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Don't Panic |
Sadly, anyone in the Oval Office would have to channel their inner Abraham Lincoln and stop Calexit, if only as a practical and strategic military matter. Right now, we have two weak, friendly countries on our border, and anyone unfriendly would have to to come through our Navy and Air Force to get within a thousand miles. The US could not let go control of that territory without getting outflanked by anyone who wanted to ally with a nation of Calexit who wanted to put up bases to 'protect' Calexit from its larger neighbor, i.e. us. Russia might be quick to at least offer to guarantee Calexit's borders, and possibly China and PRK as well. You think nukes in Cuba were risky? Air bases, army bases, some great harbors, and with the population centers buffered from other states by mountains and deserts and forests. Tough ground campaigning would be ahead. So, yeah I hear their angst and I understand the instinct to be rid of the progressives and their guaranteed leventy-billion blue electoral votes, but I really can't see it being a good idea. That said...if 70-80% of the current residents wished to be citizens of some other country, via their own personal Calexits...I got no problem with that. Maybe 5-10% of them already are citizens of some other country, you know, so that'd be a sort of homecoming for that group.  | |||
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This would be great! Then all the stupids in OR and WA could move south and it would be a long time before D's would even come close to winning an election. That's a cause I can get behind. Give them everything south of San Fran and West of Fresno. Tony. Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici |
Much wisdom and truth in this. _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | |||
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Telecom Ronin |
Ok...this is a good start. Next give Chicago to Canada....we would have to lie to Canada for them to take it, maybe tell them it's Wisconsin or the UP. Then the 5 boroughs can become the new Liechtenstein.....albeit a dirtier version. OR give it to the UN...yea that's the ticket....just build a DMZ similar to Korea so they cannot escape. There you go....a cleaner USA | |||
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I work with a lot of people who lived in california decades ago that continually praise how "great it is" 30 or 40 years ago. They don't live there, can't afford to live there and haven't lived there for decades. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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 Regards, Will G. | |||
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| Made from a different mold  |
Dammit Joel, you just sucked all the fun out of it! ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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| No double standards |
We are semi-planning our personal "Calexit", hopefully by this time next year. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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delicately calloused |
What needs to happen is for California to be split up. It is too big for its britches. I know they think that the size of their economy makes them invaluable to the point that they must be continually courted and caressed. They think that they can impose their perspective and goals on the rest of the nation. Truth be told a Calexit would destroy both parties. There is no way California could endure and prosper completely isolated. There is no way the rest of the nation would want to lose that coastline and other resources. Calexit talk is just a tantrum. Writing them off with a terse middle finger is really just spite. Calexit will never happen. If it got far enough the US govt. would put the movement down like a rabid dog. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Patent Pending |
This election showed that there is a large proportion of the United States that is fed up with being lectured by the left. The other forty nine states could possibly boot California into the sea. ************************************************* NRA Life Member Capital punishment means never having to say, "You again?" | |||
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| No double standards |
Mother nature might take care of that. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
They are right. When I was ordered to a duty station in San Diego in 1968, I thought it was fantastic. Ronald Reagan was Governor, the sun was shining, the birds were singing, the surf was up. Lots of pretty nurses to terrorize, good roads, not too crowded, etc. When I left 3 years ago, it had become a socialist hellhole. Thankfully, Prop. 13 had put some limits on the bureaucrat's appetite and some limits on property taxes, hideous though they were anyway. They have improved the smog situation, but not much else. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| No double standards |
Not much has changed, except the hole is a little wider and a little deeper. For me this is a perfect example of the ignorant-apathetic-complicit. How many have no clue of the danger of socialism. How many know socialism is self destructive but they somehow believe CA will be exempt. And how many know this will burn us, but they are on the receiving/ruling end of socialism, so they benefit. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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This is the best news I have heard all day. Let them leave the country. Along with all the celebrities that vowed to leave the country if Trump won. The US would be better off without them! ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Same with us. We're putting our home on the market in primetime, this March, move into a small temporary apartment, and spend 3-6 months buying our next home, out of state. Hope to finalize this whole plan before the end of 2017. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Conservative Behind Enemy Lines  |
Same with us. My son will graduate from college next May, and he can't wait to get out of here. My wife and I have been looking into other areas where we could go. My folks got out in 2001 and they went to Idaho. They love it there, but they're both retired. There aren't many high-paying jobs there. But, I dream of moving back to a red state. | |||
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| Rosie, the Corgi, is my copilot |
It must be true, you read it on the internet. | |||
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Whatever it takes to stop the flood of them moving north - I'm all for. Cheers~ | |||
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that means cook county IL should be next in line Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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| Back, and to the left  |
"Could I get that in writing?" | |||
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