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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by arlen:
Nothing makes any sense from what the media and authorities have told me. I am waiting for the official right-thinking opinion.

Why can't the answer be that there is no answer? Why can't it be that this guy kept his plan entirely secret, told no one ever, left no written evidence? Why can't it be that the guy committed this insane act simply because he was insane?
It's like someone said earlier in the thread about Posner's comment in Case Closed- people look at the Kennedy assassination and they need to balance out the scales of the enormity of the crime by refusing to accept that a dysfunctional white trash loser changed history all by himself. It can't be Oswald alone. There has to be a supremely elaborate supporting network behind Oswald, or he was simply a patsy. The truth has been staring some people in the face for more than half a century and they still can't see it because it's outside of their paradigm.

The police may be obligated to provide the public with their findings but the Universe doesn't owe us jack shit.

I think people can't accept that there is no answer other than he was insane and effective because to do so leaves them still vulnerable. There is nothing anyone can do to prevent the insane from destruction especially if the insane are high functioning lunatics. I think people would rather there be some circumstance, some conspiracy, some device they can ban, monitor and/or avoid even if they are based in myth and theory. They think they can close the door or cover their heads and the boogey man will go away. He won't. The only answer is to affect the opposite of what seems to be a reflexive remedy. Arm and train everyone.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
The bodies are buried out near Terlingua.

Do you still have the shovel, Gustofer?

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Does a rational man gamble at that rate?.
How is it possible to gamble in Las Vegas and come out $5 million ahead in a year?

He wasn't even an upper tier High Roller...I've read he was only mid-tier. $10k/hour isn't a lot in the world of Vegas, $10k a hand is a bit more serious

From what I've read, he was a systematic gambler...always playing the best odds (video poker). When you do video gambling, and even at tables, money takes on a different meaning and it is just mathematical.

The way to come out ahead when gambling is to leave the table while you are ahead...not to lose it all back trying to get "more ahead"

This post on Zero Hedge gets way out in the weeds. After Ruby Ridge, Waco, all the CIA drug rumors etc I'm pretty skeptical of everything, dammit.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...om-finally-explained

new camfree Oct 8, 2017 6:34 PM

Steve Paddock was a multi-millionaire who had not worked since the 1980s - and yet he lived an extravagant lifestyle while also providing both his mother and brother with early retirements. The white elephant in the living room when it comes to the Las Vegas massacre is: what was the source of Steve Paddock's millions? The only certainty right now is that the federal government and the media are lying to us. But what if the FBI's total inability (or sheer refusal?) to find even a hint of a motive for the Las Vegas mass shooter is really the confession of a secret truth: Stephen Paddock was an agent of the Deep State?

The official story is unravelling fast, but if we simply gather together and synthesize all the available evidence from the alternative and independent media, then we're able to forge a far more coherent narrative that can counter the mainstream nonsense and begin to explain what's really going on: the alleged Las Vegas shooter/patsy was an undercover CIA arms dealer who piloted weapons out of the US for Islamic terrorist groups while trafficking child sex slaves back into the US for his ruling class pedo-elites. This is the shocking truth that's being deliberately withheld from us. And so, just to summarize the source materials that account for how he made his millions, Stephen Paddock was:

1) A licensed and experienced pilot who owned two planes, one of which belonged to the military intelligence contractor Volant LLC during the Obama administration
2) Employed by AlliedSignal from 1985-88 as an arm’s smuggling pilot in the CIA's "Operation Cyclone" program to arm Jihadi terrorist's in Afghanistan.
3) Involved in an illegal FBI gun-running scheme that supplied arms to ISIS terrorists. The Isis weapons dealers killed Paddock in what was meant to be a routine meeting in Vegas, after fearing they were being a set up in an FBI sting. They then carried out the massacre, before fleeing the scene.
4) His brother Eric confirmed Stephen’s background in defence/military intelligence when he gave an awkward but revealing Freudian slip during a bizarre TV interview. Moreover,
5) Paddock owned a company named Paradise Ranch 21, a joint venture with the Philippine Children's Fund of America that provides a temporary home for children flown in from the Philippines
6) Strangely enough, there is also a Paradise Ranch in the Philippines right next to a former US Air Force base in Angeles City – which is a very well-known site of large-scale sex trafficking, and of course
7) Whenever a children’s charity is owned and operated by military/intelligence defence contractors, it's guaranteed to be a front company for a child sex trafficking ring that serves the pedo-ruling elites, and finally
8) The alleged shooter/patsy’s penchant for casinos and the gambling lifestyle – including his constant access to endless supplies of money is well known in Vegas to be a sign of someone involved in money laundering operations.

And so, the obvious question is: did Stephen Paddock make his millions as an agent of the deep state - by piloting weapons deals to terrorists and trafficking underage Pilipino sex slaves to the pedo-elites back in the US? And if you answered YES, then you also know why the federal government, through the corporate media propaganda machine, has been deliberately trying to conceal the painful, traumatic truth about Paddock from the American people, a truth that's right now threatening to break through into the collective consciousness of the wider population: the worst mass murderer in US history is inseparably connected with the ruling elites in Washington DC, through the ratlines of the shadow government that enable those at the top to make billions in profits by trafficking in guns, drugs, money, gold, organs - and small children for the pedo-elites.
And once we accept this, then the immense amount of resistance to exposing the truth about what happened in Las Vegas becomes much easier to understand, because not only is elite pedophilia the most effective entrapment and control mechanism the deep state has ever had, the wider publics collective ignorance of this fact is the only thing preventing the entire political establishment from total collapse.

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Money will buy you a fine dog but it takes love to make that dog wag its tail.

I think it's the moon rocks.

