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One thing I haven’t seen anyone discuss here is the fact that, even if they were to somehow grapple them and drag them to the surface with enough air left, what about the bends?


Wouldn’t they need to be brought to the surface slowly?

The insides is at the same pressure as the sea-surface, thus no need to go through a deco stop.
 
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250k to for a ride to the bottom.
How much for a round trip ticket?


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No, it's an off the shelf XBox controller. The Captain of the USS Indiana explains this in the tour of his Virginia class SSN:


Mind you, the XBox controller is only controlling what passes for the periscope, not navigational control of the sub.


My step son tells me the controller is indeed "off the shelf" though tested by the Navy (to unknown requirements) before use. And, obviously, not used to control the sub itself. His group develops the training programs for this device as well as many other aspects of operating subs and he says the new generation grew up using these things and so it is much easier for them than traditional controls.
 
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250k to for a ride to the bottom.
How much for a round trip ticket?
I don’t think they’ll like the price they are about to pay.



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250k to for a ride to the bottom.
How much for a round trip ticket?

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Jared Fogle is no longer the worst thing to happen to subs.


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How's that workin' out for him?

Even if he's not sued into oblivion (and I hope he is) just who do you think will pay to take a trip in his next ramshackle sub?

I would think he's done and it seems like justice to me.
Would you settle for swimming in the abyss? He’s one of the five people on board.
 
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Nowhere have I seen addressed the dissimilar compression characteristics of dissimilar materials, carbon fiber tube, titanium end caps, god know what else. This is a major factor when operating at depth and would be my first stab at a point of failure for this design.

The one video I saw led me to believe the end caps are essentially edge glued to the carbon fiber tube. I’m guessing they weren’t using JB Weld, but I’ve never heard of a glue that was as strong as the material being glued.

In another video, the tube is being spun slowly while carbon fiber is being applied essentially in concentric, parallel circles to form the tube. This means the carbon fiber isn’t holding the tube together lengthwise, only the resin is doing that. Another thing that strikes my is that the tube is 5” thick of carbon fiber. How do you know it’s all good?

Why a cylinder? All the other super deep diving vessels seem to be based on spheres. A probably gets more people in for a given volume, but it doesn’t resist pressure the way a sphere would. Seems to me the tube should be thicker in the middle than the ends.
 
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He’s one of the five people on board.
Well, that's one way to avoid being served.
 
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This is surely going to become a number of psycho-horror movie plots. Especially if they take extreme measures to “save oxygen”.

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Jared Fogle is no longer the worst thing to happen to subs.
Hahaha.
 
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According to Titanic expedition search live updates: Missing OceanGate Titan submersible rescue:
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- The oxygen supply on board the Titan submersible is estimated to run out at 7:08 a.m. ET
That was an hour-and-a-half ago Frown And
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- US Coast Guard confirms that "banging" noise heard on Wednesday identified did not come from the Titan
I wonder if they'll ever even find it?



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As any of us who have spent time in/on the ocean can tell you...

it's very unlikely the noise would be coming from the sub, a former Royal Navy officer said

"Banging" noises heard in the search for the missing submersible raised hopes of a rescue.

But it's very unlikely the noise would be coming from the sub, a former Royal Navy officer said.

Trying to pinpoint the noise to the sub is a "fool's errand," Rear Admiral Chris Parry told Talk TV.

"Underwater noises" detected in effort to find the submersible lost near the wreck of the Titanic raised hopes that the crew might still be alive.

But one expert said tracing the noises back to the sub is a "fool's errand."

"Trying to differentiate it from tapping noises as it were, I'm afraid is a fool's errand," Former Rear Admiral Chris Parry, a retired officer in Britain's Royal Navy, told Talk TV.

"I'm afraid people are grasping at straws here and I'm really concerned that we don't divert attention away from trying to find the submersible where it really is," Parry said in his interview.

A rescue operation is underway to recover the Titan, a submersible carrying five people that lost communication with its mother ship on Sunday as it set off for the wreckage of the Titanic 12,500 feet underwater.

The vessel carried enough oxygen to last until Thursday, officials coordinating the rescue efforts said.

The US Coast Guard tweeted that it had picked up "underwater noises" in the Titan's search area.

This came after Rolling Stone reported on Tuesday that searchers on a Canadian aircraft detected "banging" in 30-minute intervals coming from the area where the submersible went missing, according to a leaked Department of Homeland Security email.

A 'dull thud' rather than a bang
Parry said the sounds likely would not have come from the sub.

"You get a lot of mechanical noise in the ocean," he said.

"Titanic herself is making a lot of noise under the water because she's made of metal," he said.

The hull of the submersible is said to be made of carbon fiber, which Parry said would more likely make an undetectable "dull thud" than a tapping noise.

Stefan B. Williams, a professor of marine robotics at the University of Sydney whose lab works with uncrewed submersibles, told Insider it was possible the noise could have come from the crew, but that it would be difficult to confirm that without further analysis.

"There have been reports when there have been issues with submarines where the sailors will bang on the hull and that acoustic noise will travel," he said.

"Still, you can't rule out that that's coming from a ship or some other source," said Williams.

Oceanographer David Gallo, senior adviser for strategic initiatives for RMS Titanic Inc. told "CNN This Morning," the situation reminded him of the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that disappeared from radar in 2014.

"When I first heard about the banging, I said: 'Oh no, here we go again.' In [the search for] Malaysia Airlines we heard banging quite often, and it always turned out to be something different," he said.




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If the "sub" were going to be tapping ANYTHING, I would think they would have been doing THIS repeatedly for as long as possible:

. . . - - - . . .
. . . - - - . . .

Rinse and repeat until unable to do so. JMHO...



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He’s one of the five people on board.
Well, that's one way to avoid being served.


Morgan & Morgan would find a way if it means getting paid.


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Yeah, the whales are screwing with us.
 
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They can be dicks those whales can.
 
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Snopes (remember them?) tried to smear Elon Musk with some BS about Starlink being responsible for this homemade submarine disaster but the internet and particularly the new Twitter Community Notes was having none of that, LOL:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s...667873964601345?s=20



Snopes Self-Immolates Taking A Shot At Musk


 
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Jared Fogle is no longer the worst thing to happen to subs.


I laughed waaaaay too hard at this.

Stolen. Big Grin


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Jared Fogle is no longer the worst thing to happen to subs.
I laughed waaaaay too hard at this.
Ditto... Razz Big Grin



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