No ambient light at that depth, but they could likely lower some flood lights via cable that survive that depth. Or maybe the subs carry lights.

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Interesting article.

https://newrepublic.com/post/1...ely-travel-oceangate

On it's face: That seems pretty damning.

There's more.

The Manned Underwater Vehicles committee of the Marine Technology Society sent a letter to the CEO that the company's experimental approach could lead to catastrophic problems. Also the company decided against getting their sub classed, an industry-wide practice requiring independent inspectors to certify the craft meets industry technical standards.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...ckton-Rush-2018.html

I just don't understand this fascination with the Titanic and it's wreckage. It is kind of like hovering in a helicopter just above an old mass gravesite of some people you did not know. Not something I would want to do with my time. Sure in the heck would not pay to see it. Sometimes a guy should let sleeping dogs lie as these people may find out.

Growing up had a neighbor that worked in Pearl Harbor right after 12/7/41 on a salvage crew. Let's just say he did not paint a good picture about the experience.

I truly hope the crew is safely rescued although that seems pretty unlikely at this point. When I was in the Navy, except for what I learned was normal hull creaking when we dove, I never really worried about being swallowed by the ocean. It was a passing thought and I guess in the back of my mind but I had the utmost faith in my boat and my crew. Everyone onboard a Navy sub has to go through sub quals on their boat and we all knew our shit. I remember being more concerned with the world nuking itself and not being able to surface because of it.
This trip to the Titanic is nothing more than rich man's fodder and I hope that if they don't come home safe that they imploded. It's a much better alternative to running out of air.

I start this video where it is discussed how the sub is glued together during construction. Also at the 5 minute mark, the CEO talks about his philosophy in hiring submarine operators.

Yeah, you know, those old white guys actually know a thing or two. Probably not a bad idea to hire one or two instead of the hot surfer chick just graduating college.

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Yeah, you know, those old white guys actually know a thing or two. Probably not a bad idea to hire one or two instead of the hot surfer chick just graduating college.

Someone that looks like Captain Ramius would inspire way more confidence than his drivers.

You don't hire them because they are inspirational, you hire them because they are less likely to call you on your nonsense. Every single bit of additional information makes this guy Stockton sound more and more incompetent. Somebody points out your sub ain't safe, fire him. I bet that guy was inspirational right up until he pointed out the emperor had no clothes.

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I bet that guy was inspirational right up until he pointed out the emperor had no clothes.

They were naked in the sub? That would be awkward

About the support vessel from 2005:

For sale: icebreaker, fully loaded, very little rust

Looking for a bargain on eBay? The former Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Sir Humphrey Gilbert now in private hands and docked at Clarenville, Nfld. is for sale through the online auction site.

As of Friday afternoon, no would-be buyer had posted even the minimum starting bid of $1 million US, let alone the undisclosed reserve price. That is the price below which the seller, Dan Burry, won't part with the 73-metre-long ship.

Now called Polar Prince, the icebreaker has four eight-cylinder diesel engines, three cranes, accommodation for 52 people and a helicopter landing pad.

It was built for the government in 1959 at Lauzon, Que. It has been owned since 2002 by Burry's company, Star Line Inc. of Clarenville.

The ship is listed on eBay as a "medium Class 100A" Arctic icebreaker in "excellent condition." Burry says it could be used for research or as a floating hotel, and would be perfect for touring icy Arctic destinations.

"Buyer responsible for vehicle pick-up or shipping," the listing specifies.

Burry doesn't think an icebreaker is a strange thing to sell on the internet. "You can buy things on there you'd never expect," he said.

So far, he said, he's had one inquiry from Asia.

Pretty sure they’re fooked.

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Pretty sure they’re fooked.

Agreed

At that depth what condition would the bodies be in? Bits of DNA?

Would there be big enough pieces of the sub to recover?

I think if they were alive, they'd by banging on the walls, sending an sos call.
Surely there's a listening device that could pick it up.

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I start this video ....

Definitely worth a watch for anyone interested about the craft.

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Pretty sure they’re fooked.

Agreed

At that depth what condition would the bodies be in? Bits of DNA?

Would there be big enough pieces of the sub to recover?

I watched a documentary years ago about the K-129 pieces recovered with the Glomar Explorer. There was even a video of the CIA or whoever doing as official of a Russian funeral service as they could pull off with the remains. The remains were described as, and I'm paraphrasing because it's been a while, a flattened pasty spots in the wreckage only recognizable as human remains because they knew they were looking for human remains in a vessel that had imploded at depth.

OK guys

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...on_and_Roger_Chapman

The deepest successful sub rescue was 1575 feet in 1973. That was a while ago, still doubt we have 11,000 feet of improvements.

I’m rooting for them, even if he didn’t want the ‘old white guys’ raining on his parade.

Most of the odds I see from those seemingly in the know are very low. A few saying it’s already over.

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I think if they were alive, they'd by banging on the walls, sending an sos call.
Surely there's a listening device that could pick it up.

Well, sounds like maybe they are. Hopefully if it is them, they can locate and recover them before they run out of air.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...al-Comms-Reveal.html

This video answers my earlier questions about regulatory authority. He talks about the regulations at the beginning of the video and then deep dives at about 8:50.

I have a question about that 96 hours of oxygen.

Is that normal breathing? I used to dive and an hour long tank wouldn't last an hour if you panic breath. You can burn through it pretty quickly I suspect that there is true panic in the vessel.

There are breathing techniques you can use to extend your air supply but it's not something I expect these people to have trained for.

If the vessel didn't implode and they are in total cold darkness, I suspect that panic set in and they started quick breathing. That 40 hrs of air the USCG talked about earlier may be much shorter than that.