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Well that’s not good.
Sounds like we have an administration or training and education building on fire at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in Enerhodar, Ukraine.

Ukraine and Russian military fighting for control of Nuclear Power Plant.




“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

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Don't worry. Harris is on her way to Europe to solve the problem.


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Ukraine and Russian military fighting for control of Nuclear Power Plant.


 
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What really is scary is that we don’t have any real leadership that is even a step behind Putin on the same page, our leadership is inept and incompetent. The Ukrainians are offering this tyrant some serious resistance how long before he goes full retard and detonates a Russian version of a MOAB in a population center to make a point, killing 100,000 or more isn’t outside this lunatic’s wheel house.
 
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How is this for irony?

The German government will be shipping 2,700 Soviet designed and built Strela MANPADS antiaircraft missiles to Ukraine, pulling them out of storage of old East German military stocks.

It looks like this weapon is almost identical in size and performance to the US Redeye which was the Vietnam era predecessor of the Stinger.

So…Russian aircraft will now have old Soviet missiles coming at them.


 
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The previous video has a commentator.
This video has additional information scrolling on the bottom of the video.

Video feed from camera is not consistent with so many feeds connecting to the camera.

International Atomic Energy Agency has been posting press releases.



The Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station in Enerhodar, Ukraine, is the largest nuclear power plant in Europe and among the top 10 largest in the world.
The plant has 6 reactors of the VVER 1000 design.

Update: Looks like camera feed from Zaporizhzhia NPP has gone down.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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Everything has consequences. Just like Trudeau freezing assests of the truckers and their supporters, leading to a run on the banks in Canada. Freezing countries assets may have long lasting implications.

From the Wall Street Journal:

If Russian Currency Reserves Aren’t Really Money, the World Is in for a Shock

Sanctions have shown that currency reserves accumulated by central banks can be taken away. With China taking note, this may reshape geopolitics, economic management and even the international role of the U.S. dollar.

https://archive.ph/fmEN2#selection-3945.5-3949.217

“What is money?” is a question that economists have pondered for centuries, but the blocking of Russia’s central-bank reserves has revived its relevance for the world’s biggest nations—particularly China. In a world in which accumulating foreign assets is seen as risky, military and economic blocs are set to drift farther apart.
After Moscow attacked Ukraine last week, the U.S. and its allies shut off the Russian central bank’s access to most of its $630 billion of foreign reserves. Weaponizing the monetary system against a Group-of-20 country will have lasting repercussions.

The 1997 Asian Financial Crisis scared developing countries into accumulating more funds to shield their currencies from crashes, pushing official reserves from less than $2 trillion to a record $14.9 trillion in 2021, according to the International Monetary Fund. While central banks have lately sought to buy and repatriate gold, it only makes up 13% of their assets. Foreign currencies are 78%. The rest is positions at the IMF and Special Drawing Rights, or SDR—an IMF-created claim on hard currencies.
Many economists have long equated this money to savings in a piggy bank, which in turn correspond to investments made abroad in the real economy.

Recent events highlight the error in this thinking: Barring gold, these assets are someone else’s liability—someone who can just decide they are worth nothing. Last year, the IMF suspended Taliban-controlled Afghanistan’s access to funds and SDR. Sanctions on Iran have confirmed that holding reserves offshore doesn’t stop the U.S. Treasury from taking action. As New England Law Professor Christine Abely points out, the 2017 settlement with Singapore’s CSE TransTel shows that the mere use of the dollar abroad can violate sanctions on the premise that some payment clearing ultimately happens on U.S. soil.

To be sure, the West has frozen Russia’s stock of foreign exchange, but hasn’t blocked the inflow of new dollars and euros. The country’s current-account surplus is estimated at $20 billion a month due to exports of oil and gas, which the U.S. and the European Union want to keep buying. While these balances go to the private sector, officials have mobilized them. Stopping major banks like Sberbank from using dollars and excluding others from the Swift messaging system still plunges the economy into chaos, especially if foreign businesses are afraid to buy Russian energy despite the sector’s explicit exclusion from sanctions. But hard currency will probably keep gushing in through energy-focused lenders like Gazprombank, and can theoretically be used to pay for imports and buy the ruble.

