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Originally posted by parabellum:
President Trump is not naive. There is a balance which needs to be struck. He has demonstrated a true desire to bring the Iranians around.


Very similar to this take. Spot on.

https://x.com/DKH013/status/20...istration-day-508%2F




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Posts: 19668 | Location: Texas | Registered: May 13, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It would be helpful if the people of Iran could raise up against those in power, but we know what the last street slaughter was like for them. It's like the lady above postulates..you cannot reason with the unreasonable.
 
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When I started this thread in January, it was originally about civil unrest in Iran, but now we see, half a year on, that these protests/riots have proved ineffective, even after the IRGC has had its shit stomped by the United States.

As I said, the current Iranian regime is like cockroaches, able to survive the harshest conditions.

So, what good would it be to bomb them further right now, if a diplomatic solution is still within our grasp? And I'll say it again- President Trump is not naive. He knows the Iranian regime has never in half a century adhered to any agreement long term. But, if certain concessions will be made now by the Iranians, something good may yet come out of extracting promises from this most deceitful of all the world's governments, while at the same time bolstering the US economy in the face of the midterms, now only a little more than four months away.
 
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Deal or no deal, today is another day Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, there no American boots on the ground in Iran, no American service members and their families have made the sacrifice. Winning.
 
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The Prime Minister of Pakistan:

https://x.com/CMShehbaz/status/2065467425408405712

"Amid ongoing intense mediation efforts by Pakistan, we are fully aware of incessant misinformation campaign being waged by those who want to sabotage the peace deal. Setting aside the noise, we can confirm that a final, agreed upon text of the peace deal has been reached and Pakistan is now working closely with both sides to finalize the next steps. Peace has never been this close as it is now."

 
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Deal or no deal, today is another day Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, there no American boots on the ground in Iran, no American service members and their families have made the sacrifice. Winning.

Although there have been "no boots on the ground", please don't forget these thirteen who have made the ultimate sacrifice.



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https://x.com/JDVance/status/2065449280773541949

"I'm seeing a lot of fake information about a potential deal to reopen the Strait and end Iran's nuclear weapons program. First, the Iranians are not receiving any cash, and no funds are being released for simply signing a deal or attending a meeting. The deal is structured to ensure that the US and its allies concerns are prioritized, and that if the Islamic Republic of Iran meets its obligations, then economic benefits will flow to them and to the entire region. This deal has the potential to remake the region and lead to lasting peace.

I've noticed a couple of bizarre things in the reporting over the last few hours. First, people who (rightly) said Donald Trump was a historic president a month ago now criticizing a deal based on unconfirmed media reports. Second, people who say you can't trust a word said by the IRGC who apparently believe anonymously sourced social media posts.

The president is going to get us a good outcome, one way or the other."


 
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Although there have been "no boots on the ground", please don't forget these thirteen who have made the ultimate sacrifice.


I literally meant today and each day going forward. It breaks my heart to think of the families that have made that sacrifice. I’m strongly encouraging my sons to sign up and hope they do.

My brother, dad, and uncle served. I had a great uncle that spent 45 years in an asylum after serving in WWI. I did not serve, neither have my 15 and 19 year old sons as of yet, so I’ll defer to and trust the President to make those calls. In the meantime, I’ll ignore all the bullshit on the internet and media except for being thankful each day Iran does not have the bomb and those serving have survived another day.
 
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The Art of the Deal

“Donald Trump has agreed to let Iran retain its civilian nuclear program in a major concession as the two sides say they are closer than ever to reaching a peace deal.

A senior White House official said: 'We're not bothered at all by the idea of civilian power plants in Iran; what we're bothered by is the type of infrastructure that would allow them to jump from civilian power generation to nuclear weapons development.'

The official pointed to how the United Arab Emirates has a civilian nuclear power program that could not be turned into a bomb-making operation.

The revelation indicates that the Trump administration has given Iran the green light to hold onto its civilian nuclear power plants as long as those sites cannot be used to create a nuclear weapon. …”

https://mol.im/a/15895963



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^^^^ Of course, leave it to the DM to twist it into “a major concession” by Trump. Roll Eyes


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Anything done with Trump involved is always going to have some form of disingenuous negativity attached by the LSM, it's the name of the game.

You wonder why people even tune into them knowing the bias, other than apparently a large enough pct of clickers, readers, subscribers buy into that source as valid..
 
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Meaning what?
 
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I'd pay good money to see PDJT post a video on Truth, paraphrasing Bill Cosby: he announces that the beatings will now begin... by saying, "I HAVE HAD... ENOUGH OF... THIS!"


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Take it for whatever it's worth to you:

https://x.com/JesseBWatters/st.../2065592050922184795

 
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Sounds like a good deal. Hope it all proves true.




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Posts: 42080 | Location: SC Lowcountry/Cape Cod | Registered: November 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This would seem to indicate that Iran has indeed agreed to a peace deal, the announcement of the state funeral for Khomeini:

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The funeral for Iran's late Supreme Leader Ali ‌Khamenei, who was killed in a strike on Feb. 28 at the beginning of Operation Epic Fury, will unfold in early July, according to Reuters. 

The news agency, citing Iranian state media reports Saturday, said the funeral will begin in Tehran on July 4 and finish with Khamenei’s burial in Mashhad on July 9


FOX News, I’m trying to get a link…


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^^^^^^ A-10s flying over the procession (as a symbol of respect, of course) might be a good idea in case things don’t go as planned.
 
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^^^^^^ A-10s flying over the procession (as a symbol of respect, of course) might be a good idea in case things don’t go as planned.


B52s carpet bombing. Now that is a procession!
 
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Let the skepticism flow like a mighty river! Razz

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2065840514369544493

“Hopefully, this process will all work out quickly, easily, and smoothly. If it doesn't, we have the ultimate alternative, hopefully never to be used again!”

 
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^^^^^^^^^This from the greatest negotiator in the history of mankind.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
 
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