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Originally posted by clayflingythingy:

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Originally posted by dar185:
The sad thing isn’t the ignorant atheists/agnostics that swarm to these threads.

Odds are my knowledge base of the Bible and early Christianity exceeds yours. I am quite well read going all the way back to my intro classes during my college days. My experience is few Christians have actually done any reading other than church approved Bible verse and approved apologetics. Truthfully, most Christians do not even read the Bible.

Back on topic, the guy wasted his life dying for a fairy tale.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
Murder is suddenly ok if the indigenous do it to missionaries? If a gang banger kills someone who stepped on the wrong street, we put them in jail. That's what the Indian government ought to do to these guys.

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Originally posted by walker77:
At some point every one of us will stand before God to answer for the things we did in life. This man did what he was called to do. Non believers wouldn't understand.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
It seems very arrogant to me that someone thinks they are entitled to spread their beliefs to another group, especially in this case, obviously without their consent.

All Christians are called to evangelize. But, some people just don't use the brain the good Lord gave them in doing so.

This young fella (sadly he won't get any older) didn't know how to think about this call critically.

I've known people like him...mostly the "born again" type. What they fail to understand is that some (most) people they interact with, and try to evangelize to, don't share the passion that they feel. I don't think it is arrogance, rather, I think it is ignorance that killed him.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:...
Obviously, I disagree that it's ok to kill trespassers simply because these people want to be left alone.

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"Lord, is this island Satan's last stronghold where none have heard or even had the chance to hear your name?" he wrote.

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"The boat stopped 500-700 meters (1,640 - 2,300 feet) away from the island and (Chau) used a canoe to reach the shore of the island. He came back later that day with arrow injuries. On the 16th, the (tribespeople) broke his canoe.
"So he came back to the boat swimming. He did not come back on the 17th; the fishermen later saw the tribespeople dragging his body around."

While on board, he wrote one final note to his family.
"You guys might think I'm crazy in all this but I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people," it said. "God, I don't want to die."

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Here’s an idea: charge the fishermen with his death.

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Originally posted by mod29:

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Here’s an idea: charge the fishermen with his death.

How about chocking this up as someone sticking their nose where it doesn't belong, and not charging anyone?


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Originally posted by maxdog:
It wasn’t about faith. It was about arrogance, narcissism and hubris.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by ArtieS:...
Obviously, I disagree that it's ok to kill trespassers simply because these people want to be left alone.

While I concur, we have to understand, "their land, their rules".

We are looking it it from our cultural perspective, and not looking at it from theirs.

In their "world", it may be perfectly well and acceptable to kill any outsider that is "feet dry".

And I have no trouble accepting that "truth" exists for that reason.

And I see no reason to step on their place to "fix" that.

Now, if we were going to move in and take over, then we apply as much persuasion as needed to change hearts and minds.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
Murder is suddenly ok if the indigenous do it to missionaries? If a gang banger kills someone who stepped on the wrong street, we put them in jail. That's what the Indian government ought to do to these guys.

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Originally posted by Micropterus:

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Originally posted by clayflingythingy:

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Originally posted by dar185:
The sad thing isn’t the ignorant atheists/agnostics that swarm to these threads.

Odds are my knowledge base of the Bible and early Christianity exceeds yours. I am quite well read going all the way back to my intro classes during my college days. My experience is few Christians have actually done any reading other than church approved Bible verse and approved apologetics. Truthfully, most Christians do not even read the Bible.

Back on topic, the guy wasted his life dying for a fairy tale.

If you believe the gospel is a fairy tale, it's because YOU are supposed to believe its a fairy tale. You, specifically you, are supposed to think it's silly, unsubstantiated, from the minds of men, contradictory, all that stuff those that don't believe say it is. The bible predicts YOU, specifically you. Your eyes are closed to its truth because they haven't been opened. And you can't open then. At this time, you couldn't believe the bible and gospel contained therein if you wanted to. Some people think belief is a decision. It's not. Belief it a gift. You don't have it. You may receive it in the future, God has his own way of doing things. But if you don't it all works well for those that do believe. You see, the bible doesn't promise the gift of belief to all - very few in fact. Non-belief is just as important in the scheme of things as belief. It all works for the glory of God. God is either glorified in your salvation, or he's glorified in your destruction. Either way, he's glorified.