Watching Discovery I noticed a promo for something called Legends of F1, available on Discovery +, a streaming service. No idea what that show is.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
Watching Discovery I noticed a promo for something called Legends of F1, available on Discovery +, a streaming service. No idea what that show is.

I think it's an older Sky TV series with past era F1 drivers.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3975842/

Saw it first reported on 4/1, so was leery of it, but read more on it today.

Apparently, for Vegas '23, they're in talks to start the race at 10PM on Saturday, instead of racing on Sunday.

Because it's a night race, having a Sunday start, late enough for a night race, would be an early Monday morning view-time for European markets.

I get the intent, but don't know of any time the race was held on a Saturday. I know they've had Sunday quali before.

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
No tears shed for Max “Nazi Hooker” Mosley. He was heavily involved with socialist shift in F1 during the 2000s.

It was proven in court beyond doubt that they weren’t Nazi hookers. Besides, you act like the FIA wasn’t a trash fire before Mosley took over.

As far as the Saturday Night Las Vegas race, I’m putting a link to the track map instead of posting a 2000x1125 image on the forum.

https://www.motorsportmagazine...las-vegas-gp-circuit

Unlike Miami, the track looks great with a chance of great racing. It also avoids parking lots thankfully.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Saw it first reported on 4/1, so was leery of it, but read more on it today.

Apparently, for Vegas '23, they're in talks to start the race at 10PM on Saturday, instead of racing on Sunday.

Because it's a night race, having a Sunday start, late enough for a night race, would be an early Monday morning view-time for European markets.

I get the intent, but don't know of any time the race was held on a Saturday. I know they've had Sunday quali before.

The Europeans just need to suck it up. People in the US have to make do with races starting in the early morning hours all of the time. This weekend, qualy is 2am and the race is 1am my time. With races all over the world in different zones, stuff happens.

I'm also curious how you secure that track facility/area in Vegas. Enclosed bridges over the strip? Complete lockdown, which I'm sure would lead to casino complaints.

No balconies, so no chance of Monaco-like experience from your hotel.

Track layout looks ok, and I'm sure it'll be a spectacle under the Vegas lights, just curious about normal Vegas crowd control.

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Originally posted by Dwill104:

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Saw it first reported on 4/1, so was leery of it, but read more on it today.

Apparently, for Vegas '23, they're in talks to start the race at 10PM on Saturday, instead of racing on Sunday.

Because it's a night race, having a Sunday start, late enough for a night race, would be an early Monday morning view-time for European markets.

I get the intent, but don't know of any time the race was held on a Saturday. I know they've had Sunday quali before.

The Europeans just need to suck it up. People in the US have to make do with races starting in the early morning hours all of the time. This weekend, qualy is 2am and the race is 1am my time. With races all over the world in different zones, stuff happens.

The difference here, as I'm getting it, is that for us it's 2AM on Sunday.
Where a Vegas night race would be in the wee hours on Monday for Europe, and early Monday morning in Asia.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
I'm also curious how you secure that track facility/area in Vegas. Enclosed bridges over the strip? Complete lockdown, which I'm sure would lead to casino complaints.

Already lots of enclosed pedestrian overpasses up and down the strip.

I've always wanted to see an F1 race. Wasn't before and not now keen on traveling to Europe. And Austin didn't seem to be my cup of tea. But Las Vegas.........

COTA is a fun track, and there's a lot of vantage points where you can see a lot of the track, but it's very congested (traffic & crowds).

From the main lot to the main gate is about a mile.
From the gate to T9 is about another mile, through all rhe fan zone & concessions areas.

We walked a bit over 20 miles in each of the 2 F1 race weekends we've attended there.

I bought tickets to Austin… reserved bleacher seats at turn 9. My buddy Ramez and I will be there for the Quals and race.

Never been to an F1 race. I imagine that it will be something like a tennis or golf event… with a retail village and food outlets scattered around the venue.

What can I expect? Any advice for a newbie?

Living in Orlando, I would love to go see Miami. Tickets appear to be sold out.

Heck, I do not even care to see the race. I just want to see Friday practice and Saturday qualifying and then watch the race on TV from the comfort of my couch.

