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I'm thinking that if we don't start adapting to this new way of conducting elections, we won't be able to vote our way out of this.


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Posts: 31172 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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We really have to figure out mail-in voting pretty damn quick. Independents don't ignore the legacy media the way Republicans now do, so it's pretty apparent Independents do believe January 6 was more than just a riot. I have no explanation for why the Republican party didn't push back against the January 6 narrative harder, but we chose to pretend a highly publicized indictment of Trump as a traitor would be ignored by the electorate. Finally, we have Trump out there relitigating 2020. Adding to our woes is the fact that Biden himself wasn't on the ballot.
 
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The only explanation that comes to mind is the anti-Trump vote is working.


And your explanation is false, look back at my post at the top of the prior page.

80% of Americans were unsatisfied with the Democrat leadership, yet every single Democrat incumbent running for the Senate and governorship won. Candidates like Katie Hobbs did not campaign, stayed hidden away, yet won.

The quality of the candidates, campaigning, did not matter. What mattered the most, the biggest component in Democrats strategy across the country was paper ballot collection, not votes. PASig hit the hammer squarely on the head. More ballot drop off boxes across the country than 2020. Voting machines "breaking down", or "malfunctioning", resorting to handwritten ballots. More emphasis on early voting, with many jurisdictions using early mail-in ballots only. With Democrat election money switching from campaigning to ballot collection, they changed the way elections are done.

Just like 2020, the political makeup of the country was determined by late counting of paper ballots, and by some of the same states. THIS has to change.



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I’m thinking as always that we have weak republican leadership because we have too many weak Republicans.

If the win doesn’t come easy for many, they quit.

Until we get tougher Republicans who won’t quit at the first sign of trouble, we will continue to lose. None of the rest of the stuff matters. It all works because the left knows that the juggernaut media campaigns work, and republicans leadership will roll over because their constituents will whine and cry but ultimately do nothing but Eat up every bite the MSM gives them, all the while complaining and complying.




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If the win doesn’t come easy for many, they quit.
Yeah, there's a lot of that going around these days.
 
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the political makeup of the country was determined by late counting of paper ballots, and by some of the same states. THIS has to change.



Who's going to change it? The Democrats who "won" those elections and now have control?

We have had some of those changes here in Missouri, but only because we have Republicans in office.


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Posts: 15947 | Location: St. Charles, MO, USA | Registered: September 22, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by jljones:
I’m thinking as always that we have weak republican leadership because we have too many weak Republicans.

If the win doesn’t come easy for many, they quit.

Until we get tougher Republicans who won’t quit at the first sign of trouble, we will continue to lose. None of the rest of the stuff matters. It all works because the left knows that the juggernaut media campaigns work, and republicans leadership will roll over because their constituents will whine and cry but ultimately do nothing but Eat up every bite the MSM gives them, all the while complaining and complying.


Yes, great point.


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Originally posted by bdylan:
We really have to figure out mail-in voting pretty damn quick. Independents don't ignore the legacy media the way Republicans now do, so it's pretty apparent Independents do believe January 6 was more than just a riot. I have no explanation for why the Republican party didn't push back against the January 6 narrative harder, but we chose to pretend a highly publicized indictment of Trump as a traitor would be ignored by the electorate. Finally, we have Trump out there relitigating 2020. Adding to our woes is the fact that Biden himself wasn't on the ballot.


Unless the Republican party starts ballot-harvesting like crazy, we aren’t going to change any of this.

The Democrats are collecting legal ballots and making sure they get turned in to be counted. Who is actually filling them out is irrelevant.

Meanwhile, we are still focused on traditional voting and getting out to vote on election day, they are two steps ahead of us at this point.

Why do you think none of these Democrats bothered to campaign? Shake hands? Kiss babies? Debate? Hold rallies?

