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You guys are saying a sportscaster was crying. Got a name?
 
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Originally posted by Dzozer:
I felt the same way - it was all a show. The commentators and analysts back at the studio were acting ridiculous as others have said.

Also, this is NOT unprecedented - it happened before in the last game of the 1997 season between the Lions and Jets. Reggie Brown - he lost consciousness after a hit and his heart stopped - CPR saved his life.
Down for 17 minutes, then they resumed play.
So it was different last night, it was different in that everyone over-reacted to something that is part of the game. People get hurt and even have to get CPR.
But whatever, NFL is using flags in the pro bowl this year - it won't be long before every NFL game is flag football, and last nights response and attitude over this event will hasten the arrival of flags.

One observation....things have changed (for the worse) in 25 years. There are those that were butt hurt because a team was named the Indians or the Redskins. Much more whiny populace now.


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Kinda hard for me to get all emotional over a dude who voluntarily plays a risky (but not "every play could be his last" risky) game. While making a far better living than the majority of the population and with full access to the best medical care available. Do I want to see him die or even get injured doing this game? Nope. But he chooses this as his profession, so he also chooses its risks. As for all the carrying on by those peripherally involved, a calm professional display is called for. Its football, not a quilting bee. Roll Eyes


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You guys are saying a sportscaster was crying. Got a name?


I don’t know what show the guy was watching or anyone on it, but I’ll go see if I can find a clip.


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When was the last time a NFL player died on the field? Has that ever happened before? CPR and using a defibrillator means death. The player has died, or is in the process of dying, and the gravity of the situation is readily apparent to anyone watching.


An NFL player died on the field a long time ago.

But more recently a European soccer player went into cardiac arrest on the field, was revived with a defibrillator, taken off the field and then 90 minutes later the game resumed. That player lived and is playing again. So it’s definitely possible for men to see a player get seriously injured and continue to play a game and apparently the event doesn’t even guarantee that he will never play again.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/de...-doctor?platform=amp




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Originally posted by parabellum:
You guys are saying a sportscaster was crying. Got a name?


I don’t know what show the guy was watching or anyone on it, but I’ll go see if I can find a clip.


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Originally posted by bubbatime:
When was the last time a NFL player died on the field? Has that ever happened before? CPR and using a defibrillator means death. The player has died, or is in the process of dying, and the gravity of the situation is readily apparent to anyone watching.


An NFL player died on the field a long time ago.

But more recently a European soccer player went into cardiac arrest on the field, was revived with a defibrillator, taken off the field and then 90 minutes later the game resumed. That player lived and is playing again. So it’s definitely possible for men to see a player get seriously injured and continue to play a game and apparently the event doesn’t even guarantee that he will never play again.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/de...-doctor?platform=amp


Hamlin has yet to actually be revived. He is still on life support.

And while it is absolutely possible for these fellas to play it’s just like I tell my boys nearly everyday, just because you can does not mean you should.


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Man, too bad that Bob Costas wasn't sitting at the microphone last night. When it comes to sportscasters, no one is more pretentious, verbose and just outright full of shit as Bob Costas, a man in love with the sound of his own voice. It would have been so great to hear him go off into some hard-to-follow, flowery horse shit philosophy about life.

You haven't completely missed your opportunity to hear from Bob Costas. Big Grin

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I have no problem with the players crying. I have no problem with the game being postponed, or in reality, canceled, because at this point in the season there is no way it can be played.

I do have a problem with the woke mob wanting to cancel Skip Bayless over a tweet asking about the game. Or precluding anyone else from asking that question.

The NFL is multi-billion dollar operation. If the general public does not think that those questions were being asked 5 or 10 minutes into the delay, and are being asked again today, albeit behind closed doors, they are wearing blinders.

Last night's game had serious playoff implications. While the NFL can show concern for Damar Hamlin, they also cannot ignore their business and the issue of canceling the game will have to be addressed.
 
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Chuck Hughes of the Lions dropped dead and they couldn't revive him. He was running from the sidelines to the huddle. It was in the late 1960's
 
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You guys are saying a sportscaster was crying. Got a name?


This isn’t the clip I saw this morning, but here is todays performance by Skip Bayless.




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You guys are saying a sportscaster was crying. Got a name?


This isn’t the clip I saw this morning, but here is todays performance by Skip Bayless.


Skip Bayless is simply trying to get himself out of the way of Pitchfork Media for not being sympathetic enough last night.


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Chuck Hughes of the Lions dropped dead and they couldn't revive him. He was running from the sidelines to the huddle. It was in the late 1960's

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It was Dick Butkus who was nearby, franticly waving over trainers/medial people to get to Hughes.
Game was nearly over with, after Hughes was taken away, one more play was run before the clock ran out.
 
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"Every play might be your last"

There are not enough eyes in the world to roll on this shit of a gem.


At some point people need to be reminded that it's only a game. The importance of the game is very limited. If they feel it's risky, then don't play. Seems simple enough to me.


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You guys are saying a sportscaster was crying. Got a name?


This isn’t the clip I saw this morning, but here is todays performance by Skip Bayless.


Skip Bayless is simply trying to get himself out of the way of Pitchfork Media for not being sympathetic enough last night.


