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Car Dealership Gives Free Truck to Veteran Who Saved Las Vegas Victims:

A car dealership gave a free truck to a veteran who transported wounded victims to the hospital following the Las Vegas shooting

B5 Motors, a car dealership in Gilbert, Arizona, announced that it would give Marine veteran Taylor Winston a new Ford F-150 Monday to “thank him for his bravery” during the massacre that took 59 lives and wounded more than 500 others.

Winston seized a truck parked near the Route 91 Harvest Festival in the immediate aftermath of last week’s shooting to take multiple trips transporting the wounded victims to the hospital.

The dealership posted on Facebook Wednesday that it was searching for Winston to thank him and tracked him down several hours later.

The company hosted a Facebook Live event on Monday morning to present Winston with his new truck:

During the event, the dealership owner handed Winston the keys as the small crowd of journalists and spectators applauded.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...saved-vegas-victims/
 
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Sheriff now says the security guard was shot before Paddock fired on the crowd.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/917516195342905344

Las Vegas sheriff says Mandalay Bay security guard was shot 6 minutes before first shots were fired at crowd

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/...-20171009-story.html

Officials had previously credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.

But officials said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting, and they now don’t know why he stopped his attack.

Police officers who rushed to the hotel room when the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said
 
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Police Release Possible Motive..
Ever since Stephen Paddock opened fire on 22,000 people at a country music festival on Oct. 1, investigators have been trying to piece together a profile of the killer. They may finally have a possible motive: Paddock’s mental health

I have seen this somewhere.. ( page one Para )

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2..._campaign=benshapiro


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My feeling is the slip-and-fall issue is the reason behind his actions.

A person of reasonable intelligence with a lot money loses a simple case he has convinced himself the other party was responsible for and wanted to cost the hotel as much revenue as possible.

The hotel will probably never rent out that room again. There's loss of revenue.

The potential, and likely, lawsuits against the hotel - more revenue lost.

Next year for the festival - who's paying for security and will the hotel rent out any of the rooms on that side of the building? More lost revenue.

Again, just my opinion, the guy wanted to cost Mandalay Bay as much money as possible. No other motive and possibly not even a death wish.


The slip and fall was at a different casino, the Cosmopolitan.




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new timeline

9:59 pm Campos shot in leg

10:05 pm Paddock shoots into crowd

10:15pm final shots

The guard was investigating an alarm signaling that a door had been left open on the same floor as Paddock's room.

http://www.abc15.com/news/nati...before-mass-shooting
 
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The new timeline makes less sense to me than the old timeline.
 
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It took an entire week for authorities to release this information. I hope they've been sitting on this a while, because if it took them a week to figure out that sequence...
 
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The new timeline makes less sense to me than the old timeline.


Could be as simple as Campos knocking on doors in response to the "unlocked door" thing, and maybe he knocked on the dirtbags door to ask if he knew anything (as the dirtbag was getting himself ready to start shooting) and he reacted because he thinks maybe he has been discovered, so he shoots at the guard, shoots at the crowd, and who knows why, he shoots himself.

But the ol' conspiracy nuts will take this and run as more coverup and what not.




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They have the video he took from inside the room.. It would have an exact time line on it. They should be able to make a timeline to the second. It sounds like they are just making it up as they go on..


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The new timeline makes less sense to me than the old timeline.


Could be as simple as Campos knocking on doors in response to the "unlocked door" thing, and maybe he knocked on the dirtbags door to ask if he knew anything (as the dirtbag was getting himself ready to start shooting) and he reacted because he thinks maybe he has been discovered, so he shoots at the guard, shoots at the crowd, and who knows why, he shoots himself.

But the ol' conspiracy nuts will take this and run as more coverup and what not.




Well I dont wanna act like a conspiracy nut, but.....

The original timeline was the guy was shooting the crowd, security guy comes and interrupts it. Then the guy shoots 200 rounds into the hallway, hitting the guard once in the leg. The guard makes his way down the hallway and bumps into the cops, tells them where the shooter is and helps them evacuate the other rooms on the floor before going to seek medical attention. It was thought that the security guard interrupted and ended the shooting then the suspect shot himself.

Now, the security guard was checking a door alarm, the guy saw him and fired 200rds, hitting him once. Then he begins to shoot into the crowd for 10 minutes. This makes me ask what the security guard was doing for that 10-12 minutes until the cops got there (and the cops seemed to not be sure where this was happening at). You'd think that after the 200rd burst into the hallway and being shot that the security guard would be screaming into his radio about what happened and where he was, eliminating any confusion for the cops by the time they got there 10 minutes later. This makes you wonder why the guy stopped shooting if he began the shooting after being discovered.
 
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They have the video he took from inside the room.. It would have an exact time line on it. They should be able to make a timeline to the second. It sounds like they are just making it up as they go on..



Where did you see this at? The sheriff said no video from the room.
 
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It gets better.....
They just happened to miss the checkin date by 3 days now...

Lombardo also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked in to the Mandalay Bay hotel. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com...-20171009-story.html


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Well I dont wanna act like a conspiracy nut, but.....



And why I said "Could be..." I have no idea, I was not there and have not the official information to go on, simply answering a question and pulling a wild assed guess out of my butt.

If the people on scene cannot get the time-lines straight, and are still putting it all together.

Imagine the amount of data they are sifting through, the "retelling" by all the witnesses, and the out and out bullshit that flows in these type incidents, and people are surprised at conflicting reports.




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It took an entire week for authorities to release this information. I hope they've been sitting on this a while, because if it took them a week to figure out that sequence...


This is the kind of incompetent bullshit that leads to idiotic conspiracy theories. A timeline should have been nailed down within hours, maybe a day at best.

Absolutely ridiculous and no excuse for it.

All of these alarms and videos have time stamps on them. No excuse for this nonsense.



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Agree completely about it being an incomplete investigation.

No way anyone should be on a national news show talking about an ongoing investigation.

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previous time line w new info

an obvious question is whether Campos had a radio. Those were 6 precious minutes to get word to hotel security (and thus police) about someone shooting from Paddock's room.

In addition, if Paddock fired 200 rounds down the hall, you would think a number of people heard that.

The previous timeline seemed nice and tidy, this new one seems odd.

(Although I always wondered why Campos had not heard all the gun fire going on when it was thought he was shot at 1015)
 
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Thanks for muddying the waters even further, Sean, buy implying that there's a coverup.

That's what he just did- he implied that there's a coverup.


The good news is government sucks at covering up issues they don't want to have see the light of day.

So if there was, we'll hear of it one day.

But I'm with Para. The is nothing to cover up because the simple answer theorem applies. That theorem says the simplest answer is usually the correct one. In this case Massmurderertwatwaffle just wanted to kill people. Like every serial killer, when you strip away the bullahit you find a person with an overwhelming desire to murder.


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The inability to find a motive sounds strange until you remember they can’t even find a motive when the attacker’s yelling Allahu Akbar

8:19 PM - Oct 6, 2017


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