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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Let's say somebody did threaten a school board member. Maybe they did more than threaten, and flat out beat them down in the parking lot.

How is that a federal matter?

What about assaulting a teacher? I was under the impression that these crimes were local matters. Where has the FBI been on these crimes in the past?

Agreed. That is a state crime.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Let's say somebody did threaten a school board member. Maybe they did more than threaten, and flat out beat them down in the parking lot.

How is that a federal matter?

What about assaulting a teacher? I was under the impression that these crimes were local matters. Where has the FBI been on these crimes in the past?

Agreed. That is a state crime.

Exactly. So what do you think the intent of this directive is?

It's pretty obvious that it is being issued to stifle dissent. It's an attack on those who are protesting.

The title of the thread is my interpretation of the directive based on the evidence. No attempt or intent to obfuscate, I posted the original source document.

They openly admit that they do not track or monitor those who are literally burning down cities, attacking innocent people and shutting down businesses, causing billions in damages - because they are left wing and off limits.

Spoiler alert: There has been ZERO violence. So the FBI is going to start monitoring people who speak at school board meetings while ignoring actual physical violence directed at others.

Totally unrelated to this thread except this is probably the only union in NYC that is conservative leaning.

FBI Raids NYPD Sergeants Union Headed By Outspoken President

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...-outspoken-president

The FBI raided the lower Manhattan headquarters of the NYPD's Sergeants Benevolent Association Tuesday morning as part of an "ongoing investigation" into the SBA, according to the NY Daily News, citing an agency spokeswoman.

The 11,000-member union is headed by outspoken president Ed Mullins, a member of the NYPD since January 1982 known for his frequent criticism of political opponents, including New York Mayor Bill de Blasio. Mullins took over as head of the SBA in 2002.

"No comment for now," said Mullins' lawyer Andrew Quinn regarding the AM raid.

As the Daily News notes:

He came under fire in 2020 when he posted the arrest report of de Blasio’s daughter, Chiara de Blasio, on social media following her arrest during George Floyd protests. Mullins was hit with departmental charges for the violation of NYPD rules.

In another instance during the pandemic, Mullins tweeted that the city’s health commissioner was a “b---h” who had “blood on her hands” after she sparred with the NYPD over half a million hospital-grade face masks.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
Be intellectually rigorous and honest - make your real argument. If you are right, you will convince people. Don't mislead them.

On a purely intellectual level I agree with everything you've written, jhe. The problem is the government's lopsided treatment of threats of violence. Non-leftists go over the top with their opposition and it's letters from the DoJ. Leftists not only imply or actually threaten violence, but execute violence and it's crickets from federal LE.

Just a little uneven, would you not agree?

So, yes: The thread title is more than a little inaccurate. But it's easy to see how people might assume the U.S. AG's letter means more than what it says.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by jhe888:
Be intellectually rigorous and honest - make your real argument. If you are right, you will convince people. Don't mislead them.

On a purely intellectual level I agree with everything you've written, jhe. The problem is the government's lopsided treatment of threats of violence. Non-leftists go over the top with their opposition and it's letters from the DoJ. Leftists not only imply or actually threaten violence, but execute violence and it's crickets from federal LE.

Just a little uneven, would you not agree?

So, yes: The thread title is more than a little inaccurate. But it's easy to see how people might assume the U.S. AG's letter means more than what it says.

It's pretty shocking to me that people who know what has taken place over the past several years and witnessed the weaponization of the FBI by the DNC would find anything inaccurate in the thread title.

Speaking at local school board meetings is protected speech. There has been NO violence against school board members, only speech. It's a local issue, even if there had been violence it's a local, state issue. There is literally no reason and no jurisdiction for the FBI to be monitoring people speaking at local school board meetings. There is no other interpretation available for this directive other than to stifle dissent, unless you can point something out here?

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by jhe888:
Be intellectually rigorous and honest - make your real argument. If you are right, you will convince people. Don't mislead them.

On a purely intellectual level I agree with everything you've written, jhe. The problem is the government's lopsided treatment of threats of violence. Non-leftists go over the top with their opposition and it's letters from the DoJ. Leftists not only imply or actually threaten violence, but execute violence and it's crickets from federal LE.

Just a little uneven, would you not agree?

So, yes: The thread title is more than a little inaccurate. But it's easy to see how people might assume the U.S. AG's letter means more than what it says.

Agreed.
I don't have a problem with the stated purpose of prosecuting real violence and real threats of violence.

Now they just need to do the same against the left wingers doing the same for years and stop treating them with kid gloves.

I also agree that keeping Garland off the Supreme Court was dodging a real left wing bullet. The guy's too biased to be a local traffic court judge.

Thread title has been changed.

How is it any of the federal government 's business? Because the schools take federal funding?

No matter what the title of the thread was, this is bizarre enough that I'm not really surprised by any (verbal) reaction to it. It's high time for the Bivens lawsuits that Joe DiGenova (thanks again, Cliff!) referred to. We've had more than enough weirdo lopsided behavior from the DOJ.

Again, this is clearly ham-handed behavior intended to stamp out any kind of dissent, no matter how reasonable.

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Now they just need to do the same against the left wingers doing the same for years and stop treating them with kid gloves.

This didn't happen with a republican president, a republican appointed AG, and a republican appointed FBI director.

It sure as hell isn't happening now, and frankly I don't think it ever will.

