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^^^^^maybe, with some training, like you said!
 
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DeSantis is to me like stuff on the bottom shelf of the grocery store - I know it's there but I'm just not feeling like I want to bend down and take a closer look.
 
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Here's something that DeSantis is right about, and probably something Trump will fix when he gets back in office:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...not-drain-swamp.html

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DeSantis says Trump shares blame for legal troubles because he had three years to fire FBI chief Christopher Wray, let Hillary Clinton off the hook - and failed to fire Soros-backed prosecutors

Ron DeSantis on Tuesday accused Donald Trump of being partly to blame for his mounting legal woes, insisting the former president failed to 'drain the swamp' while he had the power.

DeSantis spoke to Fox News host Laura Ingraham and said Trump should have fired Christopher Wray - nominated by Trump as FBI director in June 2017 - and prosecuted Hillary Clinton while he had the chance.

'He had three years to fire Christopher Wray and he didn't fire him,' said DeSantis.

'And remember, I went to the rallies in 2016, Laura. You remember them, lock her up, lock her up, about holding Hillary accountable.

'And then, two weeks after the election, he said never mind that I said that and let her off the hook.'

DeSantis, who is trailing Trump by a massive margin in the primary polls, and who on Monday was overtaken by Chris Christie in New Hampshire, said he accepted that Trump's White House was not a total failure.

But, he said, Trump administration failed to reform the Justice Department.

'I give him credit, even though we're competing, for the great things he did do,' said DeSantis.

'But one of the things he did not do was drain the swamp. The swamp got worse in his four years.

'And you had people like Wray, you had people in power who were not getting the job done. You've got to take very swift action and you've got to make it happen.'

DeSantis said that, as Governor of Florida, he had successfully 'cleaned' the state of officials he felt were not doing their job. DeSantis has removed county prosecutors from their roles and alleged lax penalties for criminals- but the moves garnered strong backlash.

He declared that he would fire Wray, who Trump appointed to replace James Comey, on his first day in office.

Trump promised to 'lock up' Hillary Clinton, but failed to find a way to prosecute her. The former Secretary of State appeared on MSNBC on Monday night, and was by chance on air as the fourth Trump indictment was announced
'With me as president, on day one, Christopher Wray gets sent packing,' said DeSantis.

'You're going to see the DOJ cleared out. We are going to ensure a single standard of justice in this country again.

'And I can say that with credibility because I've done that in the state of Florida.

'We've drained the swamp in here.

'We've gotten rid of negligent election supervisors in South Florida. We've removed two different progressive prosecutors funded by Soros who were not enforcing the law.

'So, I've shown an ability to take action and get the job done. And, as the president, I am going to do the same thing.'

DeSantis spoke as Trump, who on Monday was indicted for the fourth time on criminal charges, demanded his trials be delayed until after the 2024 election.

The 77-year-old has called the prosecutors 'deranged' and 'rabid partisans', and claimed they were set on a 'witch hunt'.

He is now formally charged with attempting to overturn Georgia's 2020 vote; trying to invalidate the entire 2020 election; mishandling classified information; and breaking campaign finance laws by making hush money payments to a porn star.

On Tuesday night Trump spoke out in a video posted to his social media channels, and used the moment to slam Biden and his 'crime family.'

Trump declared that Biden was 'a Manchurian Candidate' - his new favorite insult - and claimed that the president was being controlled by China.

He also demanded, in an earlier post on Tuesday, that his trials be held after the 2024 election.

'It is now 100 percent that the Biden crime family received more than $20 million from foreign countries while crooked Joe was vice president - and probably a lot more than that; that's just the money they've found,' Trump began.

'Not one of Joe Biden's defenders has even attempted to explain what Joe and his family did, including his children and his grandchildren - what were they doing to get all this money?

'I believe we have a compromised president. He was bribed and now he is being blackmailed. He's a Manchurian Candidate.'

The term 'Manchurian Candidate' comes from a 1959 novel by Richard Condon, which tells of the son of a prominent U.S. political dynasty who is brainwashed into being an unwitting assassin for a Communist conspiracy.

The thriller has been turned into several films - most recently in 2004, starring Denzel Washington, Liev Schreiber and Meryl Streep.

'That's why crooked Joe is letting other countries walk all over the United States,' said Trump.

'He's petrified of China because they know exactly how much money has been given to him, and they know where it is. China has paid him a fortune.'

Trump said Biden shut down 'my initiative targeting Chinese spies in the United States' and 'let China off the hook for COVID', allowing the Chinese to set up bases in Cuba and Taiwan.

He added: 'Crooked Joe's corruption is a glaring threat to national security,' and predicted 'World War Three with this grossly incompetent man'.

Trump said 'as soon as I am re-elected' he will appoint a special counsel 'to look at all these bribes and kick-backs.'

'They are trying to stop me. The one person they don't want to run is Donald Trump,' the former president added.

Earlier on Tuesday, he demanded the trials be held after the election.

'All of these Biden Administration bogus trials and cases, including the locals, should be brought after the 2024 Presidential Election,' he wrote on Truth Social.

'What they have done is already Election Interference, but if the trials are held before the Election, then it would be Interference on a scale never seen in our Country before.'