Good to have these new races but a shame they can't have one on a classic track instead of city streets or the artificial Tilke style.
During my time I've beet to Watkins Glen, Long Beach (F1) and Indy.
Watkins Glen was a much better experience, in spite of the often bad weather. You could walk around and see from many different points during the weekend. We even got to walk through the garages and talk to the crews and sometimes the drivers.
Some great times.

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Originally posted by mttaylor1066:
I bought tickets to Austin… reserved bleacher seats at turn 9. My buddy Ramez and I will be there for the Quals and race.

Never been to an F1 race. I imagine that it will be something like a tennis or golf event… with a retail village and food outlets scattered around the venue.

What can I expect? Any advice for a newbie?

We went twice (2017 & 2018)

We sat at T9 the first year, great spot. We sat at T3/4 the 2nd year, fun to watch them snake through the esses.
The way those cars change direction doesn't really translate on TV like it does in person, the quick R/L transition at T8/9 is pretty incredible.
From T9, you can also see the end of the back straight, T12, and the occasional runoff if someone goes in too deep.

If you're driving in each day, get there super early, or be prepared for lots of traffic & a long walk. The main lot (Lot F, IIRC) is around a mile from the main ticket gate, then the line to get in. Then it's about a mile (across the 2 bridges over the track, which get very congested). I think we walked a bit over 20 miles, over 3 days, both years we went.
You also have to traverse the fanzone & concessions/merch areas around the amphitheater at T15, which is where a ton of people congregate.

There's concessions scattered around the track, so you don't have to wander back to the main fanzone area, but there is more in that area.
The 2 years we went, you could bring in your own water & they had refill stations around the track. I'd also advise to get some stadium seats, as the bleachers are pretty uncomfortable after a while, and they do not have backrests.

Being at T9, if you're planning on attending the concerts after track action ceases, you're close to the infield access, as it was at the T9 corner gate when we were there.

If you want to participate in the track 'invasion' post race, get down there early & be ready to sprint if you want to be in decent view of the podium.
Also, take the walk from the start/finish up to T1, it's a much steeper climb than it looks on TV.

I was hoping to attend this year, but tickets went so quickly.
Still cautiously optimistic that I can score some vendor tickets via Dell/McLaren (my work buys a ton through them) or Ceva/Ferrari (daughter's friend's dad works for Ceva & is an F1 fan).

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Good to have these new races but a shame they can't have one on a classic track instead of city streets or the artificial Tilke style.
During my time I've beet to Watkins Glen, Long Beach (F1) and Indy.
Watkins Glen was a much better experience, in spite of the often bad weather. You could walk around and see from many different points during the weekend. We even got to walk through the garages and talk to the crews and sometimes the drivers.
Some great times.

I read an article yesterday about "why you don't want F1 to return to Watkins Glen"

In short, they'd have to completely change so much that makes the track great, in order to handle the circus as it exists now.
There isn't enough nearby accommodation to support the F1 crowd (teams & fans), plus the not ideal proximity to a major airport.

Thanks,P250!

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
I'm also curious how you secure that track facility/area in Vegas. Enclosed bridges over the strip? Complete lockdown, which I'm sure would lead to casino complaints.

No balconies, so no chance of Monaco-like experience from your hotel.

Track layout looks ok, and I'm sure it'll be a spectacle under the Vegas lights, just curious about normal Vegas crowd control.

The casinos are in on it. They’re sponsoring and one leaked the release early. They’ll probably sell every last room for the long weekend. I would go but it’s going to be a massive shit show.

We've been to no other US F1 races but we went to every Indy F1. I can't imagine anywhere else could host a race more accessible and reasonable than there. I surely hope F1 can find it's way back there some day.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
We've been to no other US F1 races but we went to every Indy F1. I can't imagine anywhere else could host a race more accessible and reasonable than there. I surely hope F1 can find it's way back there some day.

I thought there was an ongoing feud that won’t allow it

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I've not heard that. I can't believe IMS owner Roger Penske wouldn't want the race back there.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
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I've not heard that. I can't believe IMS owner Roger Penske wouldn't want the race back there.

Is IMS grade 1 currently?
Definitely could be a contender if so. Already set up for the crowds & housing requirements.