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eh-TEE-oh-clez |
I stand corrected, I thought he was armed. Vegas security is often armed, considering the amount of money flowing in and out of the gaming floor. | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Several pages back another member posted that there's a difference in middle initials between the shooter and the Democrat in Florida, was this discrepancy resolved? | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
I've thought about that... and I think you are right. There was no good way to shoot back from the venue below. It's a good thing that smoke alarm went off or he may have been shooting for a lot longer. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Even if only CS gas. | |||
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This was being discussed on local radio this morning. Both names with middle initials "C" and "G" showed a record of the same address here in Viera. The theory is that the discrepancy resulted from a clerical error | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Ah, makes sense. Thanks. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Could be. My middle initial is different on some reports due to a mistake on a loan I had once. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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400 yard police sniper policy - Please benchmark this off of your departments worse sniper's ability. If say y'all decide say the target must be 1 foot away from any innocents. Then vet by standing the policy approvers said distance from a live fire target. I understand if it is 1 innocent vs 20 innocents it may suck to be the one near the bad guy. Suppressor BS - He's dead Jim, but I guess add a tax avoidance charge for no form 4? Shooting from inside a fair sized room, through a hole. Gas expands inside room suppressing sound. | |||
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hello darkness my old friend |
We train out to 300 yards with iron sights. Our patrol rifles optics are not magnified. I can do pretty well with my Eotech out to 500 yards if I turn the red dot down to it lowest light setting. I'm not sure we need to hit him. As A1 said earlier in this thread, If we can get some rounds in the room, I'm betting that he would have scurried off and killed himself. Most of these guys quit at the first sign of resistance. We don't carry long guns at big arenas and events because admin is afraid it looks like military mentality. Perhaps its time to rethink that mentality. | |||
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Administrator |
What about landing rounds in other people's rooms? Exigency can cover a lot, but hitting bystanders from 400 yards away is still setting yourself up to be every plaintiff's lawyer's [dream] next-meal. | |||
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Cursed be he who moves my bones! |
My .02 fwiw: - I don't think the shooter was insane. I think he was a psychopath, a heritable trait likely from his father. This lack of empathy enabled him to do what he did, not insanity. - I spent a lot of time around casinos, having worked in them for many years. My guess would be that he'd gambled away most of his retirement nest egg and isn't as "wealthy" as his brother thinks. The shooting is a big f-u to Vegas and probably Mandalay Bay in particular. - I've thought since the 2016 run-up to the election that POTUS will sign any gun-control legislation that lands on his desk, if he thinks it will make him popular or look smart or like a winner. I've never believed he has any particular attachment to the 2A. He's a New Yorker and he's personally always been able to get whatever guns he wants/needs anyway. I also don't think his sons will be able to change his mind, any more than his daughter has been able to on the issues she cares about. - Bump stocks will likely end up banned. - The silencer bill will likely get tabled. | |||
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I'm sure she is. She's probably thinking "They have no sympathy for me, why did I get fired for it?" She's too stupid to realize the 58 that died in Vegas were minding their own business, having a good time with friends and family, at a concert. SHE was being an America-hating liberal shitbag. Consequences are a bitch, huh? __________________________ But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. | |||
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+1 It's an occupied hotel faced with windows. This thread's drifted off the planet. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Heads up if you're interested, Chris Cox will be on Tucker tonight and LaPierre will be on Hannity tonight. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I love watching Tucker debate these idiots. He's destroying some Brady Campaign moron right now. She has nothing. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Security at Vegas casinos comes in two flavors. The armed guys are on the gaming floor looking for knuckleheads and minding the money; Mandalay has a lot more than 17. The unarmed guys are your standard hotel security, mainly dealing with the guests who are staying on property, overseeing the accommodation, restaurant and retail areas, along with handling guest relation-type issues. | |||
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I agree. Psychopath who acted alone. I don't think he planned this for as long as what's being said. At the most a couple years. All this he's been hiding his tracks for decades is hogwash. Apparently if you don't have an enormous social media footprint these days you are hiding your tracks. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
You are splitting hairs. If you're a psychopath, you are insane. I'm not talking about legal definitions, Of course this asshole knew right from wrong, but it's very simple- no sane person commits an such as this. No one who is sane would do such a thing. You can argue that 'til the cows come home, but that guy was nuts. | |||
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Speaking of psychopaths, I ran across this picture of his father as compared to someone most of us would recognize. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
James Spader? | |||
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