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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by coloradohunter44:
I was at a gun show in Longmont back in the 80's. Picked up a sweet Marlin lever gun in 22 cal. Opened the action to clear it, and a round fell out. The guy managing the booth couldn't apologize enough. I left the show shortly thereafter. Stuff like this scares ya.

How about nearly being shot? I've written about my experience at a gun show before, when one of the vendors fired his 1911 at the floor in front of me and the bullet flew over my head. He was escorted out of the show and told never to return. I continued eating my BBQ sandwich.

flashguy

Richochet or really inaccurate?

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Originally posted by flashguy:
I continued eating my BBQ sandwich.

flashguy

Was it your 40,000th???

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Originally posted by flashguy:
I continued eating my BBQ sandwich.

flashguy

Was it your 40,000th???

No, and I had 2 that time.

slosig, I was sitting in the food court eating and the vendor came up to a friend at an adjacent table and was showing his 1911 to the friend. It went off, the bullet hit the floor under that table and bounced up and flew over my head. I hurriedly checked myself for additional holes, and finding none, I continued with my meal.

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:

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Originally posted by flashguy:
I continued eating my BBQ sandwich.

flashguy

Was it your 40,000th???

No, and I had 2 that time.

slosig, I was sitting in the food court eating and the vendor came up to a friend at an adjacent table and was showing his 1911 to the friend. It went off, the bullet hit the floor under that table and bounced up and flew over my head. I hurriedly checked myself for additional holes, and finding none, I continued with my meal.

flashguy

Didn’t see it; got it.

Texan by birth n’ rearing

Baldwin dropped out of the news fast. But, there's still news.

Alec Baldwin hires a former federal prosecutor to fight Rust lawsuits.

https://www.independent.co.uk/...torney-b1966408.html

I will point out that it's almost a month and a half after the event, and neither Baldwin nor anyone else has been arrested or indicted. The local LE may still be investigating, but the facts of this case, at least as it involves Baldwin, are pretty cut an dried. I think, at least from a criminal law standpoint, he walks. My guess the lawsuits will be quietly settled by the insurance companies.

^^^ did they do a BAC test on Baldwin. Seems like this should have been standard procedure, but maybe not. Maybe the field interview was good enough to know he was not drunk.

Seems pretty obvious the prosecutor is a democrat. Had it been an honest citizen, he'd be lucky to be out on bail.

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Seems pretty obvious the prosecutor is a democrat. Had it been an honest citizen, he'd be lucky to be out on bail.

Yes, Ms. Carmack-Altwies is a democrat within an elected position. She appears to be moving carefully and has dismissed sabotage. Next seems to be confirming the projectile was not a malfunctioning or mis-manufactured blank [my speculation]. -woodman

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Mary Carmack-Altwies (Democratic Party) is the New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney. Carmack-Altwies assumed office on January 1, 2021. Carmack-Altwies' current term ends on January 1, 2025. https://ballotpedia.org/Mary_Carmack-Altwies

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District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies is investigating the incident and has dismissed claims the incident was due to sabotage, refuting allegations made by the armourer's lawyer. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/ent...BNV25BC5H5QLLGWNPEU/ Nov. 10 2021

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SANTA FE, N.M. — The Santa Fe County district attorney said on Tuesday that she was not ruling out criminal charges in last week’s fatal shooting on a film set. .....

“We haven’t ruled out anything,” the district attorney, Mary Carmack-Altwies, said in a telephone interview. “Everything at this point, including criminal charges, is on the table.”

Ms. Carmack-Altwies said that the investigation was focusing on ballistics in an effort to determine what kind of round was in the gun that killed Halyna Hutchins, the cinematographer — and who had placed the ammunition in the gun.

“There were an enormous amount of bullets on this set, and we need to find out what kinds they were,” Ms. Carmack-Altwies said. Detectives said that they recovered three revolvers, spent casings and ammunition — in boxes, loose and in a fanny pack — while executing a search warrant on the set, according to an inventory of the items released on Monday. The inventory did not specify what kind of ammunition was found on the set.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/1...ng-alec-baldwin.html Nov. 3 2021

From The Wall Street Journal.
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Film’s Supplier Told of Building Live Rounds

A new affidavit released by authorities Tuesday offered the first possible explanations of how live ammunition ended up in a revolver fired by Alec Baldwin in a fatal shooting on the set of the film “Rust.”

A Santa Fe judge issued a warrant based on the affidavit which authorized law enforcement to search the office of a weapons supplier for the movie. A spokesman for the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office said detectives were executing the warrant later Tuesday.

The supplier, Seth Kenney, told investigators that reloaded ammunition, which are live rounds made by taking empty casings and installing a primer, gunpowder and a bullet, may have ended up on the set along with the dummy rounds and blanks he had provided, according to the search warrant affidavit signed by a detective with the sheriff’s office.

Mr. Kenney told investigators that the company whose ammunition components he used for the film, Starline Brass, didn’t sell live rounds, but that he had previously received from an unnamed friend reloaded ammunition that had the company’s logo on it, according to the affidavit. It was unclear from the affidavit if these were the same rounds that ended up on set.

