They can't own property.
Not allowed to reproduce.
There is an "air tax".
Must avert their eyes when encountering non-Christians.
And not aloud to mix Hummus with Pita.

Probably more.


And for the record, more people "hate" me because I am an asshole, than because I am a Jew.

The former is much more obvious.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
These threads always seem to smoke out the antisemites...a good thing.

No kidding. Several have showed their asses.

Hopefully they will be shown the door.



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Why show them the door?? They have every right to expose themselves for what they are.

Religious Wars: My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend.

I believe it's a spiritual thing in large part.

Satan hates that God chose them and not HIM.

Satan influences people who let him and his hate comes through them.

You see it all throughout history.

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Why does the World hate Jews?

Because most of our world follows false gods.

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And for the record, more people "hate" me because I am an asshole, than because I am a Jew.
The former is much more obvious.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:

D) To say there isn't a Jewish race, is bizarre. You can be genetically Jewish. You cannot be genetically Lutheran.

Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.

Jewish is a religion. Some Jews are Europeans, some are Middle Easterners, some are Africans, etc. There isn't a Jewish gene. A Polish Jew's genes look just like a Polish Catholic's.

And most every group views the "other" as lesser beings. Ever examine Japanese attitudes about Westerners? Aren't we Americans pretty convinced we are the best?

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Aren't we Americans pretty convinced we are the best?

Actually, no, we are not. If it were only that simple, a lot of things about our society would be very different.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Aglifter:

D) To say there isn't a Jewish race, is bizarre. You can be genetically Jewish. You cannot be genetically Lutheran.

Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.

Jewish is a religion. Some Jews are Europeans, some are Middle Easterners, some are Africans, etc. There isn't a Jewish gene. A Polish Jew's genes look just like a Polish Catholic's.

And most every group views the "other" as lesser beings. Ever examine Japanese attitudes about Westerners? Aren't we Americans pretty convinced we are the best?

How did it come out that Sen. George Allen was part Jewish?

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During the 2006 senatorial campaign, it was revealed that Allen's mother, Henrietta Lumbroso, was born to Sephardic Jewish parents in Tunisia.

wikipedia

What happened to the 12 tribes?

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Aglifter:

D) To say there isn't a Jewish race, is bizarre. You can be genetically Jewish. You cannot be genetically Lutheran.

Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.

Jewish is a religion. Some Jews are Europeans, some are Middle Easterners, some are Africans, etc. There isn't a Jewish gene. A Polish Jew's genes look just like a Polish Catholic's.

And most every group views the "other" as lesser beings. Ever examine Japanese attitudes about Westerners? Aren't we Americans pretty convinced we are the best?

I know Jewish is a religion, but when I got my 23 and Me report back, it said I'm 4.3% Ashkenazi Jew.

I'm fully embracing my Jewish heritage. I took to wearing a yarmulke at Mass.

Well, although Judaism is a religion, I am pretty sure that "the Jews" also regard themselves as a distinct genetic heritage that is sometimes called "a race".
They are the descendants of Abraham, through Isaac (not Ishmael), and the 12 tribes of Israel comprise the descendants of Jacob's 12 sons (or something like that )

Whether it is a "race" or not probably depends on whether we take a strictly biology/scientific point of view or a more "common usage" point of view of language:
"A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society."

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
They can't own property.
Not allowed to reproduce.
There is an "air tax".
Must avert their eyes when encountering non-Christians.
And not aloud to mix Hummus with Pita.

Probably more.


And for the record, more people "hate" me because I am an asshole, than because I am a Jew.

The former is much more obvious.

...and this offends you as a Jew?

No, it offends me as a comedian!

-Seinfeld

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...evolution_of_1918–19

Read through the list of leaders.

Are you freaking kidding me?

100+ Paragraphs which only mentions Jews twice in a single sentence talking about two socialist parties blaming the Jews for the fall of the Weimar Republic and eventual victory by Hitler's Party. Try again bud.

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The Weimar Republic was always under great pressure from both left-wing and right-wing extremists. The left-wing extremists accused the ruling Social Democrats of having betrayed the ideals of the workers' movement by preventing a communist revolution and unleashing the Freikorps upon the workers. Right-wing extremists were opposed to any democratic system, preferring instead an authoritarian state similar to the Empire founded in 1871. To further undermine the Republic's credibility, right-wing extremists (especially certain members of the former officer corps) used the Dolchstoßlegende to blame an alleged conspiracy of Socialists and Jews for Germany's defeat in World War I, largely drawing fuel from the fact that eight out of the ten leaders of the communist revolution were Jewish. Both sides were determined to bring down the Weimar Republic. In the end, the right-wing extremists were successful, and the Weimar Republic came to an end with the ascent of Hitler and the National Socialist Party.

