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Yeah, that cop was like Pol Pot or Ed Gein.

No, wait, that's not quite right...


Henry Gibson?


Not quite, but close



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I put myself in the officers position. I screwed up twice, big time, and it's all over town. I lost one job, the main job may have some big bumps ahead, how does that impact my family and financial obligations. What are the chances of getting other employment, given my newly acquired reputation. Will I acknowledge and overcome, or will dig my heels in deeper that I did nothing wrong.


In this case, he'll dig his heels in acknowledging he did nothing wrong overcoming the nurse.





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Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill has requested the FBI's assistance in the investigation into the arrest of a Utah nurse who refused to allow a blood draw from an unconscious patient without following proper procedure.

In a statement released Thursday, Gill said his office officially requested the FBI investigate: "any and all individuals involved in the chain of conduct arising from the incident at the University of Utah Hospital on July 26, 2017 for any Civil Rights Violations under the color of authority."

Gill said he requested the FBI's help due to events beyond a mere criminal investigation.

“There continue to be issues that go beyond merely a criminal investigation, and, in an effort to address those concerns, the Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office has formally asked for assistance from our Federal law enforcement partners to fully vet issues only they can investigate,” Gill stated. “The decision for this was arrived over the Labor Day weekend and a formal letter requesting this assistance was sent out Sept. 6, 2017."

The incident attracted nationwide attention and calls for action after videos of the arrest were released. In the video, Wubbels shows the officer a print out of the existing policy her hospital and the department had agreed to, which only allows blood draws from a patient who gives consent, who is under arrest, or if police obtain a warrant.

A supervisor speaking via speaker phone tells the officer that Wubbels is only the messenger and he is making a mistake "threatening a nurse", at which point Payne says "we're done" and arrests Wubbels, dragging her outside and pushing her against a wall before handcuffing her and taking her to a patrol car.

The statement from the DA's office noted they have received numerous requests for communication concerning the incident, and they ask that the community be patient.

"We assure them that this issue is of the utmost concern for us and we are committed to assuring a thorough, fair gathering and review of evidence, facts and issues," the statement concludes.

Gill opened a criminal investigation into the arrest earlier this month.

Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski and Police Chief Mike Brown both apologized to Wubbels personally shortly after the videos were released. Wubbels said she felt both apologies were sincere and that she looks forward to working with both to "promote further civil dialogue and education."

Det. Jeff Payne has been placed on full administrative leave with Salt Lake City Police, and has been fired from his part-time job at Gold Cross Ambulance.

http://fox13now.com/2017/09/07...bbels-investigation/



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Officer unFriendly has some 'splaining to do.

Pompous prick, along with his supervisor.

Reap it, bitches. Stupid hurts sometimes and I hope they get to experience some of the law they enjoy doling out.
 
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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:...In a statement released Thursday, Gill said his office officially requested the FBI investigate: "any and all individuals involved in the chain of conduct arising from the incident at the University of Utah Hospital on July 26, 2017 for any Civil Rights Violations under the color of authority."....

A supervisor speaking via speaker phone tells the officer that Wubbels is only the messenger and he is making a mistake "threatening a nurse", at which point Payne says "we're done" and arrests Wubbels, dragging her outside and pushing her against a wall before handcuffing her and taking her to a patrol car....


Seems to me Officer Payne's cesspool just got deeper.




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“There continue to be issues that go beyond merely a criminal investigation...


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Here is an interesting analysis





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Here is an interesting analysis

Just a bit >< hyperbolic.



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Again, why is this guy (and his accomplices) on paid vacation when they should be in a court room facing a jury?


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Maybe "Mussolini-Dudes"...

AKA the Blackshirts.



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Yes, I am so tired of hearing about Nazis, Facists and Hitler from the left.

They probably just love to talk about their heroes. It's normal.



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Maybe I am missing something, but what would be the basis for the warrant in this case? I may have missed something in the video, but I didn't see the truck driver doing anything wrong. It appeared that he was traveling in the proper lane when the bad guy swerved over and caused the collision. What was his suspicious or unlawful conduct?

I am glad this sorry cop and his supervisor were exposed, but what was so important that they needed to tank their careers?



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Again, why is this guy (and his accomplices) on paid vacation when they should be in a court room facing a jury?

He's entitled to due process like the nurse was.


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Again, why is this guy (and his accomplices) on paid vacation when they should be in a court room facing a jury?


And many in the law enforcement community wonder why there is so little trust between them and other citizens.


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I thought that body cameras were going to keep the honest people honest,

kind of like a lock on a door.

turns out that there are no where near the amount of honest people as we are led to believe





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Sure seems like the cop went hands-on awful soon. Couldn't he just have told her to turn around and place hands behind her back? Or did I miss that part in the vid I saw. Did she resist at all in a manner which would have warrented hands on?


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I thought that body cameras were going to keep the honest people honest,

kind of like a lock on a door.

turns out that there are no where near the amount of honest people as we are led to believe


I am bothered that the cameras can be turned off by the officers. Bad actors can manipulate situations by turning off the 'evidence' it seems.



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I am bothered that the cameras can be turned off by the officers. Bad actors can manipulate situations by turning off the 'evidence' it seems.


There are personal matters that officers need to attend to, personal hygiene for instance but even a lunch break. In addition there are considerations of the privacy rights of individuals not involved in a crime or an investigation. If I inquire of a cop if he got my donation to the policeman's ball, a donation made in good faith by me, I'm not going to be thrilled when its on utube and being twisted.
It would be even worse if I was ratting out Dom Perignon of the local familia and that got on the news with a FOIA request.

I suspect that the police unions are watching the matter closely to see what goes and doesn't. the coppers have rights too, even if the occasional bad actor gets a long-ton of bad press.


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Sure seems like the cop went hands-on awful soon. Couldn't he just have told her to turn around and place hands behind her back? Or did I miss that part in the vid I saw. Did she resist at all in a manner which would have warrented hands on?


This is why, a cartoon version of the cop.

 
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