Mr. Kenney didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

Starline Brass provides cartridge cases, commonly called “brass,” and often works with suppliers for film sets, said Matt Reams, the company’s sales manager. Mr. Reams said the company doesn’t sell live or reloaded ammunition.

The affidavit also included details from Thell Reed, an experienced Hollywood armorer who had previously worked with Mr. Kenney and is the father of the “Rust” armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed.

Mr. Reed told investigators that he worked with Mr. Kenney on a different production around August and September where actors trained with live ammunition at a shooting range, according to the affidavit. Mr. Reed said he brought an “ammo can” with live ammunition that wasn’t factory-made, with about 200 to 300 rounds in the can.

Mr. Kenney took the bullets with him after the training, according to Mr. Reed. They may match the ammunition found on the set of “Rust,” Mr. Reed told investigators.

The statements were included in an affidavit requesting a search warrant for the offices of Mr. Kenney’s business, PDQ Arm & Prop LLC.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff said Wednesday that a bullet recovered from “Rust” director Joel Souza’s shoulder is believed to have been fired from a revolver by Alec Baldwin during a rehearsal of the movie.

Ms. Gutierrez Reed’s lawyer Jason Bowles said in a statement that the search of Mr. Kenney’s office was a major step in figuring out how live rounds got onto the set. Mr. Reed didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The fatal shooting occurred Oct. 21 on the set of the Western movie being filmed in the Santa Fe, N.M., area. Mr. Baldwin, while preparing for a scene, discharged a live round from a revolver, resulting in the death of Halyna Hutchins, the 42-year-old cinematographer. The film’s director, Joel Souza, was also wounded. Authorities have been trying to figure out how live rounds ended up on the film set, which experienced production workers say is never supposed to happen.

Mr. Baldwin previously described the shooting as a tragic accident and expressed his shock and sadness at Ms. Hutchins’ death.

According to the affidavit, Mr. Kenney’s company was one of several sources of ammunition that the production’s prop master used for “Rust,” along with some she brought from a previous production and another individual identified only as Billy Ray.

The prop master didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

—Dan Frosch and Katherine Sayre
—Ben Kesling contributed to this article.

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Now he says he didn't pull the trigger. There seems to be some confusion over the mechanism of a SA revolver. Sorry Alec, you cocked it and pulled the trigger while pointing it at her.

https://wwmt.com/news/entertai...dwin-on-set-shooting

What a bunch of horse shit.

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Now he says he didn't pull the trigger. There seems to be some confusion over the mechanism of a SA revolver. Sorry Alec, you cocked it and pulled the trigger while pointing it at her.

https://wwmt.com/news/entertai...dwin-on-set-shooting

What a bunch of horse shit.

The worm squirms when hooked.

Kenney sounds like a real pro!

Didn't pull the trigger? Ha. The audacity.

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"I didn't pull the trigger," Baldwin said. "I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them. Never."

Saw a little bit of that. Terrible acting job.

He’s now trying to make himself out to be the victim here. Pathetic piece of shit

Probably shouldn’t be giving interviews.

Good line though, will go down in history just like ”I did not have sexual relations with that woman”

Colt SAA Guys (if thats what it was) step in and refresh my memory:
Should an SAA have a worn trigger / sear / hammer, and your thumb slips off the hammer during cocking, cant the half cock notch fail to engage and hold the hammer, thus allowing the hammer to go all the way forward and set off the cartridge?
When I had a Colt clone (Hawes Western Marshal) I was taught to never rely on the half cock notch for safety.
If so, Baldwin may not have pulled the trigger. But since he was cocking it, it would be a moot point anyway.

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Originally posted by NOCkid:
Now he says he didn't pull the trigger. There seems to be some confusion over the mechanism of a SA revolver. Sorry Alec, you cocked it and pulled the trigger while pointing it at her.

https://wwmt.com/news/entertai...dwin-on-set-shooting

What a bunch of horse shit.

Standard anti-gunner’s propaganda. It’s always the gun, not the person.

Bad gun! Think about what you’ve done!

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
The supplier, Seth Kenney, told investigators that reloaded ammunition, which are live rounds made by taking empty casings and installing a primer, gunpowder and a bullet, may have ended up on the set along with the dummy rounds and blanks he had provided, according to the search warrant affidavit signed by a detective with the sheriff’s office.

Mr. Kenney told investigators that the company whose ammunition components he used for the film, Starline Brass, didn’t sell live rounds, but that he had previously received from an unnamed friend reloaded ammunition that had the company’s logo on it, according to the affidavit. It was unclear from the affidavit if these were the same rounds that ended up on set.

Mr. Kenney didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

Starline Brass provides cartridge cases, commonly called “brass,” and often works with suppliers for film sets, said Matt Reams, the company’s sales manager. Mr. Reams said the company doesn’t sell live or reloaded ammunition.

This possibility, more or less, is along the lines of what sprngr posted on page 36 of this thread, in a series of interviews with a Hollywood actor who had worked on various movie sets with guns and now works as a reporter, and he mentioned that it was possible live ammo (with bullets) would be found on set so the armorer could deactivate them, pull the components, and make custom blanks for the movie.

Thanks for the article!