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Well, there’s certainly no political agenda or big money involved with religion. Right? | |||
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If you haven’t already done so, please read my post on Gibraltar. They are at 85% of adults fully vaccinated. The US is at 37% fully vaccinated. Nowhere near where we need to be to put this behind us. My wife and I are fully vaccinated and we recently went to see some good friends who are also fully vaccinated. We stayed for several hours without masks. No worries. But so many people are refusing to get the vaccine that others are at risk. | |||
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What happened to herd immunity from people catching it | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
If you’re out to just act like a douche, it’s working. We get it, you’ve got an agenda. | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
Yes. Why not? Property rights are quite strong in the U.S. If I call the cops because your wife (or you) is topless in my business, they will remove you because you are trespassing and I said I don't want you there. Not because of your lack of clothing. Anti-nudity laws apply to public spaces, like the sidewalk. To the extent any anti nudity laws purport to apply to my business place, they are unconstitutional. I can throw you off my property for preaching if I like, despite the existence of the freedom of speech and religion. The bill of rights protects us against the government, not against each other. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Well, you certainly have your head up your ass. Talk about a non sequitur. Well done. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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My only agenda is the pursuit of the truth. You said: “Until there is no political and financial motivation in dealing with a virus that 99.9 percent of all people survive, you are simply tilting a windmills, at best in claiming anything as fact.” Do you not think that there is money involved in organized religion? From the Pope to evangelical mega preachers like Joel Osteen? Have you read the recent articles about the private jets of these mega preachers? Have you ever been to the Vatican? I have. I would guess that there is more wealth stored in that one place than in some third world countries. With all of that wealth in play, how can you trust what you are being told? | |||
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For fucks sake. If I were wearing that contraption my anxiety would ratchet up to 11 and I'd be clawing my skin off like a dope fiend on a bad trip. Let's just stop this right now before its to late (if it isn't all ready). ___________________________________Sigforum - port in the fake news storm.____________Be kind to the Homeless. A lot of us are one bad decision away from there. | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Me deciding to practice my Constitutional Rights to worship don’t have a fucking thing to do with church finances or agenda. As I said, if you’re out to act like a douche, it’s working. It’s obvious that you are clueless, I don’t go to church for them to teach me anything. I go to church for my own reasons and it has nothing to do with jet airplanes or any of the of the other foolishness you brought up in your desperate attempt to defend a position that can’t be defended. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Yes, it's so much more comforting when our way of life and freedoms are trodden on by private businesses instead of the government. This squishy shit is why conservatives are losing the culture war. We've acquiesced everything to these huge corporations on this misguided notion that just as long as it's not the huge federal government imposing these restrictions, all is well. The federal government also exists to preserve our God given rights. I think Ron DeSantis had it right when he suggested that he doesn't think it's ok for these businesses to require vaccine passports for instance just so Americans can go about their day and do everyday things. Furthermore, he suggested that the state government may have to step in and prevent that from happening. Good. That is righteous and that is the proper use of his political power. It is nigh damn time that conservatives start wielding the political power that we have before we lose it, because the left sure as hell is not shy about wielding their political power. And they now wield that power through giant corporations while in league with the government. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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That speaks volumes. If you already have all of the answers, then why do you need to go to church? Now, please realize that I couldn’t care less why you go to church, or if you go at all. I am asking why you believe that, given the big money involved, you think that the CDC, the Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, et al, are lying, but that your church is telling you the truth? What criteria do you use to discern what is real and what is BS? | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the constitution. Whether it is me in my living room, or Target in its store, we generally have the right to control who uses our property and under what conditions. As an example, here is the text of the first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Congress is limited. Not me. Not you. Not Target. Do you advocate forcing you to allow a mullah chanting prayers on your front lawn? Why is Target any different? The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Your ignorance in this regard is quite profound. Wow. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
You can see at this point he’s just trolling. If you look up his history, he’s trolling any thread that has to do with COVID. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
In the immortal words of The Dude, that's like, your opinion, man. You seem to have the notion that a corporation like Target can practically do whatever they want to their customers as long as that customer is on their property and wants to do business with them. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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You can call me a troll. No worries. This is a discussion board and you may say what you wish (as long as it’s not prohibited by the terms of service). But you still have not answered my question. What criteria do you use to distinguish data that is real from BS? | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
You mean "the waiver"? __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
WTF...Why are you attacking religion? Religion has absolutely NOTHING to do with this, unless you take into account that the Gov't is Restricting and/or Prohibiting the 'Free Exercise Thereof'! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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I've been to buildings that prohibit the wearing of hats indoors and enforce it very strictly. I've been to restaurants, studios, & dojos that require everyone to remove their shoes upon entering. I've been to gyms w/ big signs that read, "No cleats. Only shoes w/ non-marking outsoles," to protect their floors. "No shirts, no shirt, no service," has been a popular convention for ages. I don't understand why a business exercising a, "No mask, no entry," policy is so difficult to grasp. You don't have a Constitutional right to be on their property, and you're free to take your business elsewhere. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
First and Foremost, it needs to pass the sniff test. Much of what's been imposed MAKES NO SENSE, just from a Pure Logic standpoint! Stated another way, I know Bullshit when I see it! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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