Yet the entire artifice of “money“ as a universal store of value risks being eroded by the banning of key exports to Russia and boycotts of the kind corporations like Apple and Nike announced this week. If currency balances were to become worthless computer entries and didn’t guarantee buying essential stuff, Moscow would be rational to stop accumulating them and stockpile physical wealth in oil barrels, rather than sell them to the West. At the very least, more of Russia’s money will likely shift into gold and Chinese assets.

Indeed, the case levied against China’s attempts to internationalize the renminbi has been that, unlike the dollar, access to it is always at risk of being revoked by political considerations. It is now apparent that, to a point, this is true of all currencies.

The risk to King Dollar’s status is still limited due to most nations’ alignment with the West and Beijing’s capital controls. But financial and economic linkages between China and sanctioned countries that are only allowed to accumulate reserves—and, crucially, spend them—there will necessarily strengthen. Even nations that aren’t sanctioned may want to diversify their geopolitical risk. It seems set to further the deglobalization trend and entrench two separate spheres of technological, monetary and military power.

China itself owns $3.3 trillion in currency reserves. Unlike Russia, it cannot usefully hold them in renminbi, a currency it prints. Stockpiling commodities is an alternative. The conundrum creates another incentive for Beijing to reduce its trade surplus by reorienting its economy toward domestic consumption, though it has proven challenging.

What can investors do? For once, the old trope may not be ill advised: buy gold. Many of the world’s central banks will surely be doing it.


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What really is scary is that we don’t have any real leadership that is even a step behind Putin on the same page, our leadership is inept and incompetent. The Ukrainians are offering this tyrant some serious resistance how long before he goes full retard and detonates a Russian version of a MOAB in a population center to make a point, killing 100,000 or more isn’t outside this lunatic’s wheel house.


You address some valid points. Putin at the beginning told the world , do not get involved or intervene, or face the consequences. Using a weapon of mass destruction, if he did, no doubt Russia would still tell other nations to stay out of this fight. I think every country in the world now sees how weak and stupid our leaders are.

Both nations, Russia & Ukraine are corrupt as hell. So is the current US administration. I'm certainly no leftist, but hoping Ukraine some how manages to survive, civilian deaths and suffering are senseless .


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Putin maybe a sociopath and maniacal but he’s not stupid. The man put the fear of God into Potatus when he said US or NATO involvement would cost a huge price, now he knows Potatus blinked and Kamala will have to get a tutor to play tic tac toe to his chess game. NATO isn’t making any aggressive moves and he knows it. Now he’s converging on 6 reactors in a nuke plant, how does that fit in the dance card to liberate to pro Russian states? I don’t know much if anything about nuclear plants, but if one with six reactors melt down or go ka-boom, I’m sure it will make Chernobyl look like a broken water main. I’m guessing NATO is going to be behind the eight ball too.
 
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RT America To Shut Down Production & Fire Most Staff

CNN reports the outlet Russia Today America will be ceasing all productions and firing the majority of its employees “as a result of unforeseen business interruption events.”

T&R Productions, the production company behind the Russian-funded network, said the layoffs and office closures in New York, Miami, Los Angeles, and Washington, DC will be permanent.

After learning of the sudden dismissals on Thursday, an employee told CNN “A lot of people were shocked. A lot of people were crying.”

The decision came after companies like DirecTV and Roku dropped RT from their programming in response to the Russian war with Ukraine.

Both Google and Apple also banned RT and Sputnik News from their app stores while most American social media sites have limited the sharing capabilities and ad revenue of Russian state media.

Even Africa’s largest subscription television provider dropped RT.

Before the announcement, some RT hosts like comedian Dennis Miller and others already decided to part ways with the network.

An RT host anonymously told CNN how it felt to watch her colleagues lose their jobs, saying, “I have never felt more heartbroken as they have nothing to do with this conflict and seriously were just trying to make a decent living to provide for their families.”

https://www.infowars.com/posts...ion-fire-most-staff/


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That idiot Biden wants 10B in aide to Ukraine. How about flushing the bombers out of Barksdale and enact Linebacker III.


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And now Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News and called live on air for the assassination of Putin.



He then tweeted the very same thing he just said on air.



https://twitter.com/LindseyGra...HHwWhsC4uY2zx88pAAAA


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I hope someone in Russia hears that and acts. I saw a video on the tube today and it looks like even China is backing away from this rat putin.
 
