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The 20% toll is now gone, per Trump.

https://www.wsj.com/world/midd...oll-6d40a276?mod=mhp
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Told cops where to go for over 29 years…
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E-3B Sentry, P-8A Poseidon, and multiple KC-136/KC-46 tankers flying around tonight…






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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Iran Warns US Of 'Infrastructure For Infrastructure' War, Will Control Hormuz As 'Unbreakable Red Line'

Since the prior day's handover of American detainee Dena Karari back to the US, which President Trump said he "appreciated" as a rare "gesture of goodwill" from Iran, Washington's bombs over the Islamic Republic appear to have ceased or slowed, for now at least.

But that doesn't mean Iran's retaliatory missiles and drones on America's Gulf allies have halted. On Thursday, Kuwait has announced its air defenses continue to be active, confronting inbound assaults by "hostile drones".
Screengrab of IRGC video from Sepah News website on July 14, 2026, showing a missile being launched towards US targets in Bahrain & Kuwait.

"The General Staff of the Army notes that any explosion sounds heard are the result of air defense systems intercepting the hostile attacks," the Kuwaiti military said in a statement, blasting "the sinful Iranian aggression." It added: "Everyone is requested to adhere to the security and safety instructions issued by the competent authorities."

After five consecutive days of US attack waves, the Iranian military has yet to show signs of backing off its assertions of 'control' over the Strait of Hormuz, and its military has newly warned that the energy transit waterway is an "unbreakable red line" which it will enforce.

On Wednesday President Trump warned that if Iran doesn't come back to the negotiating table - while relinquishing control of Hormuz - that by next week strikes will expand to include civic and energy infrastructure, such as bridges.

Tehran has in turn counter-threatened to destroy "all infrastructure throughout the region" if Trump acts on this threat to attack Iran's vital infrastructure cites.

New: “Infrastructure for Infrastructure” - Iran’s Khatam Al-Anbiya Joint HQ Colonel Ibrahim Zolfaghari:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...muz-unbreakable-read



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Iran Warns US Of 'Infrastructure For Infrastructure' War, Will Control Hormuz As 'Unbreakable Red Line'

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We should be blowing them up until they are speechless!
Lets get this over with!
 
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WSJ Opinion July 12, 2026 editorial

The U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding and its cease-fire were effectively dead-on-arrival. Donald Trump and his top advisers now acknowledge their demise, but the agreement was never viable, ironically, because the U.S.-Israel military effort was so successful. Tehran doesn’t have a government in any coherent sense.

Despite the fact it is written by Bolton, I think it is correct. If the Guard does not support the political negotiations, they are doomed to fail!

Trump has made every single effort to negotiate peace… he is likely getting weary… we will hear from him tonight.


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All WSJ Opinion?

Or some WSJ Opinion and some tleddy opinion?



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I have confidence that however and when this gets resolved we will be way better off as a nation and world Thanks to our President. I am fine being patient to get this worked out. If it takes three weeks or 18 months. I really don't care. As long as the resolution is to our long term satisfaction. And no this is not about gas price, for me anyways. Carry on.



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US Strikes for the 5th night. targets Infrastucture .


https://ground.news/article/us...th-consecutive-night


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Drop bridges and strike power plants.


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Trump has made every single effort to negotiate peace… he is likely getting weary… we will hear from him tonight.


WSJ first two paragraphs - my opinion above...

I shoud have put the WSJ in Quotation marks - mea culpa.


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US Sends Dozens More Refueling Planes To Israel Amid Widening Iran War, Oil Climbs

Summary

Surge in more large US refueling planes headed to Mideast, signaling likely expansion of strikes on Iran.
US attacks hit Iranian energy and transport infrastructure.
Iran threatens stronger retaliation and claims strike on US base in Qatar - and deepens attacks to include US outposts in Jordan, Syria.
Iran urges power conservation; Hormuz shipping traffic declines further.
Oil prices rise to session highs on fears of broader regional conflict.

Trump Sends Dozens More Refueling Planes in Sign Of Widening War

Oil prices are climbing on fresh reports Friday that President Trump is ready to continue escalating and expanding strikes on the Islamic Republic, after a Situation Room briefing this week where the Commander-in-Chief was presented with various options. It bears repeating that the White House in the opening days of Operation Epic Fury promised the American public a fast and hasty, limited military engagement - but this is where we are four months later...

"The Trump administration notified Israel it is sending dozens more refueling planes to the country ahead of a potential expansion of military operations against Iran, three U.S. and Israeli officials said," reports Axios. "After he was presented with several new military plans in a Situation Room meeting Tuesday, President Trump is considering a massive offensive in Iran that would be wider in scope than the current strikes around the Strait of Hormuz." This is but the latest signal that the ceasefire and negotiations are fully dead, and the potential for runaway escalation is bigger than ever:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...tructure-irgc-claims

The US faces the same dilemma In Iran as Russia faces in Ukraine. They have the power to kill every person in that country but exercise restraint.

The only solutions for a win in Iran is an internal battle within the IRGC with the moderates taking control or a bloody hand to hand civil war between the Persians and the Islamists. Bombing the shit out of the country doesn't solve this.

Theocracy is a lot like communism - "You can Vote your way in, but you'll have to shoot your way out".



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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We’re bombing a countries roads and bridges so they will need to fix those rather than be like us bombing other countries roads and bridges while our own fall apart.


