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A Grateful American
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"What Hamas did is bad, no one is arguing that. ..."

WTF? People all over the world arguing exactly that, moron.

I am not defending what Israel is doing. They seem to be doing a damned fine job of "defending" HAMAS to the furthest depths of Hell, all by they lonesome.




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Here goes the Biden Administration undermining Israel again.

Israel Could Face 'Strategic Defeat': Pentagon Chief Unleashes Controversy With Rare Warning

https://www.zerohedge.com/mili...ace-strategic-defeat

Without doubt, military superiority belongs to Israel, and yet Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has raised eyebrows by saying Israel faces a "strategic defeat" if it doesn't reduce civilian casualties in Gaza. The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says over 15,200 - mostly women and children - have died since the start of the war.

The White House has questioned the official death count from the Palestinian side; however, even by conservative estimates, civilian deaths are in the multiple thousands. In a recent New York Times article entitled "Gaza Civilians, Under Israeli Barrage, Are Being Killed at Historic Pace" (which proved controversial), the Times said more civilians have died in Gaza since Oct. 7 than have died in Ukraine after nearly two years of grinding war with Russia.

Lloyd Austin focused his Saturday comments on the long-term effects of mass civilian slaughter and not only the coming global backlash, but the potential for further radicalizing an entire population:

"The center of gravity is the civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy, you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat," Austin said in a speech at the Reagan National Defense Forum in Simi Valley, Calif., on Saturday.

The secretary added that he has personally pushed Israeli leaders to avoid civilian casualties, prevent violence to settlers in the West Bank.

"We will continue to press Israel to protect civilians and to ensure the robust flow of humanitarian aid,” he added. —The Hill

Despite this very rare commentary and warning, Austin still emphasized US will remain Israel’s "closest friend in the world" and American support will never waiver. He said Washington's backing of Israel remains "crystal clear."

More at link


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Any civilian deaths are the result of so called Palestinians and Hamas Israel doesn’t target innocents. Hamas hides behind them and Palestinians protect Hamas. It is either weak mindedness or passive aggression to think otherwise.



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The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says over 15,200 - mostly women and children - have died since the start of the war.



Yeah, that's horseshit.


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The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says over 15,200 - mostly women and children - have died since the start of the war.



Yeah, that's horseshit.


Someone with skills could make up a pie chart with more details.

8% Collateral damage
32% Hamas fodder
60% Propaganda deaths


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"The center of gravity is the civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy, you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat," Austin said in a speech at the Reagan National Defense Forum in Simi Valley, Calif., on Saturday.


Newsflash: Virtually every adult in Gaza is already in the arms of the enemy. Virtually every "child" over age 10 has been thoroughly programmed to be a future terrorist.

Israel isn't driving anybody into being a terrorist who wasn't already.
 
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We can expect more of this from now on, I suppose. The American people are going to have to accept what is happening and why it is happening, and fight back. The people must fight back, but more importantly, government at all levels is going to have to be proactive in order to stop this shit.

We might as well anticipate suicide bombers before too long. Believe me- I don't want to be predicting such things, but right now, we are weak and complacent. We must make changes.

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Well that didn't take long.

Las Vegas 'lone wolf' terror attack foiled by FBI, police


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Lol, dang.



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Here goes the Biden Administration undermining Israel again.

Israel Could Face 'Strategic Defeat': Pentagon Chief Unleashes Controversy With Rare Warning

https://www.zerohedge.com/mili...ace-strategic-defeat


If only the administration could read this thread -- it's very simple. You're either for the existence of Israel. Or you're not. All this noise is worthless. Put up or shut up.




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Here goes the Biden Administration undermining Israel again.

Israel Could Face 'Strategic Defeat': Pentagon Chief Unleashes Controversy With Rare Warning

https://www.zerohedge.com/mili...ace-strategic-defeat


If only the administration could read this thread -- it's very simple. You're either for the existence of Israel. Or you're not. All this noise is worthless. Put up or shut up.


Isn't it painfully obvious that they are not for Israel, and they couldn't care less about us?

When they put up, they will do it by doubling down on communism.

I honestly think this election is going to possibly be the last one for this country in its current form. Might not even be a bad thing since this system is corrupt almost beyond repair.

Strange days.
 
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When Shapiro was AG in PA before he became the guv here, crime in Filthydelphia and other major cities spiked because he and the big city DA’s and other top-guv lawyers sat with their thumbs shoved up their asses and failed or declined to prosecute or dished out soft and short sentences.

In an article that I read earlier today, maybe the one that wcb6092 or PASig posted above or possible from Breitbart, reported that NO arrests were made during the protest which included violence and the destruction of the property of the falafel owner.

Unfortunately we have seen this play out over and over again for the last three years in democrat shit-hole cities and enclaves, but now it is going to get worse and spread wider as tptb prove themselves to be absolutely useless in their duties and responsibilities.


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StateDeptSpox : "It seems one of the reasons they (Hamas) don't want to turn (Israeli) women over that they've been holding hostage… is they don't want these women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody"

https://hotair.com/tree-huggin...-hamas-again-n596608

Ofelia Roitman, 77, who was brutally kidnapped on Oct 7 from her home and was released from Hamas captivity, said she was held hostage alone, at a home of a Gazan couple with children, all of them held her hostage.

Just another family home in Gaza used as a Hamas terror base.
 
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...age-in-gaza-n2631998

A teacher with the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) reportedly held an Israeli hostage taken captive by Hamas on Oct. 7 in an attic.

The teacher, a father of 10 children, kept the hostage for almost 50 days, barely provided food, and neglected the hostage's medical needs, Israeli Channel 13's Almog Boker reported Wednesday. A Gazan doctor also held another hostage, according to Boker.

A spokeswoman for the UNRWA acknowledged the allegations but declined to comment.

The Israel Defense Forces says troops operating in the northern Gaza Strip have located dozens of rockets hidden under boxes with UNRWA markings in a residential home, and other weaponry belonging to Hamas.

Troops of the 7007th Reserve Battalion were searching a home in a neighborhood when they found a room full of boxes bearing the logo of the UN agency that supports Palestinian refugees.

Underneath the boxes, dozens of rockets, mortars and other explosives were found, the IDF says.

CNN: A survivor of Hamas captivity said he was held hostage by an UNRWA teacher. What's UNRWA's response?

UNRWA: I can speak about the flour that UNRWA delivers.

CNN: Does it bother you that an UNRWA teacher held somebody hostage?

UNRWA: Every bag of flour is cross-referenced.
 
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Wtf?

Demons.


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Biden is the primary obstacle to Israeli victory

https://www.jns.org/biden-is-t...-to-israeli-victory/


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I haven’t the slightest doubt that the “humanitarian aid” shipments flowing into Gaza are laden with weapons. Palestinians cannot be trusted, despite what anyone says. They are as complicit as Hamas at this point.




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Biden is the primary obstacle to Israeli victory

https://www.jns.org/biden-is-t...-to-israeli-victory/


And yet most Jews will vote for him.
 
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Because they are JINO's. Nothing more, much worse.



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I haven’t the slightest doubt that the “humanitarian aid” shipments flowing into Gaza are laden with weapons.
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I would’ve guessed that the Israelis are inspecting those shipments. In any case, Hamas is running low on personnel, rather than weapons.



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