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Not a snoozer, but nothing too exciting.
Norris on phenomenal form

First ever no SC Singapore GP. Maylander getting a nice break Big Grin




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The post-quali presser was gold. Lando could have pulled an abdominal muscle.

Has the FIA published a list of naughty words, or are they going to wait for George Carlin to get that to them from the grave?

It's supposed to be the most sophisticated sport in the world. If you are worried about sweary words and the audience, which I can understand from a business/media perspective, then put the broadcast on a 10-30 second delay and a guy on the beep button like virtually every network has to do. Or do away with in-car audio if you want to screw it up more, but that would be a shame.

Realize their new rules are in and out of the car, but they can solve all of this if they really wanted to. Yes, MV looked like a petulant child, but he, Lewis and others can likely keep doing that until..... forever.



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Lawson replaces Ricciardo at RB for the rest of 2024
Chris Medland September 26, 2024 12:05 PM ET

RB has confirmed Liam Lawson will race for the team for the remainder of the 2024 Formula 1 season in place of Daniel Ricciardo.

Ricciardo’s future was the center of speculation at the Singapore Grand Prix and the Australian ended the weekend admitting there was a chance he had raced for the final time Formula 1. A Red Bull review of its driver line-up has now resulted in Lawson (pictured at right, above, with Ricciardo) being promoted back into a race seat starting with the next race — the United States Grand Prix at Circuit of The Americas.

Lawson impressed team management during his five-race stint in place of the injured Ricciardo last year. He finished ninth in Singapore last season to score two points while standing in for Ricciardo, but the Australian returned at COTA to see out the year. He started this season trying to earn himself another chance at Red Bull Racing, but despite considering a change, the senior team opted to stick with Sergio Perez in the summer break.

Ricciardo’s 2024 has seen him score a best result of eighth place in the Canadian Grand Prix, although he finished an impressive fourth in the Sprint in Miami as one of four point-scoring finishes. He has been outscored by 22 points to 12 by teammate Yuki Tsunoda, who is already confirmed at RB for next season.

“Everyone here at VCARB would like to thank Daniel for his hard work across the last two seasons with us,” RB team principal Laurent Mekies said. “He has brought a lot of experience and talent to the team with a fantastic attitude, which has helped everyone to develop and foster a tight team spirit. Daniel has been a true gentleman both on and off the track and never without that smile. He will be missed, but will always hold a special place within the Red Bull family.

“I’d also like to take this opportunity to welcome Liam. He already knows the team well. He drove for us last season, and coped well under difficult circumstances, so it’ll be a natural transition. It’s great to see young talent from within the Red Bull family make the next step. We’re looking forward to getting our heads down and focusing on the rest of the season together.”

At this stage, RB has only confirmed Lawson for the remainder of this season, with the seat alongside Tsunoda in 2025 not yet officially announced. Despite the show of faith in August, questions remain over Perez’s long-term future at Red Bull, after a run of 41 points in the past 12 races. While the Red Bull has become a less competitive car, teammate Max Verstappen has scored 195 points in the same spell.


My theory is that Lawson is auditioning for Sergio Perez's spot at Red Bull next year. If he hits it out of the park, then Lawson gets a Red Bull seat for 2025 and Issac Hadjar goes from winning F2 to a VCARB seat. If he bombs, then Lawson gets punted and Hadjar still replaces him since Hadjar can't go back to F2 after winning the championship. Where my theory falls apart is if Lawson is mid and only does an OK job.

Also came up with a theory on Danny Ric and that he simply can't drive the ground effect cars as well as everyone else. He was over performing at Renault, and he kept up with Lando Norris at McLaren until the move to ground effects. He could never adapt to be as fast as everyone else even when his car wasn't jackhammering the track.

Either way, the sport has moved on. I think he deserved to see out the rest of the year, but there was little chance of coming back in 2025. About the only future plans he's mentioned is that he wants to a race around Bathurst and he'd like to do the Daytona 500, but nothing full time. I wish him the best.
 
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Pure speculation is Checo leaves after Mexico City, Ric finishes the year at the senior RB team, for a proper sendoff some think he deserves.




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Something else that just happened in Miami thinks it can actually be a REAL race track...

https://racer.com/2024/09/26/m...or-year-round-usage/



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Miami Grand Prix adds four new circuit configurations for year-round usage
Chris Medland September 26, 2024 10:08 AM ET

The Miami International Autodrome has added four new circuit configurations that will allow the track to be used year-round without the need for road closures.

The home of the Miami Grand Prix has been on the Formula 1 calendar for the past three years, but has only hosted the F1 race and associated support events during one weekend per year due to the impact on the parking lots at Hard Rock Stadium and the requirement to close roads that the grand prix circuit crosses.

Inner loops that have been made possible via hairpins and a new section before the original Turn 11 and after Turn 16 that links up with the rest of the track. The four new layouts range from a 19-turn 2.8-mile configuration to a 1.43-mile short loop that features 13 corners and will allow the track to host competitive race events at other times of the year as well as private track events.

Miami Grand Prix managing partner Tom Garfinkel says the development means the circuit can both host corporate events as well as focus on community-based days.

“This is an exciting time to be a motorsports enthusiast here in South Florida,” Garfinkel said. “Our investment into the facility and construction of the inner loop creates five track configurations worthy of the world’s most elite drivers and allows us to engage with the growing motorsports community of South Florida while also respecting the impact to local residents and businesses.

“There’s a thriving car culture here in South Florida and this investment enables us to better serve this growing group of automotive enthusiasts, as well as utilizing our campus for more community programming, including education and career opportunities for local youth and students.”

