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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
You mean those crazy interwebz videos can do some good? Fuck that cop, I hope the nurse gets some restitution. And the ability to tell each of those cops, to their faces, to FUCK OFF. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
This happened last month but it has gone gangbusters today, People Magazine,etc. Michael Savage raked the idiot over the coals today on the radio. No wonder SLC mayor and chief are desperately playing catch-up today, weeks too late. My wife is a clinical lab scientist at a major hospital, and very pro LE, her whole department is. She was livid, besides herself when she saw this. Her point is that hospital and LE have to have a good working relationship and this moron basically erased some of that at University of Utah's ER. Sheer incompetence. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Ice age heat wave, cant complain.  |
Wow, what a raging hard on this guy is. Around here, LEOs like him end up working at the airport...or recruiting.  NRA Life Member Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. | |||
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| When you fall, I will be there to catch you -With love, the floor |
Rarely did we ever have an issue with our ER staff. If we did, we took it up to the hospital administrator. In the past, a blood draw could be made if the subject refused the breath test or with pc in the case of a breath test not possible. case law changed that to require a warrant from a judge. so call the judge. The bac doesn't dissipate that quickly that an hour is going to make a huge difference. If the hospital did a drawer, all that's needed is get a subpoena to get the results. Going to that length was idiotic. what did it prove? This was the case that changed past practice a few years ago. The state AG should have made it known to all those departments.
Up until that point, it was permitted to draw blood without a warrant in these cases.
The court left open the possibility of a drawer without a warrant but those cases are beyond the normal dwi.
The criminal charge would be one issue but I'd imagine that there would be issues as a medical practitioner and the effect on their ability to retain their certifications. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
99.9 times out of 100, no...it's not needed. But yet, ETOH levels are part of every trauma panel every place I've ever worked. So, yes, if he came in unconcious, blood was drawn and an ETOH level was tested. All the cop had to do was subpoena the medical records. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Flow first, power later. |
"Payne has been suspended from blood-draw duties but remains in his role as a detective in the investigations unit" This is idiotic. He didn't screw up a blood draw, he screwed up the law and abused his power. How in the hell can he still be working as a deputy?who cares that he is suspended from drawing blood? He should be suspended without pay pending those two investigations. And praying the nurse does not pursue assault charges or civil penalties. | |||
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Maybe not. It seems like ERs are the favorite gathering place for psychos. | |||
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| Fuimus |
His partners were even telling him to chill out. | |||
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Amazing abuse of power. Can't believe he didn't know when it was time to stand down. And sadly all the 'good cops' stood by while it happened. I read the definition of kidnapping in the Utah code and that is pretty damn close... -------------------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Only the strong survive |
Stick a fork in it....he is done. It was featured on NBC Nightly News.  Maybe he can use his experience to drive a garbage truck. 41 | |||
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| Jack of All Trades, Master of Nothing  |
Sorry, can't cut and paste the statement from their page but according to the SLCPD's Facebook page, the arresting officer has been placed on full administrative leave while an investigation is conducted. So let me get this straight, the incident took place over a month ago, the video goes viral last night and in less than 24 hours an investigation is announced, as outrage grows the officer gets suspended from the blood collection team, now that it picks up national media attention the officer is placed on full administrative leave. I think somebody other than Detective Payne has some explaining to do. In this case, I don't think the City s concerned with right or wrong, they're more concerned with their public image. My daughter can deflate your daughter's soccer ball. | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
 Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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I don't understand why all of the other policemen that were there , just stood around and watched the show.... Didn't someone think that this was a bad idea ??? | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Damage Control... There's a huge hole from frames 021 to 4312, massive flooding... Pumps can't keep up... We're going down... What? Say again. Sacrifice the DOUCHEBADGE? Roger, but I'm not sure it's gonna save us.... Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Thorough out history, people have continually mishandled events of this nature. They try to cover it up, ignore it, move the offending parties around, keep it quiet. It never works. You deal with it from the word go. You get in front of it and stay in front of it. | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
I'd guess a more realistic answer was since his bad behavior has made the national media, they've promoted him to "full administrative leave" with full benefits. Consider it paid vacation to reward him. The union will fight tooth and nail to prevent any real punishment. The only thing that will force any action will be criminal charges against him or a lawsuit so terrible they're forced to take some kind of action. Don't hold your breath. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
I know. When you stare into the abyss, the abyss also stares back at you. They have to live with the fact they didn't do anything. . | |||
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If the city has to pay out a million or two, they might think twice about trying to keep this guy on the force. The bad publicity not looking good for the mayor and general administration, hopefully there will be some fallout at the next local election. Most persons do not learn their lesson unless it costs money or pain. -c1steve | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
And then when response times go through the roof, the government gets REPLACED by something better. Sadly, service has to suffer first for the citizens of the town. But they collectively elected the people at the top. . | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon  |
Can you imagine the shit storm that would have occurred if the nurse had been black? It wouldn't be a month before the media jumped all over it, that's for sure. The hypocrisy of it all is really pissing me off. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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