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COB (pronounced Cobb), we don’t have time for sea stories……. | |||
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If they found a debris field then the end was insanely fast, brutally violent, but insanely fast. They likely had no idea what happened. 50+ Year old white guy who clearly told them there were issues and left the project. A few minutes of his opinions. Apparently right after I posted this they have disabled the video for use on other sites: https://youtu.be/_j6tO0kWTBk Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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USCG just confirmed the worst. Debris field found about a third of a mile from the bow of Titanic. Distribution pattern consistent with a mid-descent implosion. | |||
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How many times did they go down to the Titanic in this thing? How many times was it stressed to pressures at 4,000 meters of water? I'm no submarine guy, but it seems to me repeated stresses of that magnitude would gradually weaken the vessel to the point of this tragic accident happening. One might think the sub shrank a little on every voyage to the Titanic. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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from video above, a CG expert said the debris field is consistent w implosion shortly after the last communication from Titan | |||
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A lot of 50-year-old white guys standing on that deck. | |||
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They said in the press conference that they found the two titanium endcaps. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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Finding both "end bells" in the debris field means they were recognizable. I take that to mean that something catastrophic happened to either the carbon fiber cylindrical pressure hull or the joint between cf hull and the titanium "end bells." Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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This is a great example of what happens to people who think they know more than the experts, and feel they can use short cuts to save money. Based on what I've heard on videos from a few involved that sub never should have left shore much less the deck of that ship. All of those testing procedures, processes, design criteria, and redundancies built into modern submarines are there as a result of failures, many catastrophic. The Sub Safe program wasn't developed so the US Government could spend more money. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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To use British slang, it was "bell ends" that designed this thing. _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | |||
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DrDan would be better at explaining this than I am, but from work I did with him on engineered carbon composite structures, my understanding is that when a carbon fiber laminate fails, the failure is almost instantaneous. Unlike ductile metals, CF structures don't bend, deform and then fail. Rather, a crack initiates at either a weak point, or the point of greatest strain, and then that crack propagates through the structure at extraordinary speed leading to complete and total failure of the part. When hydraulically testing composite strips, the lab is evacuated so people don't get hit with the bits after failure. My guess is that the crew did not have any warning that this was coming, and that it came so fast, they would have had no ability to process the event. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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How many US tax dollars were wasted on this? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |||
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I guess that carbon fiber was bast the number of cycles it could withstand.  He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. | |||
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It's sad that these people lost their lives, but I wish the media would stop calling this an "expedition," rather than what it was, which is a joyride and an ill-conceived one at that. The Titanic was discovered decades ago and the trip they were taking was for the purpose of gawking, not conducting any kind of scientific research. They were not explorers, no matter how much they spent on the trip. | |||
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One hundred and eleven years after it sank, The Titanic is still killing people. Time to let it rest in peace. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Well the SOSUS network (but not from Bermuda or Keflavik) now knows the sound of a small sub imploding. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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That's one of the shortcomings traveling to these depths and beyond, material fatigue and degradation is a very real issue. Inspections have to be constant and the logging of all the components involved and their exposure, must be relentless. Plenty of accidents were a result of a bolt/seal/screw failing. | |||
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That much pressure, that quick, detonated the occupants in the fuel/air mixture like a diesel engine. There will be no bodies to recover. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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...And James Cameron weighs in on the tragedy, and most critically. At the end of the interview he hints that Titan is believed to have first dropped its ballast weights, meaning the crew had some prior indication of the imminent danger. | |||
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