The largest new configuration is known as the Extended Marina Loop, and will host the Ferrari Racing Days from May 14-18 in 2025, two weeks after the next edition of the Miami Grand Prix. The F1 race will continue to use the full grand prix layout.
 
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Look, I like DR as much as everyone else and wish it would have continued to work out better for him. He's been a favorite of ours since the start.

I do not understand all the gnashing of teeth about doing him wrong, mistreating him, disrespecting his service to the team, etc. Not necessarily here but in the bleeding heart pot-stirring media in general.

It's a tough sport but it's one that demands and relies on peal performance of everyone on the team. You drop off, you're gonna be looking through the fence from the outside. They can't afford to let someone coast just because he's a nice guy.



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It'll be sad to see Smiley Avocado leave the grid, he seems a genuinely likeable guy.

A last shot with RBR, replacing Perez, could give him a shot at seeing if he still really has it & the RB is holding him back, and give RBR a chance to have a shot at the WCC, if both drivers can put up good double points finishes.




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I do not understand all the gnashing of teeth about doing him wrong, mistreating him, disrespecting his service to the team, etc. Not necessarily here but in the bleeding heart pot-stirring media in general.


He has done enough to be told ahead of time that he was going to be cut instead of showing up to Singapore and finding out he's fired. This should have been announced ahead of time instead of a hush hush on Sunday and then broadcasting it several days later.

TL;DR: There was a better way to do this and Red Bull couldn't be bothered. Plus, they still employ the more worthless Sergio Perez on the main team.
 
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We have no idea what the internal communication between Christian/RB and Ricciardo was. And that's ok unless you're a British pundit.



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So that's why Ricciardo said he'll find out about his future heading into Singapour on Thursday and looked like someone executed his dog on Saturday?
 
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Look, I'm not trying to make this a battle, but is there an actual quote where he said that?

I think it's more likely he already knew precisely where this was headed and had for some time. He agreed to keep it under wraps until the team could announce. Many of us have done the same when leaving a position by our choice or otherwise, and it's the right thing to do. So for a solid person like Daniel what you'd expect. And most of our employers have nowhere near the visibility of an F1 team.

Any deferrals were in the vein of we'll see where things go, we'll see what the future holds, or simply dodging the direct questions from media. I don't recall him saying directly before or after "I have no idea, the team has told me nothing, and I expect to be driving here in 2025 or rest of this year."

Yeah he was sad, it's the objective of his entire life and career to this point and he's leaving it behind.

Or, I could be completely wrong! Smile



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Pure speculation is Checo leaves after Mexico City, Ric finishes the year at the senior RB team, for a proper sendoff some think he deserves.


While maybe he didn’t deserve to get dumped mid-season, getting promoted to the senior team for the last few races doesn’t seem right. There is no proof he would be better than Perez, and likely he’ll be even worse. The WCC is already lost. Danny Ric isn’t going to save it. As far as a proper send off, he had his second chance at racing after getting dumped by McLaren.
 
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I don't like Red Bull overall as a team. I do like DR over MV as people, but I will say that MV has been very good with his public comments, including an immediate, sincere sounding "thank you" on the fastest lap radio message. I most of all can't stand MV's father. I think there are good people and good elements trying to do the right thing throughout this whole episode.

Had DR been able to show up in the first of the season then I think he well could have taken Perez's spot. He had his shot, and that is very fair. Unfortunately, he was trying to overcome his learned habits in a car that was becoming more and more exposed. The above comments about the nature of the cars not suiting his driving is certainly a thought. Given how well McLaren is doing now and that he didn't thrive as it was getting worked through there last year is its own thing as well.

He's had a great career. I look forward to his auto-biography sometime in the future. Would be interesting to see him in other types of racing, but I hope he moves on to some other form of success.




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Look, I'm not trying to make this a battle, but is there an actual quote where he said that?


I almost gave up, but I found it:

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...vBylYRcjq87rx1OAPYO2

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This has also seen rumours emerge that Ricciardo could potentially be replaced at the team before the end of 2024, but the 35-year-old told media ahead of the Singapore Grand Prix that he will not be able to give an update on his future until after the weekend.

“I think that’s when decisions will be made and for us that know the contract, that’s where the dates fall,” he explained. “After the weekend we’ll know more.”


At this point, it sounds like he doesn't know. If Red Bull knew at this time, just let the cat out of the bag and let us fans celebrate instead of dreading that something has already happened after the race. That's almost an IndyCar level PR blunder except the writing was on the wall for the end of the year.
 
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Got it.
All around it’s a tough way to go, and for a much-loved figure like him even harder.

The ambassador role offered is unclear, but I guess is a nice parting gesture? I don’t expect him to take that, I think he wants to drive even if it’s in WEC or another series.



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From several interviews it sounds like he's not wanting anything full time right now. He still says IndyCar is still too scary. He's mentioned he'd like to do the Daytona 500 or some NASCAR road courses and a trip to Bathurst in either a Supercar or one of the endurance races.

The ambassador role could also be either replacing David Coulthard for events or join in on promotional duties. Either way, I except him to relax for the rest of the year.
 
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Andretti is no longer the owner of Andretti Global, and has entered a partnership with Zak Brown - Acquisition Corp II
 
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Yep. I put that in the IndyCar thread. There's a lot of fascinating stuff, but nothing about the F1 project.
 
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Anyone going to the USGP this year?
Fairly good chance I'll be there for Friday, working on tickets via a vendor at work.




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Nope. Stuck at work all weekend.
 
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