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Yes I know, didn't intend to communicate the entire population was like that, my mistake. I'm overdue to learn about that history. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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I guess nuking Mecca and Medina followed by complete occupation on the ground is right out. Worked 80 years ago. Bet Lindsay would back that kind of action. | |||
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I detect a bit of sarcasm... 
Yeah, he would. We weren't designed to be an empire... but we kind of picked up where the Brits left off, unfortunately. But I think Donald Trump's instinct is to pull back to focus on the American hemisphere. Hopefully, we can accomplish our limited goals of 1. NO NUKES and 2. Open shipping through the international waters of the Strait of Hormuz and both gulfs. And then get out of there. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...SzX8GOeoUjTEfOecs%3D Iran Halts Talks With US Over Israeli Escalation in Lebanon Tehran is suspending indirect negotiations with Washington and is threatening to expand military pressure across key regional shipping routes: Iran state media. Iran has halted indirect negotiations with the United States over what it describes as Israel’s escalating military campaign in Lebanon, according to a report by Iran’s semi-official Tasnim News Agency, raising fresh doubts about efforts to transform a fragile ceasefire into a broader agreement that would end the war. Tasnim reported on June 1 that Iran’s negotiating team will stop talks—including the exchange of messages through a mediator—because Israel had continued military operations in Lebanon despite what Tehran considers a ceasefire that applies across all fronts. The report said Iran considers a pause in Israeli military operations in Lebanon as a precondition of the ceasefire and that Israel’s actions amounted to a violation of the truce. Iranian officials and negotiators are calling for an immediate cessation of Israeli military operations in both Gaza and Lebanon, along with the need for a complete withdrawal from occupied areas in Lebanon, Tasnim reported. Besides halting talks, Iran is also threatening to completely close the Strait of Hormuz and expand the conflict to other regions, including the Bab el-Mandab Strait in the Red Sea, in response to Israeli actions. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday ordered the military to strike Hezbollah targets in Beirut, escalating Israel’s campaign against the Iran-backed terrorist group. Netanyahu cited “repeated and ongoing” ceasefire violations by Hezbollah against Israeli cities and civilians. Iranian officials denounced the Israeli military’s moves and hinted at retaliation. The speaker of Iran’s parliament, Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf, said that escalation of Israeli military operations in Lebanon, along with the ongoing U.S. naval blockade of Iranian ports, is “clear evidence” that the United States has broken the terms of the ceasefire. “Every choice has a price, and the bill comes due,” Ghalibaf said in a June 1 post on X. “It will all fall into place.” The Epoch Times has reached out to the White House with a request for comment. This is a developing story. Check back for updates. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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Yes, of course. Because the world has started bypassing the Strait of Hormuz!  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I think it’s time for a little “FO” to go with Iran’s “FA”. I admire the patience that President Trump has shown over the last 2 months, but I think if he doesn’t make some sort of impact statement (impact action more accurately) it does start to make our resolve seem questionable. I think it’s time for a little reminder that we’re the ones with the power. Perhaps at the first sign of interference with another strait we hit something other than the strait to show that such behavior will simply not be tolerated. Perhaps it’s time to enforce a complete isolation of Iran, as I do believe that the naval blockade of the strait of Hormuz has been the most effective strategy thus far. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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The ports at Chabahar and Bandar Abbas seem like good targets... This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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