I TOLD NASA NOT TO BRING THAT SHIT BACK!!!!!

^^^This is getting more interesting by the minute>

Doublesharp, you left out the copy of his duplicate passports, recovered at the scene:

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Originally posted by doublesharp:

And so, the obvious question is: did Stephen Paddock make his millions as an agent of the deep state - by piloting weapons deals to terrorists and trafficking underage Pilipino sex slaves to the pedo-elites back in the US?

Well, obviously.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:

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Originally posted by arlen:
I believe that killers of this ilk will tell someone or let their actions be known, at least in the broad sense, maybe not the narrow scope.
There is something missing. Something big. I do not know what it is.

A few years back we had this guy in the Pacific Northwest named Gary Ridgeway. Did some seriously evil shit, then one day it just all stopped. He didn’t fit any FBI profile, didn’t “act” like other serial killers, all the geniuses had a theory... More than one killer, killed by a would-be victim, incarcerated for another crime, moved to a different location, etc.

He finally got caught many years after his last crime due to advances in DNA. He was extensively interviewed, allowed a plea deal where he agreed to cooperate to close more cases and “learn” what makes such a criminal tick to avoid execution.

In the end, it turned out he was just plain evil, no deep sinister plan, no driving religious extremism, just wanted to get laid for free, kill people, and screw dead women. Figured the best way to do so would be to get a hooker, kill them, and do his thing. He figured they were “just” hookers and no one would miss them. He had his “episode” that lasted a number of years and then got over it and went on with life. Got a job, married a good woman was just a regular guy - except that he was evil and for a period of time he couldn’t control it.

Not to sound callous, but basically his motivation for killing over 70 women, essentially in his own words was “Because I wanted to”.


You’ll drive yourself crazy trying to understand the “reason” for evil. Mental illness, psychosis, whatever - evil is evil. It doesn’t need a reason and it doesn’t make sense. Sometimes we find the motivation, sometimes the motivation is never discovered.

I agree 100% Evil doesn't always require any required known environmental or some other known pathology. Some people are just plain evil wild animals and there's nothing you can do about it except to put them away.

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Originally posted by doublesharp:
This post on Zero Hedge gets way out in the weeds. After Ruby Ridge, Waco, all the CIA drug rumors etc I'm pretty skeptical of everything, dammit.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...om-finally-explained

Who writes this shit?

Of the 7 assertions of fact, are any known to be true? Is there any proof that the planes were owned as asserted? Is his employment as a pilot verified? The claim up until now is that he had been an accountant and real estate investor/manager.

Mere assertions are not facts.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Who writes this shit?

Someone who is constructing a compost heap.

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Originally posted by doublesharp:
This post on Zero Hedge gets way out in the weeds. After Ruby Ridge, Waco, all the CIA drug rumors etc I'm pretty skeptical of everything, dammit.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...om-finally-explained

Yes, that is some very elaborate conjecture. That URL isn't valid however. I am curious who authored that story if you can find and share a valid URL.

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Originally posted by dewhorse:
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Because humans cannot deal with randomness.....they must assign a reason otherwise it scares the sheeple.

Evil exists and there is not always a reason for it.

Yes. I have that understanding that completely.

But I want those who ask "why" to understand that if "why" is answered, then what?
What are they going to do?

I posed the same premise to a very good friend.

If the following are four "reasons" he "did it".

A. He hates Trump.

B. It's because he is a BLM or ANTIFA sympathizer.

C. He is an ISIS sympathizer, or was recruited.

D. He was bullied all throughout life, and he just wants to show us; "Now what do you think of me?!"


What can be done, seriously, what one or more things can be done to prevent or change or do anything with meaning or substance in the light of any of A-D?

I'll answer.

Not.

One.

Damned.

Thing.

Burma Shave.

Yet a great tumult and noise as rushing waters and mighty winds fills our ears, day and night, as the masses demand an understanding, as if the universe can hear it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...om-finally-explained

If this doesn't work, go to Zero Hedge and the article title is below in bold. What I posted was taken from the thread. This is not necessarily my opinion but I don't believe everything msm tells me, either. Ever hear Satchell Paige's famous adage?

Suicide Note' Seen In Vegas Shooter's Hotel Room Finally Explained

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Who writes this shit?

Someone who is constructing a compost heap.

My favorite part is where they said the media, that hates trump with all thier being, is colluding with trump to cover up child sex trafficing and running guns for ISIS.

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Originally posted by doublesharp:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...om-finally-explained

Suicide Note' Seen In Vegas Shooter's Hotel Room Finally Explained

That URL is valid, but the contents of that article are different than the text that you posted earlier which begins

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new camfree Oct 8, 2017 6:34 PM

Steve Paddock was a multi-millionaire who had not worked since the 1980s - and yet he lived an extravagant lifestyle while also providing both his mother and brother with early retirements. The white elephant in the living room when it comes to the Las Vegas massacre is: what was the source of Steve Paddock's millions?

Being ad supported, Zerohedge posts some wild click bait, but I can't find the imaginative story about Paddock being involved with the CIA and FBI and arms trafficking to ISIS and underage sex slave trafficking on Zerohedge. It's not a big deal to me, I just wondered "Did Zerohedge really post that?"

So, we recognize this stuff for what it is and that it has no place in this thread.

What I posted was taken from the thread

Read the thread and you'll see the post.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
So, we recognize this stuff for what it is and that it has no place in this thread.

Just one man's opinion and never represented to be fact. Same as any opinion post on this or any other forum. I credited the poster and linked the article although I screwed up the first post. Just another point of view but I have no vested interest in it.

Anyhoo, let's please avoid the nutty and unverified stuff.