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What will China do when 13% of it's oil needs are no longer met?


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What will China do when 13% of it's oil needs are no longer met?


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What will China do when 13% of it's oil needs are no longer met?


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We missed an opportunity to drop a few MOABs to end all this crap.
 
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We missed an opportunity to drop a few MOABs to end all this crap.


That’s what I’ve been saying, let’s make a bunch of them and just make it rain in an epic show of force.
 
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...WblB8cYOpXabToP6w%3D

US Forces Launch New Strikes on Iran Following Attack on Ship in Strait of Hormuz

Iran’s military claimed to attack a commercial ship that was using an unauthorized route through the Strait of Hormuz.

U.S. forces began carrying out new strikes on Iran on July 11, in response to an Iranian attack on a commercial vessel in the Strait of Hormuz.

The U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) said the strikes began around 7:15 p.m. ET, and were made in response to an Iranian attack on the Cyprus-flagged container ship M/V GFS Galaxy. CENTCOM said one of the vessel’s civilian crew members is missing following the Iranian attack, and the ship is unable to continue its journey due to an onboard fire and damage to its engine room.

“In response, the United States is imposing a heavy cost by continuing to degrade Iran’s ability to attack civilian mariners and commercial ships freely transiting the strait. The strikes are being carried out at the direction of the Commander in Chief,” CENTCOM said.

Shortly before the U.S. military announced the strikes, Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) claimed responsibility for firing upon a vessel that it said was attempting to transit the Strait of Hormuz through a route not approved by Iran. The IRGC said its forces also began enforcing a closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which sits on a key route for the oceangoing export of oil and other commodities.

U.S. forces struck Iran earlier this week in response to attacks on vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. Iranian forces have, in turn, fired on U.S. outposts across the Middle East.
In a memorandum of understanding reached with the United States on June 17, Tehran agreed to facilitate the safe and toll-free passage of vessels sailing through the Strait of Hormuz for a period of 60 days. Iranian authorities further committed to consult with Oman, which sits on the opposite side of the strait, and with other neighboring nations, to manage the long-term administration of the waterway.

Amid the clashes this week, President Donald Trump declared that the agreement and a ceasefire between the United States and Iran were over. Still, he said negotiations would continue, in line with a request from Iranian authorities.
“Iran was provided yet another opportunity to demonstrate adherence to the Memorandum of Understanding after being held accountable for earlier attacks on commercial vessels but has again failed,” CENTCOM said of the latest strikes.

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said the Iranian side made “a poor choice.”

“Now they pay,” he added, in a social media post.

This is a developing story and will be updated with additional details.




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“Donald Trump has reinstated his naval blockade of Iran, barring ships from entering or leaving their ports, days after Tehran attacked another commercial vessel and declared the Strait of Hormuz closed.

The President also claimed the US would be paid a 20 percent tariff for securing safe passage for commercial vessels through the Persian Gulf. The details of Trump's demand were not immediately clear.

Trump wrote on Truth Social that the US 'will be, from this point forward, known as "The Guardian of the Hormuz Strait."' 

'The process and formation will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter!' He wrote. …”

https://mol.im/a/15973663



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Video at link. Big Bada BOOM !!!

https://www.militarytimes.com/...t-first-for-us-navy/

Sea drones strike Iranian port in combat first for US

U.S. Central Command utilized three Corsair unmanned surface vessels to strike a submarine and ship maintenance facility at the Bandar Abbas naval base in Iran, marking the “first time American forces have employed sea drones in combat operations,” CENTCOM confirmed on X on Monday.


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Here is Deutsche Bank equity research analyst Chris Robertson's summary of developments last week and through the weekend:

Last week, Iran declared that the Strait of Hormuz is closed until further notice. Iran attacked a commercial container ship attempting to transit the region, causing a fire aboard the vessel.

The Joint Maritime Information Center (JIMC) said on Sunday that the southern Omani route remains available, but that the threat level is rated as "severe".

Regardless of any claims around the Strait being closed or open, what matters is that commercial ship owners are likely not willing to risk transit in an active war zone, putting ships and crews at risk of attack.

We reiterate our initial concerns that despite major destruction of traditional Iranian naval vessels and assets, the ongoing threat that shipowners face is asymmetric warfare technologies such as drones and missiles. These types of threats are much harder to predict or plan for, thereby maximizing uncertainty related to mitigating voyage risks.

We expect transit activity will slow, especially as it relates to vessels planning to enter the Gulf through the Strait which, unlike exiting activity, is the real sign that conditions are normalizing. We believe that an ongoing closure of the Strait of Hormuz will lead to downward pressure on shortterm tanker rates as ships remain in other regions, thereby increasing effective supply of those ships.

Diplomacy Unravels

As of Monday morning, it is clear that US-Iran diplomacy is unraveling, while US forces are systematically degrading the IRGC's ability to close the maritime chokepoint. Commercial ships continue to transit the waterway, undermining Tehran's claim that the critical waterway is effectively shut.

Tehran must also recognize the longer-term strategic risk: every disruption accelerates global investment in pipelines, export terminals, and other infrastructure designed to bypass Hormuz. Once those alternatives are operational, Tehran's greatest source of geopolitical leverage will evaporate. Then what?

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But now...

Trump: US to Take Over Strait & Get Paid For It

President Trump in surprising commentary issued to "Fox & Friends" has said the United States will probably take over the Strait of Hormuz and should be reimbursed for controlling it. His words have raised eyebrows given Washington's stance has been that no one can collect tolls for transit through the vital international waterway. He said once the US gains control of it, following a weekend bombing campaign on Iranian coastal sites, "we'll probably run it" and "we should be reimbursed for that."

"We’re going to keep the strait, and we’ll probably run it. We’ll become the guardian of the strait. Maybe we’ll call it the guardian angel of the strait. And we should be reimbursed for that," he says in the Fox phone interview.

Again, US officials have throughout Operation Epic Fury voiced that it is an illegal outrage for Iran to suggest it would charge fees, but now...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...-continue-transiting



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Not sure what is more surprising - the surface drone strike or the fact that Iran had a functional submarine?
 
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Well, it’s now submerged, so yes, a functional submarine. Smile



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A submarine maintenance facility, not a submarine.
 
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A submarine maintenance facility, not a submarine.

Ding! But leave it to these yahoos on twitter to milk the official CENTCOM announcement into something more. Roll Eyes


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Not sure what is more surprising - the surface drone strike or the fact that Iran had a functional submarine?

They had a couple of Kilo-class boats that I believe are all now permanent features beneath the waves, along with 10-20 indigenous mini-type subs, mainly coastal patrol types in varying states of repair and build, which I think this target was one of those.
 
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A submarine maintenance facility, not a submarine.


Watch the video closer, once it turns to the camera on the drone boat as it approaches the dry dock around the 12 second mark there appears to be a submarine up on the dock under some kind of repair/maintenance.

Here is a screen grab of that moment...

 
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A submarine maintenance facility, not a submarine.


Watch the video closer, once it turns to the camera on the drone boat as it approaches the dry dock around the 12 second mark there appears to be a submarine up on the dock under some kind of repair/maintenance.


Good eye! I see it up on the dock.
 
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Maybe the sub was on lease from NOK..... Big Grin
 
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Maybe the sub was on lease from NOK..... Big Grin
They're going to need a metric shit ton of magnets to repossess that sub



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