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Standard anti-gunner’s propaganda. It’s always the gun, not the person. Bad gun! Think about what you’ve done! | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
This possibility, more or less, is along the lines of what sprngr posted on page 36 of this thread, in a series of interviews with a Hollywood actor who had worked on various movie sets with guns and now works as a reporter, and he mentioned that it was possible live ammo (with bullets) would be found on set so the armorer could deactivate them, pull the components, and make custom blanks for the movie. Thanks for the article! | |||
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Even if this was true, he was still cocking the gun while pointing it people. You don’t point a gun at someone unless you intend/expect to shoot. No amount of scenarios of how the gun might have failed or how he might have fat fingered the hammer explain why when was pointing a gun at someone. If he wasn’t pointing the gun at people, it would have just been an embarrassing accidental discharge into the ground or a wall, and not be a homicide. | |||
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Yooper you are correct, yet if Baldwin had followed one of the rules no one should have been shot . All he had to do was not point the gun at a person. Or knowing your target and what is behind it. Here’s a good tutorial on the SAA… https://www.bevfitchett.us/col...ammer-positions.html "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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No doubt the revolver will be examined to see if it is in proper working condition. A single-action revolver doesn't just shoot itself, as we all know. Pretty lame, Alec. | |||
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Nope, he ABSOLUTELY SHOULD keep giving interviews! Keep talkin' Alec, just keep on talking! Let's see how far you can stick your foot in your mouth! I hope this alllll comes back to bite him on his ass! ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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It depends on the exact model of pistol he was using. If it was a modern Uberti SAA, the current models eliminate the safety notch and incorporate a spring-loaded retractable firing pin that only activates the firing pin when there is pressure on the trigger. An original 4-click Colt-style action can fire if the safety or half cock notches are broken and the hammer is allowed to fall, but that's a lot of things to fail. The classic scenario that led many to advocate carrying with the hammer on an empty chamber is possibility of the round being fired if the gun is dropped on the hammer in the safety notch position, which can easily break that notch and strike the primer. | |||
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The Western Marshal had a frame mounted firing pin and a flat hammer, but when uncocked, the firing pin rested on the primer. No transfer bar. Not drop safe. It was 4 click Colt in operation otherwise. I was unaware of the Uberti system. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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I thought one of the earlier articles said it was a Uberti. If that’s true, nice try liar, but no soap. | |||
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Didn’t pull the trigger. That’s his defense? What an absurdity. Is he trying to assert then, that the gun just “went off?” Or perhaps he will try and blame someone else for “setting him up”? Yes, by all means, let this backpedaling fool talk. Every word he utters makes him look like the liar he is. You would have thought at this point that his lawyer would have told him to shut the hell up (perhaps he did) but this arrogant asshole…just…can’t. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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If it was in fact a modern Uberti with the firing pin safety, his explanation is impossible. The gun will not fire without a finger applying pressure to the trigger. This video shows how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecOGRmMtFow | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
Actually, according to the first press conference held by the Santa Fe Sheriff and DA on 27 Oct., posted on page 28 of this thread, the gun that fired the fatal round was a Pietta . 45 LC, although the Sheriff didn't mention which model. Pietta USA | |||
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He has given multiple statements since the day this occurred and this is the first time he has said that he didn't pull the trigger? Yeah, right - if that were the case he would have been screaming that from the moment it happened. How utterly ridiculous and even more ridiculous that all his moron supporters, who know nothing about guns, have now latched on to this 'blame the gun' nonsense. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Indeed, this rings as incredibly hollow. Probably a ploy given to him by his lawyers to deflect personal responsibility and turn it into a case against the gun maker. Let's hope that this is the nail in the coffin for Alec's career.
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Desperate lies. He’s writhing. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Yeah, he's not doing himself any favors with such a statement after all this time. The revolver will likely be shown to be in proper working order. If that's the case, there are only two ways to make the hammer drop on that pistol; either the hammer is in the fully-cocked position and the trigger is pulled, or the trigger is held down and the hammer is pulled back to full cock and then let fall forward. In both of these scenarios, the trigger is being depressed. | |||
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Keep talking Alec, keep talking... | |||
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Coin Sniper |
Is there any shock? Hollywood is all about deception and stories. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Thanks for the correction MDS. I saw the same video but my alleged memory failed me.  Does the Pietta has an action more like the original or more like the Uberti? Curious… | |||
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| delicately calloused |
This is what it looks like when a self serving narcissist has to consider the inescapable consequences of his actions. He’ll deceive, he’ll distract, he’ll displace blame, he’ll diffuse blame, he’ll emote and finally he’ll feel sorry for himself even if through pity for how others will be affected by his punishment. No. This is likely the first time Baldwin will have to face the music with no escape. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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