Reading this you would think that Fascists were right wing. So after reading that statement, I would not put any faith in anything in that article.

How does one "Hate" millions of people? It's so bizarre to me.

Is it really that easy for people to hate? Is their threshold so low as to justify hatred.

How can one ethically and intellectually pass such judgement?

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There isn't a Jewish gene.

There are some diseases that Jewish people are more likely to have. They test us for this type of stuff when we get married and have kids. Certainly we aren't predisposed to certain illness because of our belief system. .

Further, I would argue that being Jewish is more than just Religion. We identify as a culture, a tradition, a people that are tied to a specific land. More so, I'd argue, than any other religious group.

Arguing whether or not this qualifies as a race may just be semantics.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Aglifter:

D) To say there isn't a Jewish race, is bizarre. You can be genetically Jewish. You cannot be genetically Lutheran.

Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.

Jewish is a religion. Some Jews are Europeans, some are Middle Easterners, some are Africans, etc. There isn't a Jewish gene. A Polish Jew's genes look just like a Polish Catholic's.

And most every group views the "other" as lesser beings. Ever examine Japanese attitudes about Westerners? Aren't we Americans pretty convinced we are the best?

You're talking about a group of people who have been actively tracing their history for a few thousand years. Bet your ass there's some genomes there. Where groups of people occur, and continue to identify as a group, subsets of genetics do follow. This is science and math, not law.

As to the main point of the thread, in my 35 years, I've met exactly one openly anti-semitic person. Just one guy who loves to rail on and on about Jews. It's his thing. He's a Ukranian orphan who grew up in a Russian orphanage until he was adopted by a US couple in El Paso. His Spanish is almost as good as his English, and I can't gauge how good his Russian and Ukranian are since I don't speak them, but I've heard him converse with Russian customers and there's a lot of winking and laughing.

He has a serious burr under his saddle about Jews. I asked him why once, and he looked at me like I sprouted two extra heads. "If you have to ask why, you've been brainwashed by the Zionists." He treated me with an air of benign pity afterwards. I still don't get it.

Now, as to why he is the way he is, I have done my own research into the eastern front WWII stuff and found some pretty horrific stuff about Ukraine and what they were all too happy to do with their Jews. Watched the footage of men dressed similarly, almost indistinguishable from each other, with one beating the other to death in the muddy thoroughfare with a wooden board. German occupiers standing by, filming. Some of these men became SS, which was all-volunteer, and happily hunted down and rousted out their neighbors, and beat women and children to death in the streets, or lined them up in front of trenches and shot them, sprinkled lime over coughing, choking infants that time and bullets couldn't be spent on.

I can't imagine seeing another person as so debased as to be worthy of that treatment. And yet, all through Poland, Ukraine, and Russia, locals participated in anti-Jewish pograms. Not just once, not just a few times. I just don't understand it, and it seems to be a cultural thing, if my former coworker is any indicator.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
The "Jews" did NOT kill Jesus. The Romans did.

So you're saying the Romans would've crucified Jesus without the Jews' involvement?

If my reading of the Bible has any bearing on this, the Romans crucified Jesus. But they did so because the Sanhedrin (the ruling council of Jewish communities) condemned him (Mark 14:53-65 NIV). Even Pontius Pilate asked for a way out, saying he had "no basis for a charge against him" (John 18:38). When he offered to release Jesus as was the custom, Pilate asked the crowd, "Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?" (Matthew 27:17-19). "Which of the two do you want me to release to you?" asked the governor.

"Barrabas," they answered.

"What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?" Pilate asked.

They all answered, "Crucify him."

"Why? What crime has he committed?" asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, "Crucify him!" (Matthew 27:21-23)

It was then that Pilate washed his hands and proclaimed, "It is your responsibility."

All the people answered, "His blood is on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

And there you have it.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.

Jewish is a religion. Some Jews are Europeans, some are Middle Easterners, some are Africans, etc. There isn't a Jewish gene. A Polish Jew's genes look just like a Polish Catholic's.

And most every group views the "other" as lesser beings. Ever examine Japanese attitudes about Westerners? Aren't we Americans pretty convinced we are the best?

My full-blooded Great Lakes Potawatomi uncle will be thrilled to hear that his heritage is based on religion and not blood. I'll let him know that you said so.

I think you're all over thinking it. Or maybe I'm oversimplifying.

When someone has a bad experience or two with someone, and that someone is attached to a group, it's common for people to attach that dislike to the whole group.

Example: Philadelphia Eagles fans hate Dallas Cowboy fans.

The children of Eagles fans have an ingrown hatred for all things Dallas because they hear mom and dad says about them.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
I'm fully embracing my Jewish heritage. I took to wearing a yarmulke at Mass.

I see what you're doing there.....