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After hearing how decimated Iran's forces are over and over again, WTF?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wor...&bt_ts=1784397910957

US military says 2 troops are dead and 1 is missing after Iran attacks a base in Jordan

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. military on Saturday announced its first troop deaths due to direct Iranian fire since the opening days of the war, saying two were killed and another was missing in an attack on a base in Jordan.

They were killed Friday as the U.S. and partner forces defended against ballistic missile and drone attacks, a statement said. Four other service members were medically evacuated to Jordanian hospitals and later discharged. The dead were not identified.

Since the war began, 16 U.S. service members have been killed and over 430 wounded.

Minutes earlier, Iran's supreme leader warned of "unforgettable lessons" if the U.S. keeps attacking the Islamic Republic. The remarks read out on state TV and attributed to Mojtaba Khamenei, still unseen since the war began, also called President Donald Trump's signature "worthless and invalid."

The comments came hours after a negotiator said Tehran was suspending its commitments to the interim deal signed about a month ago and aimed at permanently ending the fighting.

Tehran's declarations snapped another fragile thread as the war shows no end in sight. Now Khamenei warns of "lessons" not only from Iran but its armed proxies in the region, calling them the "Axis of Resistance."

The battle over the Strait of Hormuz has intensified in a conflict increasingly focused on control of the essential waterway that previously carried a fifth of the world's crude oil. The strikes threaten civilians and infrastructure, including desalination plants for drinking water, while the global economy again is on alert.

The U.S. has violated its commitments under the deal that was signed about a month ago and now Iran is "no longer implementing them," Kazem Gharibabadi, Iran's deputy foreign minister, told state TV.

There was no new word on mediation efforts.

Kuwait sees the most striking damage

The most significant damage from Iranian strikes on Saturday occurred in Kuwait, where a water desalination plant and an oil facility were hit, according to the Kuwait authorities and the Kuwait Petroleum Corporation. Both declined to provide locations.

The strikes injured several people at the oil facility and caused a fire at the desalination plant, forcing several power generation units offline. It was the second attack against a desalination plant in two days in the tiny desert nation that depends on desalination for 90% of its drinking water.

Several firefighters and a worker were injured while battling two other blazes sparked by Iranian strikes, according to the Kuwait Fire Force. Kuwait briefly closed its airspace due to missile threats, and Kuwait Airways said it was rescheduling most flights to and from the capital.

Meanwhile, Iraq said it shot down attack drones over the city of Irbil. Jordan's state-run Petra news agency said the kingdom's air defense systems had downed Iranian missiles, while air sirens sounded multiple times in Bahrain throughout the day and in Saudi Arabia in the morning, according to their governments.

The secretary general of the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council, Jasem Mohamed al-Budaiwi, accused Iran of war crimes for strikes on infrastructure and civilian facilities.

US strikes hit infrastructure in Iran

The U.S. Central Command said early Saturday that its seventh straight night of strikes hit "surveillance sites, military logistics infrastructure, underground weapons storage, and maritime capabilities."

U.S. airstrikes hit an electricity and desalination plant in Iran's southern Hormozgan province, Iranian state TV reported. IRNA said the Bonji desalination plant was destroyed, cutting off water supplies to about 10,000 people, and that a desalination plant on strategic Qeshm Island inside the strait was damaged.

Overnight strikes damaged two tunnels and a bridge, disrupting one of the main highways toward Bandar Abbas, Iran's main port that sits near the narrowest part of the strait, according to Iran's state-run news agency. IRNA said three bridges were hit Saturday, including one on a route to Bandar Abbas.

Iran acknowledged "attacks on power infrastructure" during the U.S. airstrikes for the first time Friday when its Energy Ministry issued a call for people to use less power in southern provinces "experiencing extreme heat." It did not specify what was hit.

Iranian authorities said at least 50 people have been killed and more than 500 wounded in U.S. strikes in the past three weeks, including eight killed in a strike on a bridge Friday.

Iran and US vie for Strait of Hormuz

Iran effectively closed the strait to shipping traffic after the war started with U.S. and Israeli strikes on Feb. 28. That sent the price of oil soaring and has given Tehran significant leverage in negotiations.

Iran has said the strait must be under its sole control and that vessels should pay fees to Tehran, even though the world for decades has considered it an international waterway. It fired on ships on recent days. Crossings through the strait fell to a three-week low, according to an international shipping tracker.

Trump has resumed threats to target power stations and bridges to try to compel Iran to loosen its hold. The U.S. in the past week reimposed a naval blockade on Iranian ports to halt its shipments of crude oil.

A growing amount of the region's energy is being shipped through pipelines, but not nearly enough to offset the decline in shipping.

Before the war began, the U.S. had been in talks with Iran over its nuclear program. Trump now faces political pressure to end the war and avoid the kind of prolonged Middle East conflict he had campaigned against.




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Trump now faces political pressure to end the war and avoid the kind of prolonged Middle East conflict he had campaigned against.

Yep. We elected Trump who was the guy who said he would keep us out of wars. We are a war weary country.



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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After hearing how decimated Iran's forces are over and over again, WTF?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wor...&bt_ts=1784397910957

US military says 2 troops are dead and 1 is missing after Iran attacks a base in Jordan


Unconfirmed reports that POTUS to CENTCOM to “open the gates of hell” on Iran, per C14


https://x.com/afshineemrani/st.../2078567479610401228

 
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We need to finish this. WW2 tactics are a good model. Destroying everything is the only way.


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