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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:It's an honest question, since there are people who simply CAN NOT wear a face diaper.

Who? If there are any, aren't there medical exceptions for them?

I have a medical exception, and I do not have to explain to anyone what my disability is. The maskholes who push the masks, cannot think 2" outside themselves and their limited understanding of the world as they see it from their vast perspective. All they see is shit, because their heads are firmly up either their own assets, or someone elses.

So an actual MD/DO has told you that you cannot wear a mask, for even a brief period of time? Huh. I have heart disease, asthma and previously cancer and manage to do so without any trouble at all. You must be seriously messed up. Yet you seem so invested in condemning masks for anyone else.

Just as I figured, somehow the mask disability is special.

Good for you, you CAN wear a mask, others simply CAN NOT.
Do you make it a habit to harass other handicap people of their shortcomings?
Why is the mask handicap special, why must people be harassed for this particular handicap?

I assume you don't go around asking people in wheelchairs to WALK inside the store.
Or make people leave their walking canes in the car, afterall, they could be used as a weapon!

Do you make it a point to ask if someone's dog is a service dog?
And then ask what tasks it can perform?
You do realized there are strict laws pertaining to such questions?

Somehow they are more important, special, privileged or exempt from harassment?

There are medical and mental reasons for people not to be ble to wear a face diaper.
But for some reason, people can't think outside their little world and accept the fact, people are different and as such have different requirements/needs.

^^^^^^^^^^ Because the mask is political. They made your behavior responsible for others’ health. That is a first. It is a colossal blunder to have accepted that false premise. Now the barn door is wide open and the sky is limit to their ability to tie your liberty to others’ well being.

A lot of folks should just stay home and hide under their beds with their ignorance and cowardice.
They seem too soft and fragile for this world.

Reading your comments in this thread is funny, b/c they're classic ad hominem attacks and emotional appeals that you know, are supposed to be the go-to methods of snowflake pinko commie liberals.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
A lot of folks should just stay home and hide under their beds with their ignorance and cowardice.
They seem too soft and fragile for this world.

This is the same thing anti-gun people say about gun owners. Gun people are igonorant. Gun people are cowards. If you're so afraid of what's out in the world that you can't leave your house unarmed, then maybe you should stay locked up in your fortress.

What are the odds of being in a justified defensive-use-of-gun situation vs contracting Covid? You make your own risk assessment and choose to carry or mask-up. You can do so while still respecting others' decisions.

If a business prohibits guns or requires mask-wearing, that's their prerogative. You shouldn't even need a law to deter you. We used to call this common courtesy and respecting other people's property.

And for chrissakes, I'm not referring to the minority of COPD sufferers or toddlers who can't wear a mask.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
Reading your comments in this thread is funny, b/c they're classic ad hominem attacks and emotional appeals that you know, are supposed to be the go-to methods of snowflake pinko commie liberals.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
A lot of folks should just stay home and hide under their beds with their ignorance and cowardice.
They seem too soft and fragile for this world.

This is the same thing anti-gun people say about gun owners. Gun people are igonorant. Gun people are cowards. If you're so afraid of what's out in the world that you can't leave your house unarmed, then maybe you should stay locked up in your fortress.

What are the odds of being in a justified defensive-use-of-gun situation vs contracting Covid? You make your own risk assessment and choose to carry or mask-up. You can do so while still respecting others' decisions.

If a business prohibits guns or requires mask-wearing, that's their prerogative. You shouldn't even need a law to deter you. We used to call this common courtesy and respecting other people's property.

And for chrissakes, I'm not referring to the minority of COPD sufferers or toddlers who can't wear a mask.

The difference is that I cannot mandate that someone "carry and arm themselves." That is a HUGE difference.

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:It's an honest question, since there are people who simply CAN NOT wear a face diaper.

Who? If there are any, aren't there medical exceptions for them?

I have a medical exception, and I do not have to explain to anyone what my disability is. The maskholes who push the masks, cannot think 2" outside themselves and their limited understanding of the world as they see it from their vast perspective. All they see is shit, because their heads are firmly up either their own assets, or someone elses.

So an actual MD/DO has told you that you cannot wear a mask, for even a brief period of time? Huh. I have heart disease, asthma and previously cancer and manage to do so without any trouble at all. You must be seriously messed up. Yet you seem so invested in condemning masks for anyone else.

You sure come across as a peach of joy.
Yes. I've been told by a medical professional that I should not wear a mask for any extended period of time. That's the short answer, and more than you deserve, and more than ANY business has right to ask.

