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Can I assume a HANS device protects in side impacts about as much as it does for head on impacts? Or is that primarily handled by the body work on either side of the helmet? I'm hard pressed to remember a side impact as hard as what Mick endured today.


Pretty much. It’s designed to keep excess whiplash under control so the driver doesn’t suffer a skull fracture while they’re being thrown side to side. Jack Harvey was ruled out of the Indy race at Texas Motor Speedway when he received an 88 G impact during practice, and his crash didn’t look as extreme as Schumacher.

The race was also fantastic. Several fights up and down the grid, you had drivers struggling for grip with worn out tires that didn’t explode unlike the shit Goodyear produces, Hamilton’s very best could only get him to 10th after 6 cars either couldn’t start, overheated, or crashed.

My only complaint was what’s the point of the “Virtual Safety Car?” You either need to slow the field down or you don’t. I know there’s a big gap with Americans throwing Safety Cars out if a booger hits the track and the Europeans risking the death of a driver and/or safety workers for the “dignity of the race.” It must be hard to find someone in Europe with a working pair of balls (internal or external).

Having both Red Bulls die in Bahrain wasn’t a good start, but they’re third in the Constructors with 37 vs Mercedes’ 38. Also another great week for Ferrari at 78 points. They could take Australia off and still be comfortably in the lead. Haas is doing great. At 10 points they’re 20 away from tying their results for the last 3 years combined.

Now let’s see how the upgrades (team and track) work at Albert Park in two weeks.
 
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Yup; fantastic racing!





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Albon just nailed a 3 spot grid drop for Australia after crashing into Lance Stroll.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/...roll-tangle/9377586/

Seems Williams still finds way to suck under new ownership. It’ll also be interesting to see if George Russel can stay ahead of Lewis this year. He’s currently has the points lead and had very few problems whereas Lewis is complaining that he needs more grip and more power to fight for the lead.
 
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Nice to see Ferrari on the podium again. It was a very good race - up there with the best that last year produced. Lots of fights for position.
 
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Felt bad for Perez. He did everything right and just bad luck that safety car came out when it did.
Great racing for a number of positions but the lead duel at the end was outstanding.
Glad there were no serious incidents, on or off the track.
More mechanical failures than they've had for years.
Lewis tenth and it wasn't a fluke, that's just where he ended up on speed.


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Yeah the timing on the safety car just crushed him. Nothing he could do.
 
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Can I assume a HANS device protects in side impacts about as much as it does for head on impacts? Or is that primarily handled by the body work on either side of the helmet? I'm hard pressed to remember a side impact as hard as what Mick endured today.


The HANS is mostly for straight ahead or slightly to the side. The side cockpit bolsters limit side head movement and absorb most of the side G's.
The Hans is held in place by the shoulder straps and two straps attach at the rear of the helmet base about 6" apart. A sliding tether allows the driver to turn their head to the side in normal movement. Tether length is a key element.
The HANS was designed mostly to protect against a basilar skull fracture holding the head in relation to the neck vertebrae. The injury occurs when the head goes too far forward and the attachments (bone) at the base of the skull break loose.
The HANS certainly helped in parts of that accident but the side bolsters were what mostly protected him against extreme G's to the head in this case.
The drivers radio ear plugs have a sensor built into them to measure the actual forces to the head, as differentiated from the vehicles impact G's.


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Leclerc needs to be more pushy this season to defend Max as he is super aggressive.
30 seconds off pace again for MB is no good. Only hope is that a long season and they can make it up. Too bad Checo did not win today, he will get his chance. Hope to see Schumacher back next race.
I get the new regulations but other cars are way too far back. Hope they get better as the season progresses especially McLaren. Fingers crossed for Lando.
 
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Leclerc needs to be more pushy this season to defend Max as he is super aggressive.

Not really a lot he could do as both RB cars had a huge top speed advantage.

What allowed Leclerc to keep Max at bay was that the Ferrari was better in the corners...as long as their tires were warm enough. The last VSC was a killer as it allowed the Ferrari tires to cool and they lost their advantage to hold off the RB after the last pass




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Well said.
 
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Good hard racing all over. The midfield had some good scraps going until the DNFs started.

The double lockup by the leaders at the DRS line gave me a laugh. Definitely unexpected from F1.




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So far a great start to the season with Max and Charles going at it. Extremely excited to see when Ferrari finally upgrades their car in Australia (I think I read) what that does for their performance. I also read Ferrari have yet to use the full potential of the engine. They also ran more df than the others at these first two races. I hope the Redbull/Ferrari fight continues BUT, would prefer a Ferrari comes out on top. Also fantastic to see Haas with K-Mag and Mick running well. So far a great start. Haven't been this excited for F1 in a long time.
 
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It appears to me that the cars can truly get up much closer to a car in front of them with no problems to their car. That makes for good racing.
 
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In a case of sad news, Max Mosley, the former head of the FIA, killed himself this week after being diagnosed with terminal cancer. Some will feel certain ways about his controversial tenure, but something that can't be argued is his relentless pursuit of safety in FIA sanctioned events.

As an interesting aside, he was one of the few dignitaries that went to Roland Ratzenberger's funeral after the awful weekend at Imola in 1994 that saw Rubens Barrichello seriously injured and saw the death of Ratzenberger and Aryton Senna. When he was asked why he came, he said "Everyone went to Senna's funeral, but no one came to Roland's."

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Former F1 boss Max Mosley shot himself after terminal cancer diagnosis

The coroner said she was "satisfied" Max Mosley had intended to kill himself due to his terminal cancer diagnosis


Former F1 boss Max Mosley shot himself after learning his cancer was terminal, a coroner has concluded.