Because none of that really matters anymore, it’s all about harvesting and collecting those (legal) ballots. Mad


 
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Looks like the media is still stuck on 211 US House seats for Republicans, but some races that are looking to add to reach 218 seats include CO Seat 3 with Boebert leading 50.17% vs. 49.83% with 99% reporting. Also OR Seat 5 with Republican Chavez-DeRamer leading 51.14% vs. 48.86% with 93% reporting. NY Seat 22 has Williams with 50.75% vs. 49.25% with 97% reporting, and NY Seat 19 with Molinaro leading 51% vs. 48.9 with 96% reporting. And other CA seats with Republicans leading with less than 70% reporting.

Republicans are on a good track for capturing the House, hopefully we'll get final results in the next couple of days.



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^^^^^^^^^^

And this is the crux of election fraud; the delayed count of paper ballots. Where end point is definite, but the point of origin is sometimes questionable, and the zone between origin and final count is entirely unknown, very much evident in AZ and Nevada right now.

As long as American citizens accept these kind of unsecured ballots in the election universe, there will never be a secured election again.

Bingo. This will get worse over time because democrat leadership in progressive strongholds won't prosecute voting fraud. And the Democrats will become more aggressive with voting fraud over time going forward, because, it's working for them. Combine that widespread and consistent low moral floor democrats increasingly embrace and we're in for more frequent banana republic times ahead. And because they have no shame on a personal basis for any wrongdoing, there's no reason to believe voting integrity will return. That is just wishful thinking.




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Posts: 9099 | Location: Nowhere the constitution is not honored | Registered: February 01, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don’t believe Republicans can work harder and vote earlier and beat Democrats. Republicans were strong on the issues despite what the media and pundits are saying. And Trump wasn’t to blame, his candidates did well. I agree with those saying 2022 was a re-hash of 2020. Dems are getting better at cheating. As long as they count the votes, they don’t need to campaign or debate. Midterms should have been a wipeout, the whole country should have looked like Florida. That’s the only state and maybe Texas where there is election integrity. When you have a county in AZ that wants to count all ballots by hand and that is overruled by a judge, what else can you do? The reality is there won’t be a Republican majority again, and the country will get Dems elected everywhere. People know this but are in denial.
 
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Media Declaring Democrat Victory in Nevada Senate Race, Amid Significant Disparity Between Governor Race Outcome in Same State

The media is declaring Democrats have won the Nevada senate race with Catherine Cortez Masto defeating Republican Adam Laxalt. This gives the Senate to the Democrats with 50 seats, Republicans with 49 and the Georgia runoff still outstanding. [Media Report]

Something is very weird about this Nevada outcome, when you compare the Governor race on the same ballot.

With Laxalt previously ahead, and with his previous vote percentage in alignment with Republican Governor Candidate Joe Lombardo, it appeared Laxalt was positioned for victory. However, apparently the Democrats gained post-election ballots where the Democrat on the Senate race was supported, but the Democrat in the Governor race was not.



Democrat Cortez Masto (Sen) surged late in the ballot counting and carried 15,000 more affirming ballots than Democrat Sisolak (Gov). This seems odd and suspicious; however apparently, we are not allowed to notice these things, lest we be considered conspiracy theorists.

It is very rare for a split ballots to surface in a high-profile race where a Republican governor would win, and the Democrat Senator would win. However, the outcome in Arizona and Georgia is of a similar construct amid the ballot trend. Split races in the Governor and Senate outcomes. All very weird.

It wasn’t “democracy on the ballot,” it was something else entirely.

Democracy per se’, was in the voting, not the ballot collecting.

https://theconservativetreehou...e-state/#more-239725



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It’s a miracle I tell ya! Roll Eyes


Another Democrat Miracle! Maggie Hassan Wins 1,100 Votes from Town with Population Under 700

THIS is why we can’t win elections and why PA just picked a brain-dead vegetable to represent them in the Senate.


 
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The Dems are just keeping the tradition alive.



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Originally posted by oddball:
Looks like the media is still stuck on 211 US House seats for Republicans, but some races that are looking to add to reach 218 seats include CO Seat 3 with Boebert leading 50.17% vs. 49.83% with 99% reporting. Also OR Seat 5 with Republican Chavez-DeRamer leading 51.14% vs. 48.86% with 93% reporting. NY Seat 22 has Williams with 50.75% vs. 49.25% with 97% reporting, and NY Seat 19 with Molinaro leading 51% vs. 48.9 with 96% reporting. And other CA seats with Republicans leading with less than 70% reporting.