Which is a perfect example of how over the top everyone is acting. I dislike Skip Bayless very much and think he’s one of the dumbest people in sports media. But there was nothing wrong at all with his tweet. He showed sympathy. But god forbid he wonder about the game too.




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Ol' Skip is in serious need of acting lessons.

ESPN, as a whole, is a hole.
 
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Ol' Skip is in serious need of acting lessons.

ESPN, as a whole, is a hole.



Like so many others ESPN went full woke years ago.




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Watch Hockey....

I was at the game when Chris Pronger took a Macinnis slap shot to the chest and dropped the same way. Joe Louis Arena went dead silent. It happens. The ambulance had the fastest trip to receiving they've ever had as fans listening to the game were blocking intersections with their cars.

He'll recover just like Pronger did and go back to playing.

Is it shocking? Yes. Does it stun the crowd and players? Absolutely. I've coached at a fairly high level and seen some game stopper injuries. It shakes everyone. There are discussions between staffs on how to proceed. I don't recall any tears for any of that.




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He'll recover just like Pronger did and go back to playing.

A little premature I'd say. Anoxic brain injury is a real thing and (from what I've heard) he was down for 9 minutes. He could very well be a head of broccoli for his remaining years.


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If you don't play the game, both teams should take it as a loss. That's pretty hard, but a reasonable answer to them leaving the field. Sounds pretty fair.

The early posts here suggest that he "took a pretty good hit". NO, he delivered a pretty good hit, as he was the hitter. No one hit him, he hit the ball carrier. Pretty good, yes. By leaving the field, they forfeited the game. Think for a second, if you will, about the robbed fans. The only way the players get the huge salaries is by putting on a show. The show they got was a bunch of wimps crying.

So lets just estimate that those fans paid, maybe $200 each and lets just guess there were maybe 50,000 of them. Lets just call it a cool million before beer and hotdogs. I wonder if the league or Mike Brown will refund all that? What about parking?


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If you don't play the game, both teams should take it as a loss. That's pretty hard, but a reasonable answer to them leaving the field. Sounds pretty fair.

The early posts here suggest that he "took a pretty good hit". NO, he delivered a pretty good hit, as he was the hitter. No one hit him, he hit the ball carrier. Pretty good, yes. By leaving the field, they forfeited the game. Think for a second, if you will, about the robbed fans. The only way the players get the huge salaries is by putting on a show. The show they got was a bunch of wimps crying.

So lets just estimate that those fans paid, maybe $200 each and lets just guess there were maybe 50,000 of them. Lets just call it a cool million before beer and hotdogs. I wonder if the league or Mike Brown will refund all that? What about parking?


Not sure what play you are watching? Tee Higgins has the ball and is running up the field and he absolutely makes the initial hit/contact with Hamlin. While yes he is ultimately tackled by Hamlin the vast majority of the force is most certainly exerted by Higgins. Not saying he did anything wrong but it was certainly an offensive play.
https://youtube.com/shorts/B68DNF1vPtc?feature=share

So, I was there and not a single person I came in contact with was upset about the game being cancelled. Actually the majority of the complaints I heard were they did not call it sooner. No one was worried about the money they spent on food, concessions, what they paid for parking.
Did not even care I did not get a chance to get my free refill on my souvenir cup. We had Bills fans that drove from Buffalo sitting next to us and they did not care the game was cancelled even though they had driven all that way, paid for a hotel, and had to drive back home the next day with no actual outcome.
Even the folks that were drunk were not bothered that the game was cancelled. We stayed until they made the official announcement at the stadium which was about 25 to 30 minutes after it was called on TV.
Afterward we went to the Clifton Skyline and it was packed and overflowing out the door with Bengals fans that were both at the game and just watched it on TV. No one was upset about the cancellation everyone was just hoping he pulls through.
If they had played the game it would not have been as entertaining. I have been to lots and lots of Bengals games over the years and the Miami game this year was a white out game and it was the loudest most rowdy game I have ever been to. More so than any Browns or Steelers game by far.
The crowd was not the same after Tua went out.
This would have been even harder to really enjoy the game if they had played it. Then if the Bengals won everyone in the twatterverse and all over would have been complaining it was not far because the Bills were so worried about their teammate and if the Bengals lost everyone would have said they were playing soft afraid to play full speed and see another injury.


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If you don't play the game, both teams should take it as a loss. That's pretty hard, but a reasonable answer to them leaving the field. Sounds pretty fair.
The early posts here suggest that he "took a pretty good hit". NO, he delivered a pretty good hit, as he was the hitter. No one hit him, he hit the ball carrier. Pretty good, yes. By leaving the field, they forfeited the game. Think for a second, if you will, about the robbed fans. The only way the players get the huge salaries is by putting on a show. The show they got was a bunch of wimps crying.

So lets just estimate that those fans paid, maybe $200 each and lets just guess there were maybe 50,000 of them. Lets just call it a cool million before beer and hotdogs. I wonder if the league or Mike Brown will refund all that? What about parking?

Regarding the bolded portion, a little strong IMO.

These are for the most part very young men who are just past being “boys”.
Maybe they didn’t know *how* to react to one of their teammates being clinically dead in a Manly Man fashion enough to satisfy some in this thread.
It’s possible many haven’t experienced a full code to someone close in their life. I bet most have living grandparents. You may consider cutting them some slack.


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