Mr Mosley died in his London home in May 2021. The 81-year-old had been in debilitating pain.

Westminster Coroner's Court heard that he shared his plans, had a final meal with his wife and wrote a suicide note.

Senior Coroner Dr Fiona Wilcox recorded a conclusion of suicide, saying she was "satisfied" Mr Mosley intended to kill himself.

Mr Mosley developed diffuse large B-cell lymphoma, a cancer affecting immune cells, in 2019, the court heard on Tuesday.

Having exhausted all the treatment options, doctors had told him he likely had a "very limited life expectancy" and he had been moved to palliative care.

Mr Mosley contacted his personal assistant the night before he was found dead to tell him about his decision to kill himself.

He could not be persuaded and had formed a "settled intent", the court heard, and a suicide note was found the following day.

Dr Wilcox recorded a cause of death as a gunshot wound, adding that the cancer was a contributing factor to the death of "a remarkable man".

She said: "I am also entirely satisfied Mr Mosley would not have undertaken this action but for the distressing and debilitating terminal lymphoma."

The inquest also heard from Mr Mosley's relatives that he felt his biggest achievement as president of the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) - the governing body for F1 racing and non-profit representing motoring interests worldwide - was "the promotion of road safety" and "green technology in F1".

Mr Mosley led motorsport's governing body the FIA from 1993 to 2009 and, in his role as FIA president, initiated widespread reforms of safety procedures in Formula 1 following the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994.

On learning of his death, ex-Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone said it was "like losing a brother".

At the time, Mr Ecclestone said: "He did, a lot of good things not just for motorsport, also the [car] industry. He was very good in making sure people built cars that were safe."

Mr Mosley - the son of 1930s British fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley - also campaigned for tighter press regulation after winning £60,000 damages from the News of the World when it wrongly published a story alleging he had attended a Nazi-themed orgy.
 
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They just announced the coroners findings. Not that there was any real mystery.
He did the deed a year ago.


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Las Vegas Night Race - 2023

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The world-famous neon lights of Las Vegas will provide the backdrop to Formula 1’s newest race when the American city hosts a night event from 2023.

The Las Vegas Grand Prix will take place on a Saturday next November and be one of three races in the United States, joining Miami and Austin.

Las Vegas hosted races in 1981 and 1982 but this will be the first time F1 cars will race on the iconic Las Vegas Strip, with the circuit sweeping past famous hotels and casinos.

The 14-turn track will run for 3.8 miles (6.12km) with top speeds expected to hit around 212mph (342km/h).

The design features three straights, a high-speed cornering sequence and a single chicane section, with the Grand Prix to be run over 50 laps.

F1 and Liberty Media will work together to promote the race in partnership with Live Nation Entertainment and the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA), as well as Founding Partners Caesars Entertainment, MGM Resorts International, and Wynn Las Vegas and Presenting Partners MSG Sphere, Resorts World Las Vegas and The Venetian Resort.

The news was announced at a glittering event in Las Vegas on Wednesday evening, with Liberty Media President and CEO Greg Maffei and F1 President and CEO Stefano Domenicali in attendance.

They were joined by local stakeholders including Nevada Governor, Steve Sisolak, CEO and President of the LVCVA, Steve Hill and President and CEO of Live Nation Entertainment, Michael Rapino.

“Iconic Las Vegas and Formula 1, the pinnacle of motorsport, is the perfect marriage of speed and glamour,” said Maffei. “Our confidence in this unique opportunity is evident in our decision to assume the promoter role for the Las Vegas Grand Prix in partnership with Live Nation.

“We could not be more excited to work with our local partners to create a marquee event. The potential of Formula 1 has been well demonstrated over the last several seasons and the Las Vegas GP will only take it to the next level.”

Domenicali added: “This is an incredible moment for Formula 1 that demonstrates the huge appeal and growth of our sport with a third race in the US. Las Vegas is a destination known around the world for its excitement, hospitality, thrills, and of course, the famous Strip.

“There is no better place for Formula 1 to race than in the global entertainment capital of the world and we cannot wait to be here next year. I want to thank everyone who helped deliver this event, especially Governor Sisolak, the Clark County Commission, Steve Hill at the LVCVA, and our local partners.”

Hill added: “We eagerly anticipate the moment when the history, energy and momentum of Formula 1 will culminate in an unforgettable Saturday night on the Las Vegas Strip. Spectators will experience the unrivalled thrill of watching these world-class drivers race through what is sure to become one of the most iconic racetracks in the world.

“Formula 1 and Liberty Media have been incredible partners, and we look forward to November 2023 when we once again showcase that Las Vegas is ‘The Greatest Arena on Earth’.”






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Hmm, my mom lives about 40 min north of Vegas & my stepdad has some connections in town. Might need to start making plans now. The High Roller would make for some interesting viewing, though the Vegas lights may obscure really being able to see the cars.

No real balconies on the hotels either, so that rules out a Monaco-like approach.




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No tears shed for Max “Nazi Hooker” Mosley. He was heavily involved with socialist shift in F1 during the 2000s.
 
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I heard there was a F1 docuseries. Is it pretty true to the sport or is it more for entertainment?
 
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I heard there was a F1 docuseries. Is it pretty true to the sport or is it more for entertainment?


Netflix - Drive to Survive?
A bit of manufactured drama by context, or lack thereof, but the first couple seasons were good. I haven't watched the most recent yet. I know some of the drivers weren't happy with how some of it was portrayed.




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