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With McLaren going to MBZ power for 2021, and how much they've improved since moving on from Honda, I think Ric made the right move.

Now the wait to see what happens with the open Renault seat & potentially any shakeup in the grid, if someone wants to try to entice Vettel to stay.




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With McLaren going to MBZ power for 2021, and how much they've improved since moving on from Honda, I think Ric made the right move.

Now the wait to see what happens with the open Renault seat & potentially any shakeup in the grid, if someone wants to try to entice Vettel to stay.


If you watch Alonso's and Renault's twitter, something seems to be afoot. Renault tweets a picture of Alonso winning for Renault, and less than 1 minute later Alonso tweets a similar picture back. Methinks Alonso if going to Renault to pair up with Ocon.
 
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If Alonso comes back, I may be out. He’s undeniably a great driver, but so tired of his “all about me” s#@t show. Not really a Ron Dennis or Hamilton fan, but never forgive Alonso for getting off scot free after ratting out McLaren because he didn’t like that Hamilton was better. Alonso knew what was going on the whole time and benefited from it.

Renault isn’t going anywhere for a while, and soon Alonso will turn against them too when they no longer suit his needs. Doubt Renault is going to give Alonso time off to go Indycar racing like McLaren did.
 
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I would like to see Alonso get one more shot with a capable team and he and Ocon could be a really good pairing.
The problem seems to be Renault itself. They haven't shown the dedication to winning in the recent past. Back when the team was branded as Lotus, when Kimi drove there, they seemed to have more fighting spirit and punched above their weight, like Force India (whatever they call it now) has done recently. Once they were taken back by Renault they seem to have become burdened by the inflexible corporate crap and incapable of reacting when and where needed. The worst part is they seem to find that acceptable.
Hard to say if the reduced budgets next year will bring things down to their level but just a lack of will to spend the money, get the right people and make the right moves seems to be too much of a pattern to change.


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If Alonso comes back, I may be out.

Understandable - you can’t both drive for them.



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If Alonso comes back, I may be out.

Understandable - you can’t both drive for them.


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I'm not sure I see Alonso coming back to Renault. I imagine if he came back, it would only be with a team at the top. He's not going to want to come back into a mid-field team.




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Take it with a grain of salt, but I had read this from a debrief from Will Buxton following Abu Dhabi last year: Vettel was told he was no longer the leader of the team following 2019.

The link to the story below essentially says the team lost patients with Vettel last year with his many mistakes, and following the spin in Italy, chose LeClerc as the defacto team leader, and never had intentions of having Vettel return. The story says Sainz was contracted over the winter break, and no contract was ever offered to Vettel.

Obviously very vague, but I doubt Vettel was left with options, and Vettel has certainly not endeared himself with others as being a good team player. I was surprised Brown went to him, but in a separate article I read yesterday, it said Zac went to Daniel first and he said yes, so conflicting stories indeed.

https://www.essentiallysports....ack-in-2019-reports/
 
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https://www.formula1.com/en/la...s3WOQf7gdSuqJRf.html

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Williams say they are considering selling a minority or majority stake in the iconic British Formula 1 team as they pursue a “new strategic direction” to ensure they are “well positioned to take advantage of Formula 1’s new era which will begin in 2021”.

Williams have finished 10th in the constructors’ championship for two successive seasons, which in turn has had a negative impact on the commercial revenues they receive from Formula 1. There has also been a decline in sponsorship while the coronoavirus pandemic has forced a delay to the start of the 2020 season, which in turn has increased the financial pressure on the business.

“As part of this new strategic direction, the WGPH [Williams Grand Prix Holdings] board is undertaking a review of all the various strategic options available to the Company,” said Williams in a statement.

“Options being considered include, but are not limited to, raising new capital for the business, a divestment of a minority stake in WGPH, or a divestment of a majority stake in WGPH including a potential sale of the whole Company.

“Whilst no decisions have been made regarding the optimal outcome yet, to facilitate discussions with interested parties, the Company announces the commencement of a ‘formal sale process’.”

Williams say they have appointed joint financial advisers to assist with the strategic review and be a point of contact for interested parties.

They added: “The Company is not in receipt of any approaches at the time of this announcement and confirms that it is in preliminary discussions with a small number of parties regarding a potential investment in the Company.

“There can be no certainty that an offer will be made, nor as to the terms on which any offer will be made. The WGPH board reserves the right to alter or terminate the process at any time and if it does so it will make an announcement as appropriate. The WGPH board also reserves the right to reject any approach or terminate discussions with any interested party at any time.

“While the Company has faced a number of challenges, Williams currently remains funded and ready to resume racing when the calendar allows in 2020. The WGPH board believes that the strategic review and formal sale process is the right and prudent thing to do in order to take time to consider a full range of options and put the Formula 1 team in the best possible position for the future.”

The news came on the day Williams announced their financial results for the year ending 2019, reporting a loss of £13m, down from a profit of £16m in the previous year. Group revenue declined to £160.2m in 2019, from £176.5m in 2018.

Regarding the Formula 1 team, revenues declined to £95.4m from £130.7m in 2018. They had losses of £10.1m compared to a profit of £16m in 2018.

