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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
I dig Kern County, but wouldn't that be kind of a cruel thing to do to the people in Napa and Sonoma Counties who are actually working, producing something of value, and paying their bills without public assistance?

Maybe we could compromise and let both of those guys immigrate into our new Non-California nation.

Pelosi has a winery in Napa, just sayin....

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Originally posted by Deqlyn:
Pelosi has a winery in Napa, just sayin....

Nasty. What is it, so that I may avoid it?

Interesting. Would California keep the military bases? I am sure war would start quickly over water.

apparently she owns two...

Zinfandel Lane Vineyards and Skellenger Lane Vineyards

I'm only entertaining this for fun. There is no way California will secede. But, were they to do so, how long do you think it would be before Ca. was invaded? Think about it. Without the federation Ca. is alone to defend itself......with what? It would need a navy, an air force, an army etc. From what brave body of non patriots would it draw the men and women? Those who actually would secede are likely pajama boys. Pacifists. Idealists. They are not fighters. The few who are would be wiped out on the first day of an invasion. And where will they get the equipment?

This is not to mention the other services Ca. receives from being a State. Cut off the water. Cut off the power. Cut off the subsidies. How much income would the dotcoms get from those they divorced once bad will has been created? Cut off the money.

This talk from the secessionists is nothing more than a temper tantrum. Like moving to Canada, they will never get beyond pouting and holding their breath. Let them cry themselves to sleep. They'll feel better after a nap.

^^^Plus the people with guns may be secretly supporting the Feds from behind enemy lines.

Thus the idea raised here some time ago - let them secede, invade, rewrite the laws under the occupation, and readmit the state to the union.

Maybe we could make the Peninsula a hippie reservation or something, too. I'd love to see what a hippie tribal policeman would look like.

I've often pondered annexing Cuba after Castro died and his brother was executed. Maybe all of those Leftists who love beach front property and tropical weather could be moved there as well as Jamaica, Haiti/DomRep and Puerto Rico. Let them have the whole region. Moved the non Leftist revolutionary locals into the US. Do some improvements on the islands so Pajama boy doesn't get homesick. Now go and sin no more. Then we could get back to peace and prosperity. Anyone who pukes Leftist garbage from that point, gets sent to the islands.

Gaining a bit of steam....

More Californians dreaming of a country without Trump: poll
http://www.reuters.com/article...ession-idUSKBN1572KB

One-third of Californians support Calexit

Reuters has a poll out which found a surprising number of Californians are ready to secede from the union now that Donald Trump is president:

One in every three California residents supports the most populous U.S. state’s peaceful withdrawal from the union, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll, many of them Democrats strongly opposed to Trump’s ascension to the country’s highest office.

The 32 percent support rate is sharply higher than the last time the poll asked Californians about secession, in 2014, when one-in-five or 20 percent favored it around the time Scotland held its independence referendum and voted to remain in the United Kingdom.

California also far surpasses the national average favoring secession, which stood at 22 percent, down from 24 percent in 2014.

There is already a move to get Calexit on the ballot in 2019. Here’s a sample of the pitch:

In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children…

In 2016, the United Kingdom voted to leave the international community with their “Brexit” vote. Our “Calexit” referendum is about California joining the international community.

Reuters write up on its poll results does not break the responses down by party but it does indicate the support for secession is especially strong among disillusioned Democrats. It would be interesting to see what percentage of California Democrats are ready to bolt the United States because of Trump.

Of course California isn’t the only state which has flirted with abandoning the U.S. Prior to the election, Public Policy Polling, which often asks gag questions intended to embarrass Republicans, found that 40% of Texans would consider secession if Clinton won the election.

This still sounds like a fringe idea but the numbers suggest a lot of regular people on the right and the left are open to it. If the country continues to polarize, you have to assume the states which represent the far ends of the political continuum—California, Texas and maybe New York—could eventually see this become a majority opinion.

http://hotair.com/archives/201...ans-support-calexit/

Fine with me. Just start the wall moving north. Will I need a visa to sit here at work in El Segundo?

Please. Leave.

Do they really subsidize the other states?

Good, I'll ship all the CA miscreants that moved to CO back to their new country.

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Originally posted by roberth:
Good, I'll ship all the CA miscreants that moved to CO back to their new country.

It makes you wonder that *if* such an event came about, what a yuge magnet CA would become for all of the "special" people to seek their safe-space refuge to from all the other States. I can just about hear the huge sucking sound now!

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Originally posted by tanner:

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Originally posted by roberth:
Good, I'll ship all the CA miscreants that moved to CO back to their new country.

It makes you wonder that *if* such an event came about, what a yuge magnet CA would become for all of the "special" people to seek their safe-space refuge to from all the other States. I can just about hear the huge sucking sound now!

It should the Hotel California though. Checkout any time you like, but you can never leave.

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Originally posted by argolfer:
Do they really subsidize the other states?

Cali libs tend to have an over inflated view of their place within the economy. Yea, yea...GDP numbers will be tossed out (generated by them of course). I was once told by a state rep here that CA provided 75% of all vegetables to the US. As a resident of the midwest who flies daily across this Country looking out the window...I found this laughable. Unless there are several hundred growing layers in the Central Valley that cant be seen from the air....

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I'm only entertaining this for fun. There is no way California will secede. But, were they to do so, how long do you think it would be before Ca. was invaded? Think about it. Without the federation Ca. is alone to defend itself......with what?

Uh, the russians. The chinese. Any # of despots in the Pacific theater...

I have quite a few here I would like to send to the new state.

Let them try.

Then we raise a massive army, invade, destroy all of their ability to be self-sustaining, kill one third of the population, starve another 10% to death, take private property for failure to pay taxes, have President Trump appoint people to rule a balkanized state, end all government assistance, and keep it that was for two generations.