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10 billion to Ukraine equals 3 billion kick back to the Politicians
 
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That idiot Biden wants 10B in aide to Ukraine. How about flushing the bombers out of Barksdale and enact Linebacker III.
That’s so 70’s.
Conventional Warfare has grown out of style.
If we get in a boxing match with Putin, he’s putting on the Nuclear gloves.

Biden will respond with two scoops please.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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I saw a video on the tube today and it looks like even China is backing away from this rat putin.
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China-backed bank suspends business with Russia, Belarus

The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) said it will be suspending business with Russia and Belarus, which have been hit by severe international sanctions since Russia invaded Ukraine. Belarus has provided Moscow with assistance and logistical support, including the use of its territory to mount the assault.

"In the best interests of the bank, management has decided that all activities relating to Russia and Belarus are on hold and under review," the bank said in a statement, adding that management would do its "utmost to safeguard the financial integrity of AIIB."

"AIIB stands ready to extend financing flexibly and quickly and support members who have been adversely impacted by the war," the statement added without much detail.

The AIIB is a multilateral institution launched in 2016 at the initiative of Chinese President Xi Jinping to balance Western dominance of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Russia is one of the founding members of the AIIB, holding a 6% vote in operations and has a seat on the board of the bank. The Bank of China holds a 27% stake, though Russia is the third-largest stakeholder after India.

Ref: Ukraine: Fire breaks out at Europe's largest nuclear power plant — live updates

With this, Russia's economy, what's left of it, is now nearly completely isolated from the international community, I believe.

Of course, our Idiot In Chief still has us buying oil from Russia

On that same page:
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Fire breaks out at Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant after shelling

Ukraine's foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, tweeted, "Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out."

Kuleba added, "If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chernobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!"

Ukraine's energy ministry told Russia's RIA news agency that firefighters are unable to tend to the blaze at the plant as Russian troops continue to fire on them.

Plant spokesman Andry Tuz said shells were striking the plant and one of the six reactors was on fire. He said the reactor that was hit was under renovation and therefore nonoperational.

Tuz said it was imperative to cease fighting so firefighters could contain the blaze.

Dmytro Humenyuk of the State Scientific and Technical Center for Nuclear and Radiation Safety told Hromadske that the power units have several layers of fuel protection. The plant generates 25% of Ukraine's electricity.

Humenyuk explained that under certain conditions, the power units can withstand up to 10 tons but are not designed to be hit by bombs or projectiles. If the reactor is seriously damaged and nuclear fuel exposed, the resulting catastrophe would be as bad as Chernobyl and if more than one reactor is hit, the result would be even more horrific.

Warning of a "severe danger" if the nuclear reactors were hit by shelling, the International Atomic Energy Agency said it was in contact with Ukrainian authorities.

Full article at URL, above.

Shelling a nuclear power plant. Not a particularly intelligent move. Hopefully Russia hasn't lost its mind so badly heads don't roll for this one.

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Good grief... people reacting before they know what the fuck is really going on. Fuck Graham, that idiot is ratcheting up the rhetoric on someone he thinks is a madman, yet whose finger is on the button?

STOP LISTENING TO THE PRESS HYPE.

It appears that the plant's reactors weren't shelled. The fire started in a training area away from the nuclear reactors. There is no indication of a rise in radiation around the reactors and the International Atomic Energy Agency has stated that all of the reactors are being shut down as a precaution. That's not to say they don't represent a source of potential high radiation should they be hit, but it doesn't appear they were specifically targeted and steps are being taken to prevent accidental radiation release should something unforeseen happen. Shooting around the plant area appears to have stopped, probably b/c the higher-ups realize the dangers of inaccurate fire around such structures.

The Press want you to think the world is coming to an end and Ukraine propaganda will make every attempt to draw in the West. Fuck that and the Russians can go fuck themselves too.

On a side note - in my nearly 20 years on this forum, this instance is the largest # of f-bombs I've ever dropped.
 
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Yes, American politicians calling for the assassination of foreign heads of state need to just shut the fuck up. Shameful and outrageous.

If little Lindsey wants to try it, we can air drop his ass into Moscow with a Bowie knife and a hand grenade. Fuckin' idiot.
 
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