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:

There are medical and mental reasons for people not to be ble to wear a face diaper.
But for some reason, people can't think outside their little world and accept the fact, people are different and as such have different requirements/needs.

Thank you.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
A lot of folks should just stay home and hide under their beds with their ignorance and cowardice.
They seem too soft and fragile for this world.

Probably because most of them are way too busy worrying about what you are doing, and demanding the government make you comply with restrictions to your Rights.

If it saves one life......

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:There are medical and mental reasons for people not to be ble to wear a face diaper.

I'm thinking it's a lot more "mental" than "medical." Your reference to "a face diaper" is prima facie evidence thereof.

^^^You are WAY the FUCK OUT of LINE here!

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:There are medical and mental reasons for people not to be ble to wear a face diaper.

I'm thinking it's a lot more "mental" than "medical." Your reference to "a face diaper" is prima facie evidence thereof.

Masks don't do SHIT. EVERYONE was wearing a mask for the last year and people are still getting COVID. The latest studies from MIT confirm that "social distancing" and wearing a mask indoors DOESN'T DO SHIT. The only "mental" people are dipshits who think wearing a mask is preventing COVID. Matter of fact the dipshits who get COVID are these "mental maskers" who think that wearing one makes them invincible while the "anti-mask" people are staying the fuck out of public places so who's the real problem here spreading COVID? The studies back this up.

I've been flying back and forth from Puerto Rico to the states while I make my move. I've been eating out every single night I've been down here and I've spent over $1,000 on voluntary travel PCR tests for flying and guess what... not a single positive in months. BTW I never cover my nose when I wear my mask. Sue me, I've yet to get COVID.

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:There are medical and mental reasons for people not to be ble to wear a face diaper.

I'm thinking it's a lot more "mental" than "medical." Your reference to "a face diaper" is prima facie evidence thereof.

Oh, did I strike a nerve?
Did the facts get your panties all in a bunch?

One could say the fear required to make one wear a mask could be a mental condition.

Maybe we could all chip in and get you a bubble, so you can feel safe going out into the big world.

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Toplessness and more specifically female toplessness is not illegal in most places. The laws vary widely throughout the country. The trend over the years has been to legalize female toplessness as long as it's not in a lewd & lascivious manner. That's partly why uncovered breastfeeding in public is legal practically nationwide (there's probably an exception somewhere if you look hard).

Now what if you're in a place w/ laws against female toplessness in public places. Can a woman be topless in a Walmart or similar private property open to the public if she has the store's permission? That's going to depend where it happens and the local laws, so I would say it's incorrect to say that's a hard no.

Granted it's been a few years, but I ran a company that employed (actually they were independent contractors) hundreds of topless women. I'm pretty familiar with the laws governing toplessness, at least here in the midwest. And you're mostly wrong. Women can not go topless, legally, in "most places" regardless of the permission of the property owner. Especially when "in public".

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No other options? Confused That's a bit of hyperbole, don't you think? Delivery, curbside pick-up, online banking, ATMs... Are those that not available in St Charles, MO? Businesses have been bending over backwards to stay in business and accommodate Covid fears.

Got it. So we should have separate classes of citizens based on their mask wearing habits. One class can carry on with their lives normally should they bow to the nonsense, and those who refuse to bow can maybe, possibly be serviced in some different fashion.

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Please provide some of these examples of people being arrested for wearing protective masks during Covid times.

What does Covid have to do with it? How is it covering ones face is dangerous to a business in 2019, and not covering one face is dangerous to a business in 2020? Can't have it both ways.

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So you admit you don't respect other people's wishes on their property. I'm not sure that's something to be proud of. Is your office open to the public? How would you feel about some guy treading mud in there and farting up a storm while declaring he's exercising his Constitutional right to free passage?

Perhaps you don't see any differences between "private property", "private property open to the public", and "private property, open to members of the public". But I do.

My business is "not open to the public". Walmart is "open to the public". And I'm a big supporter of private property rights, along with supporting the public's access to private property open to the public.

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What are the odds of being in a justified defensive-use-of-gun situation vs contracting Covid? You make your own risk assessment and choose to carry or mask-up. You can do so while still respecting others' decisions.

If a business prohibits guns or requires mask-wearing, that's their prerogative. You shouldn't even need a law to deter you. We used to call this common courtesy and respecting other people's property.

