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Originally posted by jljones:
Despite your saber rattling, you do bring a good point to bear. If the hospital, through the university, has their own certified police agency, likely they won't feel a difference. Private hospitals only have a security force that is non-sworn. They have to rely on contract police services.

If in fact the university police serves their security needs, the world will keep spinning without backlash.

I went back and reread the article, and while it isn't a copy of the policy, they quote the Chief of Nursing as saying "Nurses will no longer interact with police. That will be left to hospital administrators." Note she said "police", not "SLCPD officers". Later in the article, it said that Wubbels "wants changes from both the SLC police force and police and security forces at the University of Utah." If they are giving the U of U PD the finger too, things might be a bit awkward...

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by deepocean:
Gold Cross fired Payne from his ambulance driving job, effective immediately.

For me that is a telling comment which puts the officers actions a category different than "I was only following orders". As I commented earlier, I wonder what's going through the officers mind now.

Just following orders. Lawful, no lawful, good, or bad, like Nazis, just following orders that's all. Yea right. Sometimes only weak minded fucks "just follow orders".

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Originally posted by wrightd:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by deepocean:
Gold Cross fired Payne from his ambulance driving job, effective immediately.

For me that is a telling comment which puts the officers actions a category different than "I was only following orders". As I commented earlier, I wonder what's going through the officers mind now.

Just following orders. Lawful, no lawful, good, or bad, like Nazis, just following orders that's all. Yea right. Sometimes only weak minded fucks "just follow orders".

What's going through his mind? I'm betting retirement...

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Originally posted by wrightd:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by deepocean:
Gold Cross fired Payne from his ambulance driving job, effective immediately.

For me that is a telling comment which puts the officers actions a category different than "I was only following orders". As I commented earlier, I wonder what's going through the officers mind now.

Just following orders. Lawful, no lawful, good, or bad, like Nazis, just following orders that's all. Yea right. Sometimes only weak minded fucks "just follow orders".

OK, the guy was wrong. He should be fired most likely.. but bring up that "Nazi" bullshit in unnecessary... stow that bullshit...

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Originally posted by slosig:

If they are giving the U of U PD the finger too, things might be a bit awkward...

All University PD did in this case was stand around performing digital rectal self-exams. If that's the norm, it doesn't seem like a big loss to the hospital.

read a headline where he has been fired from his second job as a paramedic....

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Originally posted by KevinCW:

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Originally posted by wrightd:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by deepocean:
Gold Cross fired Payne from his ambulance driving job, effective immediately.

For me that is a telling comment which puts the officers actions a category different than "I was only following orders". As I commented earlier, I wonder what's going through the officers mind now.

Just following orders. Lawful, no lawful, good, or bad, like Nazis, just following orders that's all. Yea right. Sometimes only weak minded fucks "just follow orders".

OK, the guy was wrong. He should be fired most likely.. but bring up that "Nazi" bullshit in unnecessary... stow that bullshit...

Sorry, Kevin. In another context, I might agree with you, but Godwin's Law doesn't apply in this case.

He didn't raise Nazis metaphorically or even as a pure simile in an abstract sense, but was referencing the Neuremberg, or "Superior Orders", defense rather directly.

-Rob

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
read a headline where he has been fired from his second job as a paramedic....

Gold Cross says he was released because of the comment he made towards the end of the video. Something about he will bring the UoU all the transient patients, and he will take all the "good" patients elsewhere. He was referring to his Ambulance job.

Basically he was stating that he would use his job at Gold Cross to retaliate against the hospital. It looks bad. I'm sure this was Gold Cross' chance to get as far away from this as possible.

The more we refer to "Nazis", the less meaning the word has. Try choosing another fascist for comparisons. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.

In other news Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The more we refer to "Nazis", the less meaning the word has. Try choosing another fascist for comparisons. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.

But then we have to read to come up with other names, it is so much easier to quote names that are popular in the press.

Yeah, that cop was like Pol Pot or Ed Gein.

No, wait, that's not quite right...

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The more we refer to "Nazis", the less meaning the word has. Try choosing another fascist for comparisons. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.

Ms. Bexley. My high school Algebra teacher. That woman was definitely a Fascist if there ever was one.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The more we refer to "Nazis", the less meaning the word has. Try choosing another fascist for comparisons. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.

I was thinking of "brownshirts", but also a term done to death. Maybe "Mussolini-Dudes"...

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Originally posted by KevinCW:

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Originally posted by wrightd:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by deepocean:
Gold Cross fired Payne from his ambulance driving job, effective immediately.

For me that is a telling comment which puts the officers actions a category different than "I was only following orders". As I commented earlier, I wonder what's going through the officers mind now.

Just following orders. Lawful, no lawful, good, or bad, like Nazis, just following orders that's all. Yea right. Sometimes only weak minded fucks "just follow orders".

OK, the guy was wrong. He should be fired most likely.. but bring up that "Nazi" bullshit in unnecessary... stow that bullshit...

Yes, I am so tired of hearing about Nazis, Facists and Hitler from the left.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
Ms. Bexley. My high school Algebra teacher. That woman was definitely a Fascist if there ever was one.

a Bexli, maybe, or a Bexi. Monsters, all of them.

I put myself in the officers position. I screwed up twice, big time, and it's all over town. I lost one job, the main job may have some big bumps ahead, how does that impact my family and financial obligations. What are the chances of getting other employment, given my newly acquired reputation. Will I acknowledge and overcome, or will dig my heels in deeper that I did nothing wrong.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yeah, that cop was like Pol Pot or Ed Gein.

No, wait, that's not quite right...

Henry Gibson?