husband’s humiliating transgressions. Others close to Mrs. Clinton have not been as understanding. On a campaign conference call the day that Mr. Weiner admitted he had continued to engage in online liaisons, Mr. Reines berated him, yelling that he would “reach through the phone” and “rip out” his throat, adding an expletive. On Saturday, Ms. Abedin was working from the campaign’s Brooklyn headquarters rather than traveling with Mrs. Clinton on a campaign swing in Florida. Mr. Reines, who is not officially on the campaign’s staff was, however, accompanying Mrs. Clinton. Some advisers to the Clintons were exasperated earlier this year to learn that Mr. Weiner and Ms. Abedin were bringing about another distraction: The couple had permitted a behind-the-scenes documentary about Mr. Weiner’s circuslike mayoral bid to be made, resurrecting the sexting stories once again. But deciding how to handle the current situation could be especially difficult. Cutting out employees who prove politically damaging may seem like Politics 101, but for the Clintons, it has never been easy, particularly when it comes to their oldest and most loyal aides. Ms. Abedin and Mr. Band both started as White House interns, spent their formative years working for the Clintons and ultimately brought unwelcome headlines to their bosses. Before the email news broke on Friday, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign was answering questions about Mr. Band’s private consulting firm, Teneo, and its ties to the Clinton Foundation. “I think voters, first of all, understand that Hillary Clinton is the candidate that’s on the ballot, not Doug Band,” her campaign manager, Robby Mook, told reporters on Friday. It remained to be seen whether he would soon need to say the same of Ms. Abedin. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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I have a very particular set of skills |
I could be completely off the mark here, but I suspect that there's a chance that this was orchestrated by HilLIARy and her gang. I think it's a safe bet that both she and DT are getting a lot more information than the general public is on how things are going voting wise. Perhaps, seeing the election slipping away, they decided to have the FBI 're-open' the investigation now, less than two weeks before Nov 8. Rather than her just losing straight up, now she can claim that it was due to the 're-opening' of an investigation (otherwise, her victory was a lock...a sure thing ). And Comey thinks he has a prayer at saving his job with the soon-to-be prez. 'Look, I DID go after her...' I dunno, perhaps a bit far fetched, but in this election, nothing seems off the table, and does seem to be a double whammy for them. I also find it almost improbable that: 1. Her plane didn't have WiFi...that's like saying Bill Gates didn't have Windows on his computer with 11 days to go in an election. Not to mention security needing to stay in communication as well. 2. I don't think for a second that Comey did this without anyone knowing...with all her friends in high places, from the white house down, that just doesn't seem possible at all. As I said a couple days ago...you can bet MSM is already getting the 'The emails, Benghazi, Klinton Foundation, FBI, etc...it was just too much for this great candidate to overcome...' spin arranged. In my time zone, Saturday Night Live, with the last two monologs spoofing DT and basically saying Hil was gonna win, is a repeat tonight...and I think this is only about the third episode for the new season....hmmmm. BOSS A real life Sisyphus... "It's not the critic who counts..." TR Exodus 23.2: Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong... Despite some people's claims to the contrary, 5 lbs. is actually different than 12 lbs. It's never simple/easy. | |||
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Do the next right thing |
You think the harpy screaming about "why aren't I 50 points ahead?" is going to concede anything? | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
There's no need for me to ask you if you wish to be taken seriously as a legitimate member of this forum. Let me put it to you this way- it angers me to see complete crap like you've just posted in this forum. There are plenty of places online where you can find people posting wild, ridiculous speculation. Perhaps you should visit some of those places if you feel the need to engage in silly fantasies. I hope you've gotten it out of your system, because the next time you post nonsense like this in this forum, you're going to lose your posting rights for seven days. That stuff has no place here and I'll not be associated with it. I trust and hope I've made myself clear. | |||
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Get busy living or get busy dying! |
When I first heard of this I thought "Oh my, this has got to be good!" My theory (if anyone cares) is that Weiner knew the laptop or device had incriminating material on it all along. During his and Huma's separation, he was not going to be overly helpful and remind her of the laptop. The proverbial ace up the sleeve. When he tried to get help from Clinton Inc regarding his current plight, he was probably spurned (their allegiance is tighter with Huma and he is disgraced) so he made damn well sure that the device was "discovered" by the FBI. It was either a try for leniency or "take that bitches!" I would like to think he is smart enough to set it up, but I'm not sure............ | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Man oh man. Huma Abedin did'n do nuffin. Abedin reportedly pleads ignorance of how emails at center of latest Clinton probe got on computer "Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin reportedly has said she does not know how tens of thousands of emails related to the FBI investigation of her boss' personal server were found on a laptop she shared with her now-estranged husband, former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner." Cowardly! How can she expect anyone to believe this? Just who does Abedin think we might believe forwarded those emails, if not she herself? If it wasn't her, it would have to be Hillary Clinton. "Stronger together"? I think not. More like | |||
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Festina Lente |
Ok, I have the headline of the paper I want to see Trump holding up on November 9... Hillary Gets Schlonged by Wiener October 29, 2016 OK, I had to go with this. Personally, I’d rather go with another essay, one entitled “Gangster Governance” but events are rapidly spinning out of control. That being said, we don’t have to be snarky and salacious but the endemic corruption of the Clinton campaign can’t be divorced from her personal immorality and venality. It’s all of a piece if you ask me. I mean, look at what we found out the other day from Wikileaks: that her flunkies have to “sober her up” at 4:30 in the afternoon! My God! I know alcoholics and drunkards who have the decency to wait until 5:00 pm before they take their first drink! And here she is besotted by the mid-afternoon. Then there are the perverts that she surrounds herself with –Anthony Wiener being the most egregious example, her husband being another. Then there are credible allegations of lesbianism on her part (credible if you believe Yoko Ono). More will come out in due time. More will be written about later but time constraints on my part are overriding at this point. For now, I’d like to finish with this point: it’s ironic that the first Clinton Administration was enabled by an October Surprise when the Justice Department indicted Caspar Weinberger while now the second (erstwhile) Clinton Administration is likewise impeded by an indictment from the Justice Department. http://www.monomakhos.com/hill...schlonged-by-wiener/ NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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I have never seen anyone person have some much trouble with wieners. | |||
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Cruising the Highway to Hell |
Not trying to defend any of these commie democrats, but what is the possibility that Weiner copied the emails as an insurance policy for himself? “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Who cares if he did? That's all the more incriminating to Huma and Clinton, the fact that they were so careless with classified information that this pervert had free access to it. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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I have a question. Weiner's electronic devices have already been seized,so there is already a valid warrant. Why does the FBI have to wait on the Justice Department to obtain another warrant? _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I believe because it's for a completely separate case. Surely a lawyer can clarify. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Tucker Carlson just trashed Martin O'Malley in a live interview over Clinton. It was great. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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I believe that I read somewhere in this thread that to send or receive the government emails on a device the email address must be on a "white list" of email addresses entered into the email address of the device. Obama said that he had no knowledge of Hillary using a private server and the Clinton email address. My questions is this....If someone has to be on the "white list" to access email then who added the Clinton address to Obama's device and why didn't they catch the issue then(s)? I've set up hundreds of email addresses and there is no way (that I am aware of) to add an email address unless you look at it?!? If Hillary was so stupid about email who updated her devices? Did the person(s) adding/updating these government officials devices have the proper clearance and if they did then they had to know what they were doing was wrong. There are so many things that don't make sense with this email/server scandal and the mounds of people that probably had access to documents. | |||
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Abedin and Weiner, the clock is ticking. | |||
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