In all this, keep in mind that the mask protects others from you and does nothing to protect you. Changes the entire argument.

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keep in mind that the mask protects others from you and does nothing to protect you. Changes the entire argument.

It would change the argument if it were true, but I have two problems with it.

The first being that there's no real evidence that a mask prevents an infected person from infecting you. I would agree that it likely "helps to protect" but it doesn't "protect". I also mentioned things like staying at home, walking backwards, breathing half as much, and not speaking. Staying at home actually would "protect" you from giving it to me, and the others would "help protect", but I'm not seeing any of the pro mask people doing any of those things. Why not? Plenty of people have spread Covid while mask wearing, even with both parties were masked.

Second, you can't protect me from something you don't have, and the vast majority of people do not have Covid. You could have an entire stadium full of people without Covid, coughing and hacking all over each other, and none of them will spread Covid.

Perhaps it's different where you are, but we have a large local county that has been tracking things pretty well. I know the numbers aren't accurate, but let's take them at face value. Since the very beginning to today, roughly 7% of our local population has tested positive. That's over a year worth of exposure, and 93 out of 100 people have never had it. That's 93 out of 100 that a mask has done or would have done absolutely nothing for.

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:There are medical and mental reasons for people not to be ble to wear a face diaper.

I'm thinking it's a lot more "mental" than "medical." Your reference to "a face diaper" is prima facie evidence thereof.

Oh, did I strike a nerve?
Did the facts get your panties all in a bunch?

One could say the fear required to make one wear a mask could be a mental condition.

Maybe we could all chip in and get you a bubble, so you can feel safe going out into the big world.

What facts have you presented? What mental conditions prevent someone from wearing a mask?

Thanks for the offer, but having been vaccinated I feel quite safe.

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What facts have you presented? What mental conditions prevent someone from wearing a mask?

Claustrophobia is a very mean bitch. Paralyzing to some. Nothing more than a mental condition right? How about those that have experienced a rape while someone covered their mouth and nose? Have you ever been choked out? Nearly drowned? Caught in a raging fire inhaling smoke to the point you couldn't breathe? There are many instances where someone could experience a mental episode, even outside of those examples I just gave. Pull your head out of your ass!

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Perhaps it's different where you are, but we have a large local county that has been tracking things pretty well. I know the numbers aren't accurate, but let's take them at face value. Since the very beginning to today, roughly 7% of our local population has tested positive. That's over a year worth of exposure, and 93 out of 100 people have never had it. That's 93 out of 100 that a mask has done or would have done absolutely nothing for.

This. 7% in 13+months.

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Originally posted by kidcop:
What facts have you presented? What mental conditions prevent someone from wearing a mask?

Claustrophobia is a very mean bitch. Paralyzing to some. Nothing more than a mental condition right? How about those that have experienced a rape while someone covered their mouth and nose? Have you ever been choked out? Nearly drowned? Caught in a raging fire inhaling smoke to the point you couldn't breathe? There are many instances where someone could experience a mental episode, even outside of those examples I just gave. Pull your head out of your ass!

Stop pulling amorphous suppositions out of yours. If you don't have quantitative data, you don't have dick.

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Originally posted by kidcop:
What facts have you presented? What mental conditions prevent someone from wearing a mask?

Claustrophobia is a very mean bitch. Paralyzing to some. Nothing more than a mental condition right? How about those that have experienced a rape while someone covered their mouth and nose? Have you ever been choked out? Nearly drowned? Caught in a raging fire inhaling smoke to the point you couldn't breathe? There are many instances where someone could experience a mental episode, even outside of those examples I just gave. Pull your head out of your ass!

Stop pulling amorphous suppositions out of yours. If you don't have quantitative data, you don't have dick.

That's pretty cold, kidcop. Dental practices in MN are required to post "mask required" signs at the door. I'm not in favor of government mask mandates, but also don't want to get my license pulled over it. Having said that, I've had a handful of patients/parents say they simply aren't able to do so. One of them was a patient's mom who confided in my receptionist that it was due to a past rape. Now, I have no idea if that is true, but I'm sure as heck not going to ask her to prove it. From a practical standpoint, my staff and I are masked up in N95s and her daughter will be putting the same (potential) Covid particles into the air as mom would be as soon as I start working on her. They obviously rode to the appointment together and didn't wear masks in the car.

We have masks available at the door, but if someone says they can't do it, that's it. We bring them back to the treatment area and get on with the appointment. None of my business to dig deeper.