Republicans are on a good track for capturing the House, hopefully we'll get final results in the next couple of days.


They were on a good track to have the Senate as well but look how that turned out.
You think a bunch of late Democrat votes won’t be found in these House races?


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Jesus Christ

Look, can you guys wait to lose? You know- on the off chance that you might win?

How many times have I said this? Rein in your cynicism. It's depressing, it's old and tired and it serves no purpose but to bring people down.
 
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Without cleaning up the Republican leadership, the best we can hope for is that individual candidates can figure out how to beat the Dems' "ballots, not votes" approach.

With a cleaned up Republican leadership, Republicans might manage to put up a joint effort to beat the shenanigans, and a joint effort is significantly more likely to be effective sooner.

Sadly, both tasks have to be carried out at the same time - if they're carried out at all - in the two years left before 2024.

It's all too obvious from the last election, though, that both are absolutely necessary.
 
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Jesus Christ

Look, can you guys wait to lose? You know- on the off chance that you might win?

How many times have I said this? Rein in your cynicism. It's depressing, it's old and tired and it serves no purpose but to bring people down.


This Gateway Pundit Op-ed sums up the current state -

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...le-another-election/
 
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Jesus Christ

Look, can you guys wait to lose? You know- on the off chance that you might win?

How many times have I said this? Rein in your cynicism. It's depressing, it's old and tired and it serves no purpose but to bring people down.


This Gateway Pundit Op-ed sums up the current state -

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...le-another-election/


You guys just refuse to get it, eh?




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Lauren Boebert 'Gain for OnlyFans,' Says Dem Strategist as She Faces Defeat

Smart move, Mr. Strategist. Imagine if the remark was about AOC. BTW she is currently leading the race.

Avideo of a Democratic strategist suggesting Lauren Boebert should join OnlyFans if she loses her Colorado District 3 Senate race has gone viral.

Kurt Bardella, who serves as a strategist for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and Democratic National Committee, made the suggestion while speaking to MSNBC's Joy Reid.

OnlyFans is an internet content subscription service primarily used by sex workers who produce erotic pictures or pornography.

Reid and Bardella were discussing how close the race is between Boebert and her Democratic opponent, Adam Frisch. It is being intensely watched because the two candidates can barely be separated.



According to the Associated Press, after 99 percent of votes had been counted, Adam Frisch held a tentative lead with 156,746 votes to Boebert's 156,682.

The video of Bardella was posted on Twitter on Thursday evening and has so far has been viewed more than 620,000 times.


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Reid asked: "If Lauren Boebert, the second most popular QAnon congressperson in MAGA, what if she loses?

"What job will she have? I don't think Shooters [Boebert's recently closed restaurant] exists anymore?"

Bardella replied: "Well, I guess it might be a gain for OnlyFans, I don't know what she would do in this scenario."

Reid then bursted out laughing before Bardella continued.



Boebert has faced significant mockery as the race has been closer than anticipated and she is currently trailing.

Seen as a rising modern-day conservative star and facing reelection for the first time on Tuesday night, Boebert had for weeks been warning of the looming momentum of the political movement former President Donald Trump had inspired.

She said it threatened to kneecap the final two years of Democratic President Joe Biden's first term and that it would restore a conservative majority to Congress.

"It's going to be a red wave!" she tweeted before election day two years ago when Republicans clawed back several seats from the Democrats' House majority. Before then, she pointed to the recall of a progressive San Francisco district attorney as a sign of the shifting tide in U.S. politics, and claimed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "knows she's losing the gavel."

As of Wednesday morning, however, the red wave Boebert predicted had not only subsided—it may have almost disappeared.

PLEASE IGNORE THE POLITICAL CHATTER FROM NEWSEEK.

link: https://www.newsweek.com/laure...esult-latest-1758513
 
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