Conservative talk radio is hitting this issue hard, now.

Bongino just played an audio clip of Senator Josh Hawley outraged at this memo and is demanding that AG Garland be brought front and center in hearings, under oath, and compelled to answer questions about this memo and policy.

Bongino is also urging listeners to proactively and preemptively contact their local police chiefs and sheriffs and get commitments from them that, any such allegations of threats against school boards be investigated at the local level, and to refuse to take any meetings with the FBI on this issue.

Once again (possible future POTUS?) Ron DeSantis is all over this and telling this creep Garland to keep steppin' when it comes to his state:

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@GovRonDeSantis

Attorney General Garland is weaponizing the DOJ by using the FBI to pursue concerned parents and silence them through intimidation.

Florida will defend the free speech rights of its citizens and will not allow federal agents to squelch dissent.

11:05 AM · Oct 5, 2021·Twitter Web App

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Thread title has been changed.

You didn't need to do that, and half this thread didn't need to be about nitpicking the Goddamned subject line.

Bama, I invite you to change it back to what you had originally, and woe unto any member who says the first word about it.

I guess we haven't been assailed enough for some of you. I'm not going to tolerate bullying a member over their choice of words in a subject line. If any such thing needs to be addressed, I will do it.

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Bongino just played an audio clip of Senator Josh Hawley outraged at this memo and is demanding that AG Garland be brought front and center in hearings, under oath, and compelled to answer questions about this memo and policy.

Senator Josh Hawley Confronts Deputy AG Lisa Monaco About DOJ and FBI Attempt to Target American Parents Attending School Board Meetings

In order for radical leftists to continue to advance their ideological attacks they have to pretend not to know things. Barack Obama took that long-standing truism to new levels of exploitation during his administration, reference: ‘Fast n Furious, IRS targeting, Obamacare, Benghazi’ etc, the list is long.

Yesterday the U.S. Department of Justice issued a memorandum to the FBI instructing them to initiate investigations of any parent attending a local school board meeting who might be viewed as confrontational, intimidating or harassment. The intent of the targeting memo is clear, the political activists within the DOJ are telling the political activists within the FBI to target ordinary parents as ‘Domestic Terrorists‘ or ‘Extremists‘ and open the door for federal action against their local civic activity.

Lisa Monaco was Barack Obama’s former homeland security advisor and former legal counsel in the White House. Monaco was the tip of the spear in using political activism under the guise of ‘homeland security’ target political opposition. That type of political targeting is her specialty. Lisa Monaco is now the Deputy Attorney General of the United States.

As a direct result of her skill-set in combination with her current position, it is almost a guarantee that Deputy AG Lisa Monaco authored the DOJ targeting memorandum that AG Merrick Garland signed and sent to the FBI. Again, weaponizing internal political targeting under the guise of homeland security concerns is what Monaco is specifically famous for doing. Today Missouri Senator Josh Hawley confronted DAG Monaco about the targeting memo.

WATCH her response:



This is how they operate. This is how the two tiers of justice are evidenced.

https://theconservativetreehou...eetings/#more-218024

Gov DeSantis reply to the Garland memo

"Attorney General Garland is weaponizing the DOJ by using the FBI to pursue concerned parents and silence them through intimidation.

Florida will defend the free speech rights of its citizens and will not allow federal agents to squelch dissent."

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Let's Go Brandon

Speaking of Matt Walsh, he recently went to the Loudoun County School board and had this to say to them. I think he summed them up pretty good.

People who think this is no big deal need to ask themselves why the DOJ/FBI is getting involved in local school board meetings in the first place. If some parent gets violent at a local board meeting it the job of the local law enforcement to take care of it. Not federal law enforcement. So why is the AG issuing this edict? Simple. They plan to redefine the definition of ‘domestic terrorism’. That’s their “in”. This administration has been pushing for this since they took over. That is the goal. To define any speech they do not like as ‘domestic terrorism’ so they can bring the full weight of the government to crush it. Compare the treatment of the Jan 6 protestors to the treatment of the Antifa/BLM rioters. One is called ‘domestic terrorism’; one is called ‘peaceful demonstrations’ or ‘speaking truth to power’. The goal is to suppress any resistance to the current regime by making people fearful of exercising their God given, constitutionally protected, right to speak as a free American about things they do not agree with.

Say something we don’t like? The government will crawl up your ass with a microscope. We don’t actually care if you are guilty, the process is the punishment. Be fearful of us. Do as we say or else.

The left has been redefining words for a while now but apparently some people here don’t think stuff like that happens. Apparently they didn’t notice how the definition of ‘vaccine’ changed a month or so ago. Among others. The communists know that if you control the language you can control the people. And if you control the children you control the future.

The allies of the left asked the administration for this a few days ago and they obliged.

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Senator Josh Hawley Confronts Deputy AG Lisa Monaco About DOJ and FBI Attempt to Target American Parents Attending School Board Meetings

I listened to the audio but I still never heard a clear explanation as to why the federales were getting involved to the point of convening meetings with local and state law enforcement. Did anyone else?

The part Monaco wanted to highlight - IF there's a crime, the federales will investigate - contains absolutely no reference to any plausible reason for thinking that there's Federal jurisdiction in "offenses" that haven't happened yet, and thus provides no reason (even prospectively) for the federales to be thinking about getting involved.

I really like Matt Walsh.

A lot.

We will only defend this republic if we get serious.