Within the announcement, Williams also revealed they have chosen to end their relationship with title sponsor Rokit and their major sponsor Rok Drinks.

“The financial results for 2019 reflect the recent decline in competitiveness of the F1 operation and the consequent reduction in commercial rights income” said Chief Executive Officer Mike O’Driscoll.

“After four years of very solid performance in the FIA F1 Constructors’ Championship during which we claimed two third and two fifth place finishes, we endured a couple of very difficult seasons. We have implemented a significant restructuring over the last nine months and have strengthened the technical leadership team.

“The 2020 Formula 1 season has, of course, been disrupted due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and this will have an impact on our commercial rights income this year. The Team have also served notice to terminate its relationship with its title partner, ROKiT, and major sponsor, ROK Drinks.

"In common with many other businesses, we have taken extensive action to mitigate, including a prolonged furlough period for much of our staff. As this awful global crisis recedes, everyone at Williams Racing is looking forward to the start of the new season.”




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It is really sad to see how Williams has declined.
 
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I called it last year that this would be Williams last year if they finish 10th. They have been running a deficit for three years.
 
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Frank's declining health/advancing age & Claire taking the helm seemed to be the tipping point. Bottas/Massa was delivering results, then they started getting out developed by the rest of the field.




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Claire is sounding like the captain of the Titanic.
She should have taken some money from Stroll a few years ago, gracefully bowed out, and let him take over.
Sad to see a once great team in this situation. This seasons challenges have caused the train wreck to speed up but it was already headed in that direction.


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Pretty all encompassing list of the Williams F1 shortcomings and outright errors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZROo3oc-T4

This is 2 months old, a bit longer, and a seven part 48 minute video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Otp4zwabVQ
 
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It's official!

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...nFFhNxQ8O2WdCON.html


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Formula 1 today confirmed the 2020 season will begin in Austria next month – and revealed details on the first eight races of a new calendar.

After racing was put on hold because of the coronavirus outbreak, F1, the teams and the FIA have been working to put together a plan to allow the season to begin safely, and today F1 chief executive Chase Carey outlined the first part of a revised calendar of races.

The season will kick off with the Austrian Grand Prix at the Red Bull Ring on July 5, followed a week later by a second race at the same track.

The Hungarian Grand Prix will follow a week after that, before a break. Then there will be two back to back races at Silverstone, followed by the Spanish Grand Prix at Barcelona.

The Belgian Grand Prix will follow that, with the Italian Grand Prix at Monza a week later on September 6.

All the races will be supported by Formula 2 and Formula 3.

Due to the ongoing fluidity of the COVID-19 situation internationally, F1 will be finalising the details of the wider calendar and hope to publish that in the coming weeks with an expectation of having a total of 15-18 races before completing the season in December.

F1 currently expect the opening races to be closed events but hope fans will be able to attend again when it is safe to do so.

The health and safety of all involved will continue to be priority number one, with Formula 1 and the FIA having a robust and detailed plan to ensure the races maintain the highest level of safety with strict procedures in place.

Chase Carey, Chairman and CEO of Formula 1, said: “In the past weeks we have been working tirelessly with all our partners, the FIA and the teams to create a revised opening 2020 calendar allowing us to restart racing in the safest possible way.

"We are pleased to be able to set out our opening eight race calendar today and look forward to publishing our full calendar in the coming weeks.

"I want to thank every promoter and partner for their support and ongoing commitment to Formula 1.

"While we currently expect the season to commence without fans at our races we hope that over the coming months the situation will allow us to welcome them back once it is safe to do, but we know the return of Formula 1 will be a welcome boost to sports fans around the world.”





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Bring it on!



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Interesting that they're doing 2 'double-header' races in Austria & Silverstone.

Should dramatically reduce transport costs.

Hopefully we'll see some flyaway schedule soon.




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Interesting that Pirelli and Rolex are each sponsoring two races. Also that the second race at Silverstone will be the Emirates GP




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Interesting that they're doing 2 'double-header' races in Austria & Silverstone.

Should dramatically reduce transport costs.

Hopefully we'll see some flyaway schedule soon.


I think double headers at the same track are worthless. Barring someone who had a problem, there is no reason that the results are going to be different the second time around. This is mainly so Max and Lewis get the chance for home race glory twice instead of just once.
 
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Interesting that they're doing 2 'double-header' races in Austria & Silverstone.

Should dramatically reduce transport costs.

Hopefully we'll see some flyaway schedule soon.


I think double headers at the same track are worthless. Barring someone who had a problem, there is no reason that the results are going to be different the second time around. This is mainly so Max and Lewis get the chance for home race glory twice instead of just once.


I suppose, it also gives teams a 2nd shot at dialing in a setup a bit further.
But, odds are, as you say, barring a crash/mechanical issue, results are unlikely to be too different between the 2 races.

I'm sure the primary reasoning for it is to keep costs down for the teams/F1/Pirelli.
If they open up to spectators, gives a chance to do 2 reduced capacity races & maybe get relatively close to standard capacity between them.




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