Trump on Monday was criminally indicted for the fourth time, with a grand jury in Georgia deciding he warranted trial with 18 other on charges related to trying to overturn the 2020 election.

The charges, brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, charge the 19 for a scheme intended to reverse Trump's loss to Biden.

The sprawling 98-page indictment listed 19 defendants and 41 criminal counts in all.

All the defendants were charged with racketeering, which is used to target members of organized crime groups and carries a minimum penalty of five years in prison.

Trump was charged with 13 of the 41 counts: if convicted on all charges, he faces more than 70 years in prison.

Mark Meadows, Trump's former White House chief of staff, and lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and John Eastman were among those charged.

'Rather than abide by Georgia's legal process for election challenges, the defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise to overturn Georgia's presidential election result,' Willis said at a press conference just before midnight.

Trump and the other defendants have until noon EDT on Friday, Aug. 25, to surrender voluntarily, rather than face arrest, Willis said.

She said she intends to try all 19 defendants together within six months.

Court records show the case has been assigned to Judge Scott McAfee, a former prosecutor appointed in February by Republican Governor Brian Kemp.

He will seek election next year to retain his position.

Unlike the federal courts where Trump is also awaiting trial, Georgia state courts allow television cameras, meaning the public could have the unprecedented spectacle of watching a former president's trial on live TV as his campaign for a return to the White House goes into high gear.
 
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^^^^^^^^^

DeSantis would never drain the swamp, because he is part of it now, the deep state is financing him. He made a deal with the devil, and there is no backing out now.



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DeSantis would never drain the swamp, because he is part of it now, the deep state is financing him.

Yeah... it's a shame, but that's where his money is coming from. It's also why he flip-flopped on Ukraine and why he suddenly sees no election fraud.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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^^^ And honestly, I think he was a decent guy. I hope he loses sleep over his recent decisions.




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Note that Donald Trump has more support than all other primary candidates combined!


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Also note that Vivek has doubled his support percentage! Cool


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Like he went after Hillary?
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You seriously think Trump wouldn't go after the Bidens even if he makes Vivek VP?




Phone's ringing, Dude.
 
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Yes I think he would. Why? He doesn’t have to worry about setting a terribly divisive precedent, the democrats foolishly already made that mistake.


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Like he went after Hillary?
Cut it out

This is a silly tangent. Time to move on.
 
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You have to relish the freedom and lack of fucks to give with Trump in a second term at his age. He doesn't have to make money on the book or lecture circuit, doesn't care about a library, etc. He can just burn it all down and smile.
 
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Can anyone tell me where this moment stands in the history of America compared to all others?


Because I’m at a loss. I honestly don’t know what’s happening next.





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Can anyone tell me where this moment stands in the history of America compared to all others?


Because I’m at a loss. I honestly don’t know what’s happening next.
The decade before the American Civil War
 
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Can anyone tell me where this moment stands in the history of America compared to all others?


Because I’m at a loss. I honestly don’t know what’s happening next.
The decade before the American Civil War
Frown Dang Para, I hate to see you say that. As is usually the case with your more somber predictions, I hope to gosh that you’re wrong, but I suspect that you’re right.
 
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There is no longer any common ground and with each passing day, the divide becomes greater. There is only one remedy. It is only a matter of time.
 
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^^^ Yeah, the Patriot Act allowed the government to spy on US citizens under the banner of 'domestic terrorist'. The Obama administration changed the definition of 'domestic terrorist' to include Catholics, gun owners, etc. Basically anyone who disagreed with them politically was considered a potential terrorist. Biden is merely the puppet for the Obama administration to have a 3rd term. It really ramped up with the Covid policy. They were able to purge conservatives from the military. The entire government is now a criminal enterprise, against half of the population.

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Granted, the Wuhan lab leak was the most deadly and destructive human-caused disaster in history. A hundred percent. But now consider this: the Wuhan lab leak also dynamited the lid right off the most corrupt worldwide fascist enterprise in history. It also turned peoples’ hearts and minds against the largest, most well-respected and most corrupt human institutions on the planet, like the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control, the Gates Foundation, and the so-called United Nations.

We still have a long way to go, but by their inherently unstable design, massive corrupt conspiracies must fail. They can only grow by adding people in two incompetent categories: (1) useful idiots — who are idiots after all, and (2) corrupt people, who are always ultimately ungovernable.

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Can anyone tell me where this moment stands in the history of America compared to all others?


Too many similarities to the Chinese revolution for comfort.
 
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Unlike the federal courts where Trump is also awaiting trial, Georgia state courts allow television cameras, meaning the public could have the unprecedented spectacle of watching a former president's trial on live TV as his campaign for a return to the White House goes into high gear.



Clearly the reason for filing suit at the state level in GA where they are assured all the Left Stream Media will simulcast the whole trial then spend all day during the trial with commentary by leftist television pundits.

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Biden is merely the puppet for the Obama administration to have a 3rd term.


When Trump said Buyden was a puppet of China I felt he missed an opportunity to point out that Buyden is also a puppet of the Obama's and running the Obama playbook for "fundamentally changing the US" which means being forced to accept things you don't agree